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Post by seventeen on Oct 10, 2024 20:31:45 GMT -5
Dach looks lazy to me tonight Dach looked fatigued yesterday. Not in game shape yet, understandably. It’s no surprise he’s even more tired today. |
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Post by Skilly on Oct 10, 2024 20:33:05 GMT -5
Holy crap, they can complete easy 3 feet passes ... trying to skate it out of the zone is death when you are not quick
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Post by jkr on Oct 10, 2024 20:34:07 GMT -5
Dach looks lazy to me tonight I like Dach and Suzuki but there are nights where they look like they are going through the motions. It concerns me because if the captain looks like that , how does that affect the team. |
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Post by Skilly on Oct 10, 2024 20:35:03 GMT -5
Dach looks lazy to me tonight Dach looked fatigued yesterday. Not in game shape yet, understandably. It’s no surprise he’s even more tired today. So why does he get a pass? He just went through the same training camp as everyone else. And everyone else last played a meaningful game in March, so the whole team wouldn't be in game shape |
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Post by Skilly on Oct 10, 2024 20:37:04 GMT -5
Dach looks lazy to me tonight I like Dach and Suzuki but there are nights where they look like they are going through the motions. It concerns me because if the captain looks like that , how does that affect the team. It is concerning how Suzuki always has slow starts. When he finally shows up to start a season this team might be good. |
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Post by Skilly on Oct 10, 2024 20:39:11 GMT -5
How the heck is that not holding or interference on Guhle by Brazeau?? He grabbed his shoulder and pulled him to the ice without the puck
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 10, 2024 20:46:17 GMT -5
A slug like kastelic get 2 goals tonight... wtf
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Post by Skilly on Oct 10, 2024 20:46:49 GMT -5
Puck goes to Gallagher all alone in front and he whiffs , then Evans gets it back to him later in the shift and he scores 5-4
Then 17 secs later Primeau is weak on the play and it's banked in off him ... 6-4
🙄🙄
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Post by Skilly on Oct 10, 2024 20:47:45 GMT -5
A slug like kastelic get 2 goals tonight... wtf A slug like Gallagher gets two goals tonight ... WTF ... 🤣😝 |
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 10, 2024 20:48:29 GMT -5
A slug like kastelic get 2 goals tonight... wtf A slug like Gallagher gets two goals tonight ... WTF ... 🤣😝 Lol... |
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Post by Skilly on Oct 10, 2024 20:48:35 GMT -5
Boston gets a penalty for intentionally flipping the puck over the glass in the offensive zone ... never saw that before
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Post by Skilly on Oct 10, 2024 20:49:36 GMT -5
Dach, weak on the puck, ruins the PP set up ... again
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Post by Skilly on Oct 10, 2024 20:50:42 GMT -5
Dach doesn't even look like he is trying ... holy crap. He looks like what we feared, when we acquired him. Drouin part deux
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Post by seventeen on Oct 10, 2024 20:51:32 GMT -5
Dach looked fatigued yesterday. Not in game shape yet, understandably. It’s no surprise he’s even more tired today. So why does he get a pass? He just went through the same training camp as everyone else. And everyone else last played a meaningful game in March, so the whole team wouldn't be in game shape Not replying to this. BTW, I’ve had a few drinks. |
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Post by Skilly on Oct 10, 2024 20:53:52 GMT -5
MTL played terribly, but the good news is, with average goaltending and a few less mistakes (or extra effort , I'm looking at you Dach) they could have won this
Last 15 against Boston we are now 0-14-1
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Post by jkr on Oct 10, 2024 20:55:32 GMT -5
Boston gets a penalty for intentionally flipping the puck over the glass in the offensive zone ... never saw that before Didn't even know it was a penalty. |
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Post by Skilly on Oct 10, 2024 20:57:11 GMT -5
Boston gets a penalty for intentionally flipping the puck over the glass in the offensive zone ... never saw that before Didn't even know it was a penalty. If you have the puck in the O zone why would you shoot it over the glass? Line change? 🤷♂️ The Bruin was all alone in MTL's zone. Just real weird sequence |
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Post by seventeen on Oct 10, 2024 21:03:17 GMT -5
The fact we let a piece of crap like Kastelic get 2 goals says it all to me.
As an aside despite the fact I’m a big Xhekaj fan he was -3 tonight and if Struble is healthy, I’m swapping them. Jayden is a much better player. One of Boston’s goals started because Arber let some guy get around him on the wing and crash the net. Seconds later, Boston scores.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 10, 2024 21:20:26 GMT -5
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Post by Cranky on Oct 10, 2024 22:34:26 GMT -5
Watching the game and talking to myself...
1st period..
Primeau...2nd and 3rd goal were stopable.
Booing cycling the puck and we are a full step behind.
Booing shooting from the point and someone in front of the net, while we try to fancy our way in to every goal. Really stupid because Guhle and X have canons.
Hutson...3 blind passes to a ghost. Slap shot very weak.
2nd period.
Humiliating physical dominations
Primeau...4th goal deep in the net and in his knees...peewee...5th goal soft on the corner. So far, we have a ECHL goalie in net.
3rd period
Hutson...HUGE problem on the power play. He plays high and has a weak shot. He simply will never shoot hard enough from where he likes to dance.
Primeau...are you kidding me? It wasn't bad enough that he let in weak goals, he scores in his own net. Worse goaltending performance I have seen in a long while.
Dach...he's not the dominating Dach of last year before he was hurt.
MSL...is he dense or incompetent? Guhle shot is responsible for 2 goals and he doesn't put him out there on the 6 on 4. He's getting closer to getting replaced.
This was a terrible game where the Booins outmatched us physically even though they are not that much bigger then us. The hit us into the boards, we pushed them.
This is the second game where we were outplayed.
So far, not very good showings. About the only bright spot in this game was...RDS not blocking me out.
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 11, 2024 0:29:35 GMT -5
Only hope is these guys had a down game whther because B2B, or still euphoric from win over Leafs. Otherwise these guys are awful on so many level:
1) coaching for sure; absolutely nom structure in our own end as the opposition just skates and passes around with ease getting one good chance after another. the PP as bad as we all feared. the PK equally bad just watching the ooponetn throw it around.
2) only dman worth watching are Guhle and Hutson. Maths is a joke. I';m going to start counting how many possessions he kills, particularly on the PP; and man he was rag dolled a few times tonight. Barron's running out of time to show he a NHLer.
3) When Gally and Josh are your 2 best forwards, the others got to look in the mirror. I remeber last year going on about Nick's disppearing act for numerous games at a time - looks like that is his MO. Cole's got the shot but otherwise neutralized pretty easily. Dach had better be rusty cause he's been a dud so far.
4) Primeau is just bad. At least 3 bad goals and I don't recall one good save. He's on the clock and then waivers if he doesn't turn things around.
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 11, 2024 1:20:55 GMT -5
I said after the TO game that Hutson will be on the 1st PP unit by the 10 game mark. Tonight was first sign that Marty is coming around when he had Hutson on as extra man when we pulled Primeau. It's only a matter of time.
(I pushed edit instead of quote and mistakenly edited this post. Sorry about that. Signed...ButterFingers)
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Post by Cranky on Oct 11, 2024 3:25:31 GMT -5
I said after the TO game that Hutson will be on the 1st PP unit by the 10 game mark. Tonight was first sign that Marty is coming around when he had Hutson on as extra man when we pulled Primeau. It's only a matter of time. I'm not sure about that. He has a weak point shot. Not that Matheson has a canon, but far better then Hutson. What is driving me mad is that MSL is completely blind to using the point shot as a weapon. Even 5 on 3, he still won't put Guhle on the point. I bet that he wouldn't put Weber on the point either. He's not adapting. He is running the PP like he played it. Meaning pass, pass, pass, look for the open man. The only question is...does Hughes recognize MSL shortcomings? If he doesn't, this team is going NOWHERE. |
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Post by Cranky on Oct 11, 2024 3:43:21 GMT -5
AND...NO BLACKOUT ON RDS!!!! I wasn't sure I won't get blacked out but now I know for sure. In case your wondering, for $5 I get the French Sports package with 4 channels and all the Habs games. I'm with Robbers. You may also get it with other providers. So for the first time in 5 years, I'll get ALL the Habs games. Sadly, it was available for a long time but hidden deep in their line-up. Why sell you a $5 package when they can screw you for $250 for Center Ice. EDIT...I think I also get AHL games. I had that 6-7 years ago when I was with Rogers. I'm surprised it's still so cheap. I use to get RDS by itself when they had all the games and that was $3, if I remember correctly. This French package is not advertised or easily found. In 3 tries, the first guy had to search for it for 1/2 hr. The second guy knew about it because he was a Habs fan and finally, when I wanted to get the package, the 3rd guy had to search AGAIN for 1/2 hour for it. |
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Post by Cranky on Oct 11, 2024 4:13:17 GMT -5
This won't go over well in the halls of Quebec, but I've been concerned for well over a year over the lack of structure in our team. We spend way too much time in our end because there seems to be little definition as to being in certain lanes, move the puck here and then there, etc. This hurts our attack because we lose the puck a lot and it stays in our zone, without the other team having to work to create those possessions. We just hand it to them. The other issue is covering opponents in our end. The other team has possession for too long, gets into dangerous positions too often and does so, again, without having to work hard to create those opportunities. This is coaching. Period. If you have a a good goaltending performance, it hides these weaknesses, but they are consistently there. I have raised questions about MSL in the past, but this feeling has really strengthened. Players have gotten better individually, so he's doing some things well, but he desperately needs to put in something more definite that the players can follow. In the offensive zone, they can create to their heart's content, but in our zone, structure and discipline is needed. This has to be made apparent to Marty and there can be no objection. It was obvious last night, but Monty bailed us out. Primeau isn't bailing us out today (and Monty wouldn't either if he had to face those same shots), and the holes are evident. I am not impressed. The emperor has no clothes, but the other guys aren't wearing any either. Hughes was an agent, not a GM. Can Hughes recognize MSL shortcomings? And the solution? In my world, when I worked as a manufacturing manager for a large corporation, nobody had my knowledge so nobody could tell me what I was doing was right or wrong. Who in the Habs organization is qualified as a senior coach with decades of experience? Unless you are expecting MSL assistants to risk their job and critisize their boss. |
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Post by jkr on Oct 11, 2024 8:05:13 GMT -5
Despite all the errors and shortcomings we have listed there was some positives. They cam back from 3 goals down and were trailing by just one with less than 5 minutes to go. And if we are noticing Gallagher and Anderson in a good way that is a positive thing.
In each of their games goaltending was the key. Montembauilt stole game one, Primeau gave away game 2. They had a shot at winning with just average netminding.
As I said earlier, I don't understand why he is still in the picture. Is it because he is waiver eligible and could be lost for nothing? I know goalies take a long time to develop but he was drafted 7 years ago. He is now 25 and still making critical, fundamental errors. That 6th goal was a classic case of letting your team down. I hope Montembault is capapble of playing 50-60 games.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Oct 11, 2024 9:16:54 GMT -5
Many of us said last year that Marty needs an professional, experienced assistant to help him with the X's and O's on the defensive side. Some like a Jacques Martin or a guy with head coach experience but isn't a threat to Marty.
Instead we've hade ex-players. Alex Burrows had no coaching experience. Trevor Letowski coached in in the OHL but Stephane Robidas hasn't coached at all.
Defense way more than offense is about structure and attention to detail. I don't fault Marty if he doesn't have the chops to coach up the defensive side of the game, but it's really on HuGo to get him the help he needs. I'd even be interested in Guy Boucher (is he working in the NHL?), but he may not be a good fit.
Claude Julien was named assistant head coach in St. Louis this year. He would have been ideal, but probably not interested in coming back after being fired here.
I still believe Marty is the right coach for this team and where it's going. I think he's a good leader and the players respect him. But he's never coached in the NHL before and he needs someone to fill in the gaps on defense. How is HuGo not getting that?
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Post by jkr on Oct 11, 2024 9:31:41 GMT -5
The other question is how is St. Louis not getting that he needs this help on the defensive side?
Does he not want to ask? Does he think there is nothing wrong ?
The issues - PP, D zone structure aren't new but they never seem to improve.
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 11, 2024 10:01:02 GMT -5
I said after the TO game that Hutson will be on the 1st PP unit by the 10 game mark. Tonight was first sign that Marty is coming around when he had Hutson on as extra man when we pulled Primeau. It's only a matter of time. I'm not sure about that. He has a weak point shot. Not that Matheson has a canon, but far better then Hutson. What is driving me mad is that MSL is completely blind to using the point shot as a weapon. Even 5 on 3, he still won't put Guhle on the point. I bet that he wouldn't put Weber on the point either. He's not adapting. He is running the PP like he played it. Meaning pass, pass, pass, look for the open man. The only question is...does Hughes recognize MSL shortcomings? If he doesn't, this team is going NOWHERE. It doesn't have to be a Hutson for Maths switch altho that in itself would improve our PP. Ideally would be to have a another damn with Hutson on the point. One with a great shot who can also help when opponents get puck on rush which will happen on turnovers. Guhle or X with Hutson would be fine with me. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Oct 11, 2024 10:02:14 GMT -5
I agree about the coaching. It isn't all on Marty's shoulders. I don't think his assistants are anything to write home about. I would replace Robidas with a Luke Richardson type coach.
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