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Post by seventeen on Oct 2, 2024 16:13:25 GMT -5
Grieg calling anyone dirty is hypocritical. He waits until Dach is off balance and unsuspecting after beating another player and then attacks. That's cowardice.
On Marinaro's show, both he and Pierre McGuire think Xhekaj should have a chat with Chris Nilan. They both agreed that Arber needs to get smarter about how to handle such situations and Nilan and a guy like John Ferguson always knew how to deal with opponents. They clearly weren't listening to themselves. If there were ever two H-bombs waiting to be ignited, it was Nilan and Fergie. They didn't wait, they attacked with abandon. What's different IMO is that the officiating, if it's possible, has gotten worse over the years. I think a large part is the 2 ref system where if one guy isn't sure he waits for the other guy to make the call. Reffing by committee and I have a low opinion of committees. You should not miss a hit anywhere near the head that drops the player to the ice where he is immobile. How can you review Arber's hit and Grieg's hit and not come to the same conclusion? Either way. Be consistent. If you're. not, you'll lose control of the game, which they did. Same thing in the Leaf game. This is all on NHL head office since if the refs are instructed properly, they should understand how to call the game. They are, instead, asked to 'manage' the game so one team doesn't beat the other by too much. Keep the score close. That's a guaranteed way to tick off the players and the fans. Sigh.
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Post by Cranky on Oct 2, 2024 17:17:22 GMT -5
Greig has the nerve to call the hit on Stutzle dirty, what a D-bag. Looks like the Diving Stutz, tkajerk and Chabot got injured in the game, tkajerk has an upper body injury when Arber drove him to the ice. Love it Just getting hurt is not good enough, I want them to FEAR stepping on the ice. This is why I'm not giving MSL or the rest of the big guys a pass. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 2, 2024 18:16:45 GMT -5
The reason why the refs keep kicking him out of games, is that they are not doing their jobs properly. If they made the right calls in both games he wouldn't have taken it upon himself to seek justice. When the league hands out discipline they should be looking at the refs asking themselves themselves what they could have done to prevent vigilantly justice from taking place. You can't always put the blame on players for taking justice when the refs ignore the rules. I should have read your post first ... the overall standard of officiating is unpredictable ... the referees have to determine a standard for that game, and then stick to it ... otherwise the players get confused and, things tend to get ugly quickly, as the officials eventually lose control of the game ... Cheers. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 3, 2024 12:16:40 GMT -5
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Post by Cranky on Oct 4, 2024 15:48:40 GMT -5
Nilen is substantially younger then me and he looks like he's starting to "think" his sentences.
I wish i could tell X bros how important it is to minimize shots in the head. At 23 they are invincible, at 73 they will wonder why they can't string a sentence together.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 4, 2024 19:56:37 GMT -5
I have to work to not get distracted when I have a goal in mind. Do what I intended, then go back to what distracted me, if I can remember what that was. You young’uns still have that to look forward to. If you get distracted, it takes a minute to remember what it was you planned to do originally.
I played a lot of soccer but rarely went up for a header unless it was uncontested and even then not often. Why bother?
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 4, 2024 23:00:03 GMT -5
I have to work to not get distracted when I have a goal in mind. Do what I intended, then go back to what distracted me, if I can remember what that was. You young’uns still have that to look forward to. If you get distracted, it takes a minute to remember what it was you planned to do originally. I played a lot of soccer but rarely went up for a header unless it was uncontested and even then not often. Why bother? 17, that's why you are still able to post such sound views!  Keep 'er going! |
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Post by Cranky on Oct 5, 2024 12:36:06 GMT -5
I hate soccer...
I was 13 in Greece and headered a wet soccer ball. Not the newer ones with the shiny skin but the older ones with suede skin.
Might as well headered a bowling ball...
I also learned that applying a little ole hockey hip check on a soccer player can cause death and reincarnation within the span of a minute.
Did i mention i hate soccer?
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Post by seventeen on Oct 5, 2024 19:02:35 GMT -5
I hate soccer... I was 13 in Greece and headered a wet soccer ball. Not the newer ones with the shiny skin but the older ones with suede skin. Might as well headered a bowling ball... I also learned that applying a little ole hockey hip check on a soccer player can cause death and reincarnation within the span of a minute. Did i mention i hate soccer? It’s a beautiful game and Christ, do you have to be in shape to last. I’m still in awe how some of those midfielders do it, moving for 90 minutes, stopping, sprinting, jogging, going side to side, battling for control etc. Hockey and soccer are similar in many ways but Hockey requires more pure strength and soccer more stamina. Great games, both. Where was I? Oh yeah, I grew up with those untreated leather balls, Cranky. The hide was still rough on them and when it rained, they soaked up all the water and became medicine balls. How the hell did medicine balls get that name? There’s nothing medicinal about them. Did I mention I get easily distracted? |
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Post by Cranky on Oct 5, 2024 21:48:41 GMT -5
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 5, 2024 23:43:11 GMT -5
Chapeau!
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Post by seventeen on Oct 6, 2024 1:58:16 GMT -5
The whole point of all these shenanigans is to let the rest of the league know to just play hockey vs the Habs.
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Post by Cranky on Oct 6, 2024 2:32:19 GMT -5
I'm not sure what to make of X comment.
Was it a bravado comment or a genuine mentality that he's the "protector" of the flock?
Nobody will ever confuse me for a pacifist but if I was his coach, I would calm him down from his self appointed warrior protector mentality. I would also look at getting someone like Olivier to take away some of the pressure of having to "defend" his flock.
X best serves the team by becoming a better defenseman, particularly honing his canon to give us a top notch pp...if MSL can actually figure out how to use him there.
It's going to be an interesting season...
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 6, 2024 8:54:12 GMT -5
Sens fans are losing it and Arpon Basu posts this
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Post by folatre on Oct 6, 2024 9:22:23 GMT -5
Regarding Xhekaj, last night he was one of the few Habs that played ice hockey like an NHLer. He was physical, which is important because he cannot allow the refs to plant doubt in his mind. He fought a heavyweight (this isn't the 80s or 90s, so I judge most hockey observers put McEwen in that category) and came out on top; moreover McEwen did not have much of a presence out there afterwards. And he blistered a shot that deflected past Ullmark for a goal. This version of Xhekaj is mainstay in the lineup and would certainly not be rotating in and out of the lineup.
Montreal needs more size and team toughness, absolutely. I have been among the fans here saying that for a long time (probably started a thread under that heading). So yes I see the logic of getting a guy like Olivier. I am not sure why Columbus would want to get rid of him; after all, they also have skilled kids that need protecting. Basically I think he is just a name that surfaced (i.e. totally unsubstantiated rumor) because of all the mayhem Montreal has faced in the preseason. It is not as easy as one might think to find an enforcer who can play hockey in today's NHL. For instance, if given the choice between Pezzetta or McEwen, I would just stick with Pezzetta because at least he can wreck havoc on the forecheck.
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 6, 2024 9:40:27 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Oct 6, 2024 10:27:03 GMT -5
Sens fans are losing it and Arpon Basu posts this Because when they play Montreal and maybe even the Leafs they dont have anyone who can matchup when it comes to toughness. Even Dach beatup Grieg. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 6, 2024 14:19:03 GMT -5
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Post by Cranky on Oct 10, 2024 20:46:23 GMT -5
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Post by drkcloud on Oct 11, 2024 21:13:16 GMT -5
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Post by Cranky on Oct 13, 2024 13:24:30 GMT -5
Notice something odd in the last 3 games?
Nobody has targetted CC or Hutson.
I wonder why....
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 13, 2024 14:16:36 GMT -5
Notice something odd in the last 3 games? Nobody has targetted CC or Hutson. I wonder why.... There's a new Sheriff in town |
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Post by seventeen on Oct 13, 2024 14:31:49 GMT -5
Notice something odd in the last 3 games? Nobody has targetted CC or Hutson. I wonder why.... I've seen a few guys try to finish their checks on Hutson and he evades them. They're still trying to hit him with 'normal' clean checks, but he's had a lifetime of making those miss. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 13, 2024 17:02:09 GMT -5
Notice something odd in the last 3 games? Nobody has targetted CC or Hutson. I wonder why.... I've seen a few guys try to finish their checks on Hutson and he evades them. They're still trying to hit him with 'normal' clean checks, but he's had a lifetime of making those miss. He made tkajerk miss him last night |
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 14, 2024 0:37:50 GMT -5
I've seen a few guys try to finish their checks on Hutson and he evades them. They're still trying to hit him with 'normal' clean checks, but he's had a lifetime of making those miss. He made tkajerk miss him last night Resulted in a goal! How do Sens players feel when their"leader" is shown up, and then acts like a jerk? O' Captain. O' Captain. |
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Post by seventeen on Oct 14, 2024 13:38:15 GMT -5
I saw a stat on Twitter, but can't recall the poster to imbed it here, but Hutson was third in the NHL in either expected goals against per 60 or actual goals against behind Nolan Allan and Olen Zellweger (why do I keep wanting to call him Renee') both of whom have played only one game compared to 20+ minutes per game for Hutson. That's Goals Against!, which means his defensive weakness has been greatly overstated. Another stat which popped up, was his possession time in the offensive zone, per game. He's first in the entire league, McDavid was 4th or fifth and the other guys behind Hutson were all stars. I had expectations for Hutson, but he's exceeding those easily.
What I really love (and my glass is 3/4 full) is that there were so many criticisms that the Habs were lacking a #1 defenseman. In fact, we might have 2. Hutson is proving that not only is he exceptional offensively with 4 points in 3 games, but that he's not a liability in the least on defense. Guhle is proving that he's an exceptional shut down guy, but is good offensively when given the chance (he's a ppg player in a small sample so far).
I haven't even touched on the other guy who has further improved, the re-incarnation of Dikembe Matumbo, Sam.
If we can just get the defensive structure together (it was better against Ottawa, but can improve), HuGo may have something here.
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Post by Cranky on Oct 14, 2024 14:38:41 GMT -5
Some of you and stats would of loved JC Tremblay...but he wasn't our best DEFENSEMAN no matter how many times he made other teams forwards look like kiddies.
I like defenseman that hurt you physically and on the score board. Hello Robinson, Lapointe and Chelios...or Hedman and Dahlin...
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 14, 2024 17:15:32 GMT -5
If they can maintain stats like this they'll make the playoffs Attachments:
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Keep 'er going!
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