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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 1, 2024 16:28:58 GMT -5
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Post by Cranky on Oct 1, 2024 16:50:33 GMT -5
Because I'm a dumb fan and nowhere near the brilliance of MSL...
"During Carbonneau’s two full seasons as head coach the Canadiens had the best power play in the NHL. They ranked first during the 2006-07 season with a 22.8 per cent success rate and were first again in 2007-08 at 24.1 per cent. The Canadiens scored 86 power-play goals in 2006-07, led by Sheldon Souray with 19, and had 90 power-play goals in 2007-08, led by Alex Kovalev with 17."
Both of those years they had Markov quarterbacking and...Kovalev or Souray shooting. Souray was a brick when it came to vision but he had one of the hardest shots in the league and SUPRISE....he scored 19. Kovalev had a hard wrist shot from the top of the circle.
What we have NOW is a lot of perimeter and weak outside shooters. The hardest shots we have are X, followed by Mailman followed by Guhle. I have yet to see X on the power play or Mailman in the exhibition games. Same old BS from the same old players doing the same old thing run by the same old coach.
It's getting frustrating that it's so clear that PP after PP teams keep us to the outside and we keep trying to score from high angles or from unleashing powder puff shots from the top of the circle that even peewee goalies laugh at.
Even Einstein commented on our powerplay....Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former but I know Habs coaching the power play defines the later.
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Post by Skilly on Oct 1, 2024 22:12:10 GMT -5
Carbonneau also has only made the playoff once in his coaching career at any level. That 2007-08 season, on the back of Alex Kovalev.
He was fired the next year when MTL were about to miss the playoffs. With a new coach, the team snuck into the playoffs.
The players on those teams did not like Carbonneau. Now, players don't need to like coaches, but the head coach can't be looking over his shoulder either.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 2, 2024 0:02:37 GMT -5
Carbonneau also has only made the playoff once in his coaching career at any level. That 2007-08 season, on the back of Alex Kovalev. He was fired the next year when MTL were about to miss the playoffs. With a new coach, the team snuck into the playoffs. The players on those teams did not like Carbonneau. Now, players don't need to like coaches, but the head coach can't be looking over his shoulder either. Those teams were not the best and Carbonneau may have softened in time. He's still a really smart hockey guy. MSL needs someone, unless he's playing possum, or rope a dope, where he is deliberately tanking the preseason PP's while (behind the scenes, in a CIA hockey rink), they're practising the REAL power play which will be unveiled in the first game of the season. Which is it? A real concern of mine is that it's been 2 1/2 years now with Marty at the helm and we still haven't seen evidence of good defensive structure, PK structure or a power play strategy. As Cranky points out in his crankiness, you need a quarterback (Markov/Not Matheson) and you need a shooter (Souray/Xhekaj?). In today's modern, technical game, you have to get the goalie moving, so quick puck movement, especially side by side through the Royal Road, is important. Why are we not doing that? Having said the above, we haven't seen much of what we expect our #1 PP to look like. The top line with who? And for God's sake, please don't put Matheson on it.
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Post by Polarice on Oct 2, 2024 5:22:01 GMT -5
The most effective powerplays Montreal had are were when we had a cannon on the blue line....weber and Souray come to mind. I would be interested to see how Wifi would look on the PP firing cannons from the blue line.
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Post by Skilly on Oct 2, 2024 5:44:27 GMT -5
Carbonneau also has only made the playoff once in his coaching career at any level. That 2007-08 season, on the back of Alex Kovalev. He was fired the next year when MTL were about to miss the playoffs. With a new coach, the team snuck into the playoffs. The players on those teams did not like Carbonneau. Now, players don't need to like coaches, but the head coach can't be looking over his shoulder either. Those teams were not the best and Carbonneau may have softened in time. He's still a really smart hockey guy. MSL needs someone, unless he's playing possum, or rope a dope, where he is deliberately tanking the preseason PP's while (behind the scenes, in a CIA hockey rink), they're practising the REAL power play which will be unveiled in the first game of the season. Which is it? A real concern of mine is that it's been 2 1/2 years now with Marty at the helm and we still haven't seen evidence of good defensive structure, PK structure or a power play strategy. As Cranky points out in his crankiness, you need a quarterback (Markov/Not Matheson) and you need a shooter (Souray/Xhekaj?). In today's modern, technical game, you have to get the goalie moving, so quick puck movement, especially side by side through the Royal Road, is important. Why are we not doing that? Having said the above, we haven't seen much of what we expect our #1 PP to look like. The top line with who? And for God's sake, please don't put Matheson on it. So you are advocating for 2 defensemen on the power play? That's not a critique, but a real question. Because to have puck movement you need all the players on the PP to be mobile. In the days of yore, our d-men with bombs were stationary. Just waiting to tee it up, and it became very easy to defend. If Mailloux makes the team, I'd actually like them to go back to the two defensemen model myself. We have the defense for two nice PP units, but we don't have the forwards, so it makes sense to have Dach/Laine on PP 2. Now, I'm going to get very creative here. Guess which power plays work best? It's a rather novel concept that that MTL has not discovered. The best PPs are the ones that shoot. Imagine that. MTL is too busy passing trying to get the pretty goal. Even in practice they are doing it. Next game, count how many shooting opportunities on the PP they give up. It's high. Believe me, I've counted
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Post by Polarice on Oct 2, 2024 6:41:30 GMT -5
Those teams were not the best and Carbonneau may have softened in time. He's still a really smart hockey guy. MSL needs someone, unless he's playing possum, or rope a dope, where he is deliberately tanking the preseason PP's while (behind the scenes, in a CIA hockey rink), they're practising the REAL power play which will be unveiled in the first game of the season. Which is it? A real concern of mine is that it's been 2 1/2 years now with Marty at the helm and we still haven't seen evidence of good defensive structure, PK structure or a power play strategy. As Cranky points out in his crankiness, you need a quarterback (Markov/Not Matheson) and you need a shooter (Souray/Xhekaj?). In today's modern, technical game, you have to get the goalie moving, so quick puck movement, especially side by side through the Royal Road, is important. Why are we not doing that? Having said the above, we haven't seen much of what we expect our #1 PP to look like. The top line with who? And for God's sake, please don't put Matheson on it. So you are advocating for 2 defensemen on the power play? That's not a critique, but a real question. Because to have puck movement you need all the players on the PP to be mobile. In the days of yore, our d-men with bombs were stationary. Just waiting to tee it up, and it became very easy to defend. If Mailloux makes the team, I'd actually like them to go back to the two defensemen model myself. We have the defense for two nice PP units, but we don't have the forwards, so it makes sense to have Dach/Laine on PP 2. Now, I'm going to get very creative here. Guess which power plays work best? It's a rather novel concept that that MTL has not discovered. The best PPs are the ones that shoot. Imagine that. MTL is too busy passing trying to get the pretty goal. Even in practice they are doing it. Next game, count how many shooting opportunities on the PP they give up. It's high. Believe me, I've counted Not sure if that's what Cranky is advocating for, but that's what I am saying we need to do!! A least for the 1st power play unit. Have Hutson or Matherson with Wifi, you have your cannon on the point and the a puck moving dman setting people up. When Wifi is open, let him blast it and if it doesn't go in, play for the rebound. If he's covered, pass to the open forward, it's not rocket science, keep it simple.
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Post by Cranky on Oct 2, 2024 11:46:36 GMT -5
I NEVER said the canon should be stationary. It's essential that defenseman move so to make guessing where the canon will fire. Also not all opposing players want to stand in front of a canon. THAT is the reason many freeze, mostly out of the way.
What i am saying is there MUST be a mobile quarterback, a canon and players that are willing to stay near or in front of the goalie. What i am saying that you need to change this stupid, wasteful, worthless one trick pony of passing around until you make the opposition dizzy. NONE of our current pp has a bomb that can beat the goalie so they depend on getting him out of position, which is NOT working.
What really pisses me off is how obvious the solution is and how worthless our coach is in seeing the obvious and implementing change. He's got a set of players that are NOT going to change because that is their only ability...and they are playing with what they are comfortable with.
What I'm also saying that at this point, the failure rests with the coach and if he can't fix it or management brings people in to fix it they need to be changed.
BTW...X and Mailman and Guhle have canons with varying degree of control. Both power plays can practice with canons in the lineup.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 2, 2024 12:57:51 GMT -5
Those teams were not the best and Carbonneau may have softened in time. He's still a really smart hockey guy. MSL needs someone, unless he's playing possum, or rope a dope, where he is deliberately tanking the preseason PP's while (behind the scenes, in a CIA hockey rink), they're practising the REAL power play which will be unveiled in the first game of the season. Which is it? A real concern of mine is that it's been 2 1/2 years now with Marty at the helm and we still haven't seen evidence of good defensive structure, PK structure or a power play strategy. As Cranky points out in his crankiness, you need a quarterback (Markov/Not Matheson) and you need a shooter (Souray/Xhekaj?). In today's modern, technical game, you have to get the goalie moving, so quick puck movement, especially side by side through the Royal Road, is important. Why are we not doing that? Having said the above, we haven't seen much of what we expect our #1 PP to look like. The top line with who? And for God's sake, please don't put Matheson on it. So you are advocating for 2 defensemen on the power play? That's not a critique, but a real question. Because to have puck movement you need all the players on the PP to be mobile. In the days of yore, our d-men with bombs were stationary. Just waiting to tee it up, and it became very easy to defend. If Mailloux makes the team, I'd actually like them to go back to the two defensemen model myself. We have the defense for two nice PP units, but we don't have the forwards, so it makes sense to have Dach/Laine on PP 2. I wasn't necessarily suggesting the PP should have 2 dmen on it. I'm not even sure that definition applies when one of those guys is Hutson. If he had full authority to go wherever, he'd be a real pain to penalty killers. He is completely unpredictable and unafraid to take on players, and get them out of position thereby breaking down the box. It could work with him and a hard shot D on the back. Because of the whittling down process, we haven't really seen our regular line-up. What will the PP look like when all regulars are dressed? There's more than enough talent for an explosive Power play. Marty has to find the right mix. My one caveat is that Matheson should not be on either. He doesn't handle the puck well enough, he doesn't pass it well enough and he doesn't. have a great shot. With all that in mind, why is he on the PP?
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 2, 2024 13:04:55 GMT -5
So you are advocating for 2 defensemen on the power play? That's not a critique, but a real question. Because to have puck movement you need all the players on the PP to be mobile. In the days of yore, our d-men with bombs were stationary. Just waiting to tee it up, and it became very easy to defend. If Mailloux makes the team, I'd actually like them to go back to the two defensemen model myself. We have the defense for two nice PP units, but we don't have the forwards, so it makes sense to have Dach/Laine on PP 2. I wasn't necessarily suggesting the PP should have 2 dmen on it. I'm not even sure that definition applies when one of those guys is Hutson. If he had full authority to go wherever, he'd be a real pain to penalty killers. He is completely unpredictable and unafraid to take on players, and get them out of position thereby breaking down the box. It could work with him and a hard shot D on the back. Because of the whittling down process, we haven't really seen our regular line-up. What will the PP look like when all regulars are dressed? There's more than enough talent for an explosive Power play. Marty has to find the right mix. My one caveat is that Matheson should not be on either. He doesn't handle the puck well enough, he doesn't pass it well enough and he doesn't. have a great shot. With all that in mind, why is he on the PP? If Hutson is on the pp, then you need guys with high IQ on it because even his own teammates don't know what he's going to do... that means Slaf, Suze, Dach, Roy, demidov when he gets here are the guys he should be on the pp with. Edit: I forgot to include Laine
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Post by Cranky on Oct 2, 2024 13:24:55 GMT -5
BTW...I watched every video I could on Laine...
Laine has a shot that can beat a goalie from the top of the circle, much like Kovalev and of course he's gone for half a season.
The problem with Hutson is that he can't be a one man show dancing on the outside. The puck travels faster then him so his main purpose is to draw defenders out of position for the canon or the tight in shot, not play catch-me-if-you-can. Scenarios like Hutson drawing his left side forward to the right while Mailman skates to the left and gets open for a one timer. That's were Mailman needs an IQ to see if his left forward has a better shot. That's a split second decision based on how far forward the goalie has moved to meet the canon. By definition, the harder the shot, the more forward a goalie moves to cover the net, which of course opens his vulnerability to a bottom of the circle sniper.
There is nothing here that is rocket science and bleeding edge. Hockey is does not defy the rules of physics or common sense, but seems to defy our PP and coaches.
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 2, 2024 13:37:18 GMT -5
They don't even have someone in front of the net, put Pez or Arber in front and have them look at the goalie and do the chicken dance ffs... I don't care, just take away the goalies eyes... it's pretty simple.
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Post by Skilly on Oct 3, 2024 15:31:27 GMT -5
So you are advocating for 2 defensemen on the power play? That's not a critique, but a real question. Because to have puck movement you need all the players on the PP to be mobile. In the days of yore, our d-men with bombs were stationary. Just waiting to tee it up, and it became very easy to defend. If Mailloux makes the team, I'd actually like them to go back to the two defensemen model myself. We have the defense for two nice PP units, but we don't have the forwards, so it makes sense to have Dach/Laine on PP 2. I wasn't necessarily suggesting the PP should have 2 dmen on it. I'm not even sure that definition applies when one of those guys is Hutson. If he had full authority to go wherever, he'd be a real pain to penalty killers. He is completely unpredictable and unafraid to take on players, and get them out of position thereby breaking down the box. It could work with him and a hard shot D on the back. Because of the whittling down process, we haven't really seen our regular line-up. What will the PP look like when all regulars are dressed? There's more than enough talent for an explosive Power play. Marty has to find the right mix. My one caveat is that Matheson should not be on either. He doesn't handle the puck well enough, he doesn't pass it well enough and he doesn't. have a great shot. With all that in mind, why is he on the PP? Because he had the second most Pp points on the team last year. He had 28, Suzuki had 31
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Post by folatre on Oct 3, 2024 19:49:28 GMT -5
Matheson was on the ice for a lot of short handed goals, which is an issue, but that was not entirely on him. On the subject of productivity, yes, he was productive so St. Louis is at least going to give him some runway (10 games?) in the regular season before demoting him.
My overall issue with the power play is that it has no identity. It looks like they shy away from insisting on their signature 'moves' (Caufield one-timer in his office, Suzuki wheeling in from the right half wall and sniping glove side high) because they assume the opponent has the cheat sheet and those are now lower probability options, when in reality they are still the bullets in the chamber worth firing. In other words, I see the boys overthinking things, trying to break tendencies, yet the problem with that approach is the puck starts to die on sticks and everything moves to slow.
If the opponents want to spread out their diamond horizontally to take away both Caufield's one-timer and Suzuki's wrister from the dot, then Montreal has to be decisive in using well placed point shots more often where the shooter is in sync with the bumper guy and the low guy so that essentially both of them shift to one side of the net and bracket (front and back) either the LHD or RHD.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 3, 2024 23:24:25 GMT -5
I wasn't necessarily suggesting the PP should have 2 dmen on it. I'm not even sure that definition applies when one of those guys is Hutson. If he had full authority to go wherever, he'd be a real pain to penalty killers. He is completely unpredictable and unafraid to take on players, and get them out of position thereby breaking down the box. It could work with him and a hard shot D on the back. Because of the whittling down process, we haven't really seen our regular line-up. What will the PP look like when all regulars are dressed? There's more than enough talent for an explosive Power play. Marty has to find the right mix. My one caveat is that Matheson should not be on either. He doesn't handle the puck well enough, he doesn't pass it well enough and he doesn't. have a great shot. With all that in mind, why is he on the PP? Because he had the second most Pp points on the team last year. He had 28, Suzuki had 31 I could get 20 PP points passing the puck to Caufield or Suzuki or Slaf.
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Post by Cranky on Oct 4, 2024 1:51:03 GMT -5
I repeat my self because at my age, I forget what I repeated....
You MUST draw the goalie out of the net and the only thing that draws a goalie that far out is a canon from the point.
Simply put, no goalie in existence can play deep in their net from a point shot canon. Half his overall net is exposed. Even a blind man that can fire 108mph shot is going to score half the time. At a minmum, he MUST come out to the top of his crease increase his angle coverage of the net. His hope that even if he can't react to the shot, the shot will hit him.
Simple math....108 mph is 158ft per second. To cover 40 ft it takes .25 seconds. It's at the edge of human reaction time...now add the time for the movement to take place.
So the goalie comes out to the top of his crease to deal with the canon, now he just exposed his side.
THAT above was also the reason why we had league leading power play when he had Souray over 100mph canon and blistering Kovalev semi slap shot or wrist shot. The only one on the Habs that has that kind of wrist shot is...Laine. And of course the three defenseman with their canons.
The last guy that we had with a canon was Weber and...are they so stupid to forget that Weber use to fake about a quarter of his shots and pass to the man 5-10ft from the net, 3-4feet forward of the goal line to take advantage of the goalies coverage dilemma? It was only 5 years ago. They even had a name for it...shot-pass.
Why is it so hard for MSL and players to see the obvious? Why do the insist on same sick and tiring pass-till-you-lose-the-puck mentality?
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 4, 2024 5:26:13 GMT -5
I repeat my self because at my age, I forget what I repeated.... You MUST draw the goalie out of the net and the only thing that draws a goalie that far out is a canon from the point. Simply put, no goalie in existence can play deep in their net from a point shot canon. Half his overall net is exposed. Even a blind man that can fire 108mph shot is going to score half the time. At a minmum, he MUST come out to the top of his crease increase his angle coverage of the net. His hope that even if he can't react to the shot, the shot will hit him. Simple math....108 mph is 158ft per second. To cover 40 ft it takes .25 seconds. It's at the edge of human reaction time...now add the time for the movement to take place. So the goalie comes out to the top of his crease to deal with the canon, now he just exposed his side. THAT above was also the reason why we had league leading power play when he had Souray over 100mph canon and blistering Kovalev semi slap shot or wrist shot. The only one on the Habs that has that kind of wrist shot is...Laine. And of course the three defenseman with their canons. The last guy that we had with a canon was Weber and...are they so stupid to forget that Weber use to fake about a quarter of his shots and pass to the man 5-10ft from the net, 3-4feet forward of the goal line to take advantage of the goalies coverage dilemma? It was only 5 years ago. They even had a name for it...shot-pass. Why is it so hard for MSL and players to see the obvious? Why do the insist on same sick and tiring pass-till-you-lose-the-puck mentality? They are indecisive with the puck, they play the PP scared 😱 all the time
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Post by Skilly on Oct 4, 2024 8:43:50 GMT -5
Because he had the second most Pp points on the team last year. He had 28, Suzuki had 31 I could get 20 PP points passing the puck to Caufield or Suzuki or Slaf. Then I guess you should go find your skates and contact MSL, cause only 3 players on MTL got 20 PP points. Why doesn’t everyone on the PP have more than 20 if you only have to pass it to Caufield or Slafkovsky?
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 4, 2024 9:38:12 GMT -5
I repeat my self because at my age, I forget what I repeated.... You MUST draw the goalie out of the net and the only thing that draws a goalie that far out is a canon from the point. Simply put, no goalie in existence can play deep in their net from a point shot canon. Half his overall net is exposed. Even a blind man that can fire 108mph shot is going to score half the time. At a minmum, he MUST come out to the top of his crease increase his angle coverage of the net. His hope that even if he can't react to the shot, the shot will hit him. Simple math....108 mph is 158ft per second. To cover 40 ft it takes .25 seconds. It's at the edge of human reaction time...now add the time for the movement to take place. So the goalie comes out to the top of his crease to deal with the canon, now he just exposed his side. THAT above was also the reason why we had league leading power play when he had Souray over 100mph canon and blistering Kovalev semi slap shot or wrist shot. The only one on the Habs that has that kind of wrist shot is...Laine. And of course the three defenseman with their canons. The last guy that we had with a canon was Weber and...are they so stupid to forget that Weber use to fake about a quarter of his shots and pass to the man 5-10ft from the net, 3-4feet forward of the goal line to take advantage of the goalies coverage dilemma? It was only 5 years ago. They even had a name for it...shot-pass. Why is it so hard for MSL and players to see the obvious? Why do the insist on same sick and tiring pass-till-you-lose-the-puck mentality? I move we appoint Albert Crankeinstien as coach of PP. All PP players will have rulers marked out on their sticks so there is nothing but precision in execution.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 4, 2024 11:50:11 GMT -5
I could get 20 PP points passing the puck to Caufield or Suzuki or Slaf. Then I guess you should go find your skates and contact MSL, cause only 3 players on MTL got 20 PP points. Why doesn’t everyone on the PP have more than 20 if you only have to pass it to Caufield or Slafkovsky? I was being facetious, Skilly. What my eyes tell me is that he fumbles the puck, he's not a great passer so there isn't consistency at putting the puck in an optimum place for the shooter and he doesn't have the puck skills to utilize his great skating ability. You'd think he should be able to fake one way, or change speed or something to move a defender, but no, the box keeps its shape. I recall saying last year that he got points after the guy he passed to made a great play. He also had a ton of minutes, which probably hurt his puck handling. I don't see him as an offensive machine and most of his career he hasn't been. Either Marty unlocked something or it's an outlier year and a half. My eyes tell me the latter. Especially when you have an option like Hutson.
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Post by Cranky on Oct 4, 2024 12:12:23 GMT -5
I move we appoint Albert Crankeinstien as coach of PP. All PP players will have rulers marked out on their sticks so there is nothing but precision in execution. Einstanopoulos, Albert Einstanopoulos...many people get the spelling wrong... Don't worry, they put Hutson on the powerplay in practice. That should put the fear of God into goalies with his 85mph shot. Or maybe make the goalie dizzy watching from 60 ft away. I'm going to put up the point prediction thread after tomorrows game. Let's see how optimistic/pessimistic people are about this team.
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Post by Cranky on Oct 4, 2024 12:19:08 GMT -5
Then I guess you should go find your skates and contact MSL, cause only 3 players on MTL got 20 PP points. Why doesn’t everyone on the PP have more than 20 if you only have to pass it to Caufield or Slafkovsky? I was being facetious, Skilly. What my eyes tell me is that he fumbles the puck, he's not a great passer so there isn't consistency at putting the puck in an optimum place for the shooter and he doesn't have the puck skills to utilize his great skating ability. You'd think he should be able to fake one way, or change speed or something to move a defender, but no, the box keeps its shape. I recall saying last year that he got points after the guy he passed to made a great play. He also had a ton of minutes, which probably hurt his puck handling. I don't see him as an offensive machine and most of his career he hasn't been. Either Marty unlocked something or it's an outlier year and a half. My eyes tell me the latter. Especially when you have an option like Hutson. Putting Hutson instead of Matheson without changing the way they structure and execute is not going to give us much. The worse possible thing that can happen now is a few pp goals and that will cement the "great change" MSL is looking for. A goal or 2 after 0-20 is amazing...like a starving person given rat soup. It's delicious...
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Post by seventeen on Oct 4, 2024 15:45:17 GMT -5
a strong possibility is that Hutson's constant motion and movement around the zone will force the others to change positions as well. That may resolve the stagnancy issue.
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Post by Cranky on Oct 4, 2024 16:00:35 GMT -5
I bet it wont. They will play Hutson man on man up high.
Perimeter is still perimeter and wont do a damn thing to pull the goalies to the top of his crease and open his back.
Where it would be HUGE is if he was swapping sides with a canon. Then the goalie would be forced to play high AND move side to side. On top of that, once the golie plays at the top of his crease, one of our none existent brave forwards can start tickling...err...screen him and play a bit of footsie. That's were Slaf says his prayers then parks his butt in front of the net. Double bonus points if the defenseman decides to dance with him.
This isn't some exotic strategy. I've seen this a million times over 6 decades plus as I'm sure all of you have.
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 7, 2024 18:02:20 GMT -5
Matheson still on PP1... Hutson PP2
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Post by Skilly on Oct 7, 2024 18:32:06 GMT -5
PP2 looks really fugly
They need to balance those lines somehow ... maybe Dach and Slaf on the second unit
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Post by Cranky on Oct 7, 2024 18:37:08 GMT -5
The second PP unit has to be the worse, ABSOLUTE WORST pp unit in the NHL.
I can feel SHOULD MSL BE FIRED poll coming in the new year.
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 7, 2024 19:17:26 GMT -5
Sick of having 4 forwards on the pp
Pp1:Matheson Suze Cole Armia X
Armia front of the net X on the right with the Canon
Pp2:hutson newhook slaf dach guhle
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Post by Cranky on Oct 7, 2024 19:23:15 GMT -5
True story...when I was 13 in Greece
My cafe commie uncle had a donkey that refused to take instructions or change his path. My aunt would ride that donkey to the orchards every day.
When the neighbor sold his property to the sanitation department, they closed that path. To reach the orchard you had to take a different route. Apparently the donkey has built in GPS because it refused to take the new path. My aunt would have to get off the donkey and pull it to the new path. If you are not familiar with donkeys, they are pretty dangerous, they kick and bite without warning. Pulling hard on their reigns is asking to be donkeyed.
One day, my uncle had enough and shot the donkey by the river.
Moral of the story? Don't be a stubborn donkey.
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 8, 2024 12:30:40 GMT -5
True story...when I was 13 in Greece My cafe commie uncle had a donkey that refused to take instructions or change his path. My aunt would ride that donkey to the orchards every day. When the neighbor sold his property to the sanitation department, they closed that path. To reach the orchard you had to take a different route. Apparently the donkey has built in GPS because it refused to take the new path. My aunt would have to get off the donkey and pull it to the new path. If you are not familiar with donkeys, they are pretty dangerous, they kick and bite without warning. Pulling hard on their reigns is asking to be donkeyed. One day, my uncle had enough and shot the donkey by the river. Moral of the story? Don't be a stubborn donkey. Lol
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