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Post by folatre on Jul 10, 2024 18:54:51 GMT -5
In the short-run, I think the guy most impacted by Hutson turning pro is Harris. The reason being that he is smaller than average by NHL d-man standards. And despite Harris having decent skill and instincts, he is not an offensive play driver. Hockey is debatable, but with Hutson in the lineup I just do not see where Harris slots in.
If management wants to acquire another difference-maker up front, then the guy to trade is probably Guhle. Or maybe Matheson plus a secondary piece could fetch something nice. What is Hutson's vaule, how is he perceived by GMs around the league?
If management simply wants to deal with the logjam on the blue line, then I think Harris or Barron could get moved for whatever the best deal is out there.
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Post by seventeen on Jul 10, 2024 19:01:47 GMT -5
There are likely going to be some guys in Laval who deserve to be onn the big club, at least temporarily until Hughes can make some trades. This Is the point where we experience disappointment when some prospects we've come to love, get traded. I can only hope Kent gets the return we deserve.
With the recent move by the KHL to opt out of IIHF, it gives the Habs a better chance at getting Demidov here this coming season. It's basically down to paying SKA some amount in a 'transfer fee' format. I'm hoping the Michkov deal has set some sort of precedence because I thought buying out 3 years of his contract for $1MM was cheap. If it costs Molson no more than $500K to buy out Demidov's contract, that's a slam dunk. The team will get Wayyyy more than that in jersey sales alone.
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Post by seventeen on Jul 10, 2024 19:10:01 GMT -5
I If management wants to acquire another difference-maker up front, then the guy to trade is probably Guhle. Or maybe Matheson plus a secondary piece could fetch something nice. What is Hutson's vaule, how is he perceived by GMs around the league? Just as an fyi, the former Anaheim scout who was on The Sick Podcast, said that Hutson is a potential star. He really liked him. I keep going back to his 2 games against Detroit. Usually, at that time of year, which the NBA would appropriately call 'Garbage Time', prospects are trotted out and they look really good against others who are playing out the string, going at 90% and hoping to avoid injury. That wasn't the case with Hutson. He looked fine, especially in his own end, against a team fighting for a playoff spot, who won 2 tough games, yet still just missed out. There was no playing out the string in those two games. The NHL was brand new to Hutson, up against a decent team and he did not look out of place, registered a point and drove some Red Wing defenders crazy. He may be exactly as advertised, so we should know for sure after about 20 games. He's not an 18 year old and he's used to attention and the big stage. Training camp can't come fast enough, especially if Demidov is there with a Habs contract in hand. Edit. The former scout is Alain Chainey. |
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Post by folatre on Jul 10, 2024 19:41:07 GMT -5
For sure, it would be amazing to get Demidov over here this fall. But whether it is 2024-25 or 2025-26, certainly management feels a lot more bullish about the top six post-draft.
However, the projected future top six could likely benefit from one additional goal scorer so I imagine Hughes is patiently waiting to pounce if a nice opportunity arises.
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Post by Skilly on Jul 11, 2024 8:40:03 GMT -5
Twitterverse is saying that we will be trading a couple of Dman, even if it's just for picks. There is just too much of a log jamb and if we send certain guys down we will likely lose them to free agency and the Habs don't want to give guys away for nothing. Harris and Barron are the two guys who have to go through waivers now. I think Montreal likes Harris a lot more than Barron, so Justin is likely on the way out, but don't expect a good return for him. The closer the season gets, the more I'm going to miss capfriendly I was looking up the Habs roster, and noticed on hockeyreference we now have a goalie named Connor Hughes, and a 21 yr old defenseman named Cameron Whynot. Why not Whynot? What's the scouting report on him? |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jul 11, 2024 9:15:57 GMT -5
Harris and Barron are the two guys who have to go through waivers now. I think Montreal likes Harris a lot more than Barron, so Justin is likely on the way out, but don't expect a good return for him. The closer the season gets, the more I'm going to miss capfriendly I was looking up the Habs roster, and noticed on hockeyreference we now have a goalie named Connor Hughes, and a 21 yr old defenseman named Cameron Whynot. Why not Whynot? What's the scouting report on him? The flames drafted him but did not sign him... |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 20, 2024 20:15:54 GMT -5
So, is the rebuild over now ...
Cheers.
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Post by Cranky on Aug 20, 2024 22:11:01 GMT -5
The rebuild is NEVER over. It's Hughes responsibilty to keep building at 3very opportunity till the end of time. And a day past that...
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Post by habsgoalie27 on Aug 23, 2024 8:57:13 GMT -5
imo ,Hughes is doing a very good job,
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Post by seventeen on Aug 23, 2024 13:35:30 GMT -5
imo ,Hughes is doing a very good job, Many of us agree. Welcome to the site, and be sure to look over our Code of Conduct. Nice to have you here and keep on posting. Cheers. |
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Post by habsgoalie27 on Aug 23, 2024 13:57:20 GMT -5
imo ,Hughes is doing a very good job, Many of us agree. Welcome to the site, and be sure to look over our Code of Conduct. Nice to have you here and keep on posting. Cheers. thank you. I like rule #9. English is my 3rd language , I have been a habs fan since I was 6 years old , I am 61 now lol |
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Post by Cranky on Aug 23, 2024 17:40:20 GMT -5
Many of us agree. Welcome to the site, and be sure to look over our Code of Conduct. Nice to have you here and keep on posting. Cheers. thank you. I like rule #9. English is my 3rd language , I have been a habs fan since I was 6 years old , I am 61 now lol We welcome youngsters...as long as they buy the beers and pizza!  All we care about is your opinion, not your spelling. We've had/have French Canadian posters who could barely write English...and who cares. Welcome to HabsRus. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 23, 2024 18:12:10 GMT -5
So, is the rebuild over now ... Cheers. I would echo the “never” response too. HuGo must always look to maximize his assets. Whether it is draft picks to keep the pipeline flowing or as trade collateral for an established player or two. Cap space will be a growing weapon too as the bad contracts drop off by attrition or trade. With the cap going up, the Habs can actually be free agent buyers soon. And then there is the fact that not all these young promising prospects turn out quite as planned (and a few surprise in a good way). Hughes did mention that he is always looking for ways now to improve the team in the long run when this team is in full compete mode. Finally, Hughes mentions a lot about team architecture and not wanting a team of the same type of players. Gaps can be filled by trade or in free agency, so I expect he will be in constant tweak/improve as long as he is in charge. |
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Post by franko on Aug 23, 2024 18:54:01 GMT -5
thank you. I like rule #9. English is my 3rd language , I have been a habs fan since I was 6 years old , I am 61 now lol We welcome youngsters...as long as they buy the beers and pizza! All we care about is your opinion, not your spelling. We've had/have French Canadian posters who could barely write English...and who cares. Welcome to HabsRus. Heck, some of us English posters have trouble with speling |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 23, 2024 21:08:44 GMT -5
So, is the rebuild over now ... Cheers. I would echo the “never” response too. HuGo must always look to maximize his assets. Whether it is draft picks to keep the pipeline flowing or as trade collateral for an established player or two. Cap space will be a growing weapon too as the bad contracts drop off by attrition or trade. With the cap going up, the Habs can actually be free agent buyers soon. And then there is the fact that not all these young promising prospects turn out quite as planned (and a few surprise in a good way). Hughes did mention that he is always looking for ways now to improve the team in the long run when this team is in full compete mode. Finally, Hughes mentions a lot about team architecture and not wanting a team of the same type of players. Gaps can be filled by trade or in free agency, so I expect he will be in constant tweak/improve as long as he is in charge. I'd like to think the rebuild is over, while the process to improve the team remains ongoing ... I know it's early, but dependent on injuries, I feel the team could be buyers and not sellers come this season's trade deadline ... improving the team - absolutely, only the team doesn't have to be in a constant state of rebuild for that to happen ... just some opinions, mate ... Cheers. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 23, 2024 21:33:34 GMT -5
I would echo the “never” response too. HuGo must always look to maximize his assets. Whether it is draft picks to keep the pipeline flowing or as trade collateral for an established player or two. Cap space will be a growing weapon too as the bad contracts drop off by attrition or trade. With the cap going up, the Habs can actually be free agent buyers soon. And then there is the fact that not all these young promising prospects turn out quite as planned (and a few surprise in a good way). Hughes did mention that he is always looking for ways now to improve the team in the long run when this team is in full compete mode. Finally, Hughes mentions a lot about team architecture and not wanting a team of the same type of players. Gaps can be filled by trade or in free agency, so I expect he will be in constant tweak/improve as long as he is in charge. I'd like to think the rebuild is over, while the process to improve the team remains ongoing ... I know it's early, but dependent on injuries, I feel the team could be buyers and not sellers come this season's trade deadline ... improving the team - absolutely, only the team doesn't have to be in a constant state of rebuild for that to happen ... just some opinions, mate ... Cheers. I think that is why HuGo both refer to it as a “retool”, which implies a continuous improvement mentality rather than a transformation with a fixed starting and ending point. At least we are at a point, as fans, where we finally get the prospect of watching fun hockey again and hopefully meaningful late season games. Both the Habs and Rocket should be better on-ice products this season. |
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Post by Cranky on Aug 23, 2024 23:30:16 GMT -5
We welcome youngsters...as long as they buy the beers and pizza! All we care about is your opinion, not your spelling. We've had/have French Canadian posters who could barely write English...and who cares. Welcome to HabsRus. Heck, some of us English posters have trouble with speling Mehhh...most of my post have edits. I blame the spelling and grammer mistakes on the tablet my wife bought for me. It's taking it's "it was you turn to vacuum" revenge... |
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Post by Cranky on Aug 23, 2024 23:35:03 GMT -5
I would echo the “never” response too. HuGo must always look to maximize his assets. Whether it is draft picks to keep the pipeline flowing or as trade collateral for an established player or two. Cap space will be a growing weapon too as the bad contracts drop off by attrition or trade. With the cap going up, the Habs can actually be free agent buyers soon. And then there is the fact that not all these young promising prospects turn out quite as planned (and a few surprise in a good way). Hughes did mention that he is always looking for ways now to improve the team in the long run when this team is in full compete mode. Finally, Hughes mentions a lot about team architecture and not wanting a team of the same type of players. Gaps can be filled by trade or in free agency, so I expect he will be in constant tweak/improve as long as he is in charge. I'd like to think the rebuild is over, while the process to improve the team remains ongoing ... I know it's early, but dependent on injuries, I feel the team could be buyers and not sellers come this season's trade deadline ... improving the team - absolutely, only the team doesn't have to be in a constant state of rebuild for that to happen ... just some opinions, mate ... Cheers. I don't think Hughes would be in buyers mentality even if we are mediocre and threaten to get into the playoffs. And I would agree with that. Even if we make it in, I love to think we would be Cinderellas but I doubt it. Besides if we got that far, it would be a collective effort and no addition would be major enough to change our trajectory. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 24, 2024 8:27:13 GMT -5
When biznasty says he never gave a Saperlipopette about Montreal but now he loves what's going on you know HuMarGo are doing things right... he also is impressed by how quickly they are turning things around, as compared to the Sens and Sabres... he was pretty expressive in his podcast
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Post by seventeen on Aug 24, 2024 16:18:04 GMT -5
He couldn't have been very observant if he is just now recognizing what's going on. It was evident early on that Gorton and Hughes knew what they were doing. Moving Weber's contract was smart, using his CAP space to sign Monahan was smart, the drafting was good, the organization building was systematic and positive. A lot of things were happening that weren't adding up to points on the board, but were setting the foundation. Many of us saw that happening. Bill Armstrong in Utah is doing a very good job despite the previous challenges in Phoenix of the arena, ownership etc. Mike Grier has done a good job, even Pat Verbeek is improving the Ducks, but not very many people are recognizing that these teams are the ones that will be dominating the standings in a few years. Too much is judged by "what have you given me lately".
Another under appreciated situation is in Washington. Brian McLellan has managed to keep the Capitals 'afloat' despite aging stars, some of whom are so injured they're more or less done. I keep waiting for the Caps to fall apart and be a bottom 5 team and somehow they keep being relevant, if not actual real contenders. Compare them to Pittsburgh, who should have achieved more. It has to be due to management.
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Post by folatre on Aug 24, 2024 19:19:49 GMT -5
With the additions of their blueline, Washington certainly looks stronger than last season, though relative to really good teams I am not sure having an aging Carlson, Roy, and Chychrun as 3/4 of the top and second pair is super solid.
Up front I like the Mangiapane acquisition and a couple other depth pieces seemed astute, but they desperately need a highly productive top six center, so it all comes down whether one is a believer in Dubois.
I think McLellan got super aggressive because Leonis wants Ovechkin's run to the record to take place on a team good enough to fight for the playoffs and he probably looked in the mirror and realized that the Capitals harvested somewhat more points than the analytics and the eye test suggested they should have. So I think their management was wise to get aggressive since rebuilding was never an option while Ovechkin is making history. However, I think Washington is not a playoff lock.
Honestly, I am not sure the Capitals and the Islanders are better than whoever is running fifth place in the Atlantic. Time will say.
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Post by seventeen on Aug 24, 2024 23:05:29 GMT -5
Agree
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