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Post by HFTO on Mar 3, 2004 13:16:55 GMT -5
We might as well get greedy now!Could we get him without losing Zed?
Lookat the top two lines if its possible..
Kovalev Koivu Zednick
O'Neill Ribs Ryder
Supers size and skill and now you have two top notch lines.Try and get a D man and this team is way way better.
Thoughts is it possible?
HFTO
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Post by Boston_Habs on Mar 3, 2004 13:28:59 GMT -5
It's fun to speculate. Adding O'Neill would be nice, but I doubt we could do it without giving up anyone off the current roster or a top level prospect. Gainey dipped into the well once to get Kovalev and I doubt we will do it again to get O'Neill.
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Post by AH on Mar 3, 2004 15:05:43 GMT -5
Please ... we don't need any more dung on the team. We have gotten rid of quite a few since last off-season, while Perreault and Kilger are not too far behind.
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Post by Forum Ghost on Mar 3, 2004 17:20:20 GMT -5
Please ... we don't need any more dung on the team. We have gotten rid of quite a few since last off-season, while Perreault and Kilger are not too far behind. Why are you so opposed to acquiring Jeff O'Neill? Do you know something about him that we don't? |
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Post by snap on Mar 3, 2004 17:45:11 GMT -5
Yea, I love O'Neil, plus he can play C and is a right handed shot...perfect! He can crash, bang and score. Half decent power forward, not premier but decent. Zed is good, but not that good.
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Post by Skilly on Mar 3, 2004 21:33:26 GMT -5
O'Neill for Hainsey and a draft pick straight up! Is that Doable. Can we afford Kovalev, Saku, Theo, and O'Neill. The answer is yes if we can get Perreault, Kilger, Juneau, and Brisebois traded. It would be hard to buy them out .... Brisebois is playing good now so maybe he has value ..... but to steal a line from someone ....... At four million I expect more from him.  |
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Post by Marvin on Mar 3, 2004 22:04:51 GMT -5
Interestingly enough, I was listening to the Flames' pre-game show on the radio tonight, and Cassie Campbell was remarking about what a good pick-up O'Neill would be for the Flames or any other team. Apparently she went to school with him in Guelph and she said he's a "great guy with a lot of talent, who's just having an off-year."
Marvin
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Post by legaspesien on Mar 4, 2004 9:31:32 GMT -5
In le journal de Montréal this morning think it's from Pedneault Saying that Carolina wanted Higgins in an O'neil deal
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Post by Gogie on Mar 4, 2004 12:30:24 GMT -5
If there's one untouchable in the Habs' system, trust me, it's Higgins. I've been watching him in Hamilton all year. He has tremondous skill and I have no doubt he'll develop into a top notch 1st or 2nd line forward in the not too distant future. He's still adjusting to the professional game, but once he does, look out!
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Post by Patty Roy on Mar 4, 2004 12:34:14 GMT -5
In le journal de Montréal this morning think it's from Pedneault Saying that Carolina wanted Higgins in an O'neil deal Was listening to the TEAM990 on the internet at work this morning and their morning host also said that the Canes asked for Higgins in return for O'Neill. |
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Post by AH on Mar 4, 2004 13:01:18 GMT -5
O'Neill is a stiff ... The guy makes $4 Million, has 11 goals this year, and is atrocious defensively. CJ is gonna be pulling his hair out with this guy. Not to mention the guy is a known cancer, plus his attitude SUCKS ... I am sure all you have hears what he had to say about Team Canada for the World Cup. He says that if he is not invited among the first 8, Team Canada should not bother calling him later on. Sure Jeff, Team Canada will really miss you and your 11 goals.  |
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Post by Rimmer on Mar 4, 2004 13:14:24 GMT -5
Not to mention the guy is a known cancer, plus his attitude SUCKS I'm sorry, AH, but I have never read anything about him being a cancer. as a matter of fact, I read an interview where Maurice (after he got fired) said how he was misusing O'Neill and that he was also to blame for his low production. I'm not saying that it means anything, but I would assume that he wouldn't be taking part of the blame for a player who is a "known cancer". R. |
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Post by AH on Mar 4, 2004 13:44:04 GMT -5
Well I guess you don't follow the Canes. I am telling you the guy is a headcase.
You can put up with his personality faults if he produces on the ice. But he doesn't do that either. He is supposed to be a PF, but there is remotely nothing powerful about his game.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Mar 4, 2004 15:32:37 GMT -5
Assuming O'Neill isn't a headcase, I would deal Hossa and a 1st for O'Neill. Not interested in giving up primo guys like Higgins and Zhogin, and it's way too early to give up on Ron Hainsey - besides our prospect depth on the blueline is dangerously weak once you get past Komi and Hainsey.
Next year is rumored to be a pretty thin draft and we are not short on prospects, so giving up the 1st may not be a big deal. By now the top brass has had a good, long look at Hossa and has formed an opinion about his upside. I believe O'Neill is still under contract for another couple of years so it's not like he can just walk away like Kovalev.
You plug O'Neill into the mix and all of a sudden we have 2 very dangerous lines:
Kovalev/Koivu/O'Neill
Zednik/Ribeiro/Ryder
Me likes.
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Post by AH on Mar 4, 2004 18:01:47 GMT -5
Assuming O'Neill isn't a headcase, I would deal Hossa and a 1st for O'Neill. But he is a headcase. And I wouldn't even deal Dagenais for him. If he can be had for a 4th rounder, then fine, but anything more is overpaying IMO. |
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Post by seventeen on Mar 5, 2004 1:54:10 GMT -5
Next year is rumored to be a pretty thin draft. I thought it was this year that was thin. Next year too? Not counting Crosby, of course. |
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Post by Boston_Habs on Mar 5, 2004 10:06:15 GMT -5
I thought it was this year that was thin. Next year too? Not counting Crosby, of course. I meant the 2004 draft, which is this year's draft. My mistake. The package to acquire guys like Lang, Gonchar, and Leetch have all included a 1st round pick. Maybe O'Neill isn't in that class but I would still deal a 1st rather than part with Higgins or Perezhogin. |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Mar 8, 2004 12:18:05 GMT -5
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Post by blaise on Mar 8, 2004 12:30:51 GMT -5
We don't know whether it's a Bégin type injury or a Kovalev type injury. Bégin started the season unable to play and he eventually had to be treated surgically. Kovalev seems to require just rest and physiotherapy. |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Mar 8, 2004 12:37:38 GMT -5
What we do know is that it does devalue O'Neill on the market.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 8, 2004 12:44:21 GMT -5
What we do know is that it does devalue O'Neill on the market. The comment about possible surgery this season could value him at zero between now and tomorrow at 3 pm. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Mar 8, 2004 12:58:26 GMT -5
Any trades for him will have to be washed by a thorough medical... His coach said that O'Neil shoulders problem is chronic... not too reassuring...
...Suddenly I am a whole lot less interested...
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Post by HFTO on Mar 8, 2004 13:15:38 GMT -5
That was confirmed out for the year is the likely scenario.
HFTO
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Post by legaspesien on Mar 8, 2004 14:44:29 GMT -5
O'Neill won't be traded
TSN.ca Staff
3/8/2004
Jeff O'Neill's shoulder injury will prevent the Carolina Hurricanes from dealing him at the deadline, TSN has learned.
O'Neill suffered a shoulder injury in the third period of the Hurricanes loss to New Jersey over the weekend. Sources say the injury is serious enough that he will be sidelined "indefinitely".
A decision on whether or not to undergo surgery or simply allow time to heal the injury will be made in the next 48 hours.
O'Neill, who has spent his entire NHL career with Hartford/Carolina, has been the subject of intense trade speculation leading up to Tuesday's deadline. He has just 14 goals and 34 points in 67 games this season, his lowest point total in four years.
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Post by gazou78 on Mar 8, 2004 15:44:45 GMT -5
I'm so happy he won't be traded, acquiring him would have been a huge mistake and bad for the chemistry...this guy whines all the time and the demands were too high from Carolina for the type of season he's having(maybe it's because of his chronic shoulder problems ) |
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