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Post by MPLABBE on Jul 15, 2003 10:32:15 GMT -5
After almost going home...he signs with Carolina.
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jul 15, 2003 10:39:52 GMT -5
Danny Markov leaves Canes to play in Russia  |
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Post by Habit on Jul 15, 2003 10:40:40 GMT -5
Let the rumors begin!!
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Post by MPLABBE on Jul 15, 2003 10:43:24 GMT -5
Danny Markov leaves Canes to play in Russia wouldn't Andrei have signed a deal with a Russian team by now if those were his intentions? |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jul 15, 2003 11:00:24 GMT -5
wouldn't Andrei have signed a deal with a Russian team by now if those were his intentions? I don't know. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jul 15, 2003 11:08:35 GMT -5
Who's Andrei agent ?
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Post by The Habitual Fan on Jul 15, 2003 11:12:55 GMT -5
This could be the beginning of a trend over the next few years as the NHL brings salaries down and European clubs can match the offers.
It may mean more players going home to play and teams focusing on acquiring more North American veteran players.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2003 11:17:18 GMT -5
Geez, and they gave up a draft pick to the Coyotes for him. Pierre McGuire was even criticizing the Coyotes' management for doing such a thing, but I guess it looks like Phoenix wins that deal.
What about Andrei? He's not leaving, too, is he? The two Markovs aren't related, though.
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Post by MPLABBE on Jul 15, 2003 11:23:49 GMT -5
Meehan(like almost every Hab...  ) Geez, and they gave up a draft pick to the Coyotes for him. Pierre McGuire was even criticizing the Coyotes' management for doing such a thing, but I guess it looks like Phoenix wins that deal. What about Andrei? He's not leaving, too, is he? The two Markovs aren't related, though. actually, the canes gave up Tanabe(good young offensive D) and Knyazev(excellent D prospect for him). This deal is a disaster for them right now imo. no, the 2 markov's are not related. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2003 11:30:10 GMT -5
actually, the canes gave up Tanabe(good young offensive D) and Knyazev(excellent D prospect for him). This deal is a disaster for them right now imo. Oh, that's right. Yikes. |
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Post by Habit on Jul 15, 2003 11:51:09 GMT -5
Be interesting to see what the League does in this situation. 2nd round pick in 2004?
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Post by Montrealer on Jul 15, 2003 12:13:28 GMT -5
Hmph... Maybe they'll go after Brisebois in desperation after all, especially if it's a deal that doesn't cost them any talent (a mid-level draft pick in '04, we pick up some salary).
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Post by PTH on Jul 15, 2003 12:19:49 GMT -5
Be interesting to see what the League does in this situation. 2nd round pick in 2004? Nope. It's the teams problem. |
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Post by Rimmer on Jul 15, 2003 12:34:45 GMT -5
no, the 2 markov's are not related. are you sure? I found this: "For the second consecutive season Daniil's brother led the Russian League in scoring among defenseman..." sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/features/2000/preview/canadiens/and also this: "Andrei Markov is one of the highest touted prospects on defence in the NHL right now. He has tremendous skill and will surely be an impact player in the CTCHL. He has both great offensive talent and is also great defensively with a great shot and good crisp passes. He is the younger brother of Toronto Maple Leafs great defenseman Daniil Markov." www.angelfire.com/sports/AtlantaCTCHL/AndreiMarkov.htmlalthough I really doubt about the credibility of this second site as it has Andrei playing for the Thrashers.  could this have anything to with that famous deal for Kovalchuk? actually, I always thought the two were relatives but not brothers. and another thing: they were born in different cities. anyone have any other info on this? R. |
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Post by MPLABBE on Jul 15, 2003 12:41:30 GMT -5
I am 99.99% sure they are not brothers..like you said both were born in different cities(Danny in Moscow, Andrei in Voskresensk) and both look nothing and I mean nothing alike. |
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Post by Rimmer on Jul 15, 2003 12:51:46 GMT -5
That's exactly why I was surprised to find those links. I was actually trying to find confirmation that they are related but I couldn't find practically anything on the subject except that. one would expect that such info, if true, would be easy to find.
ah, well, I'll take your word for it although I'm still not totally convinced they aren't somehow related.
R.
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Post by MPLABBE on Jul 15, 2003 13:01:50 GMT -5
They may be cousins...I would guess Markov is a common family name in Russia?
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Post by GoMtl on Jul 15, 2003 14:17:44 GMT -5
This is good news for us, I can already see a Brisebois deal on the horizon (I wish).
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Post by Montrealer on Jul 15, 2003 14:52:58 GMT -5
They may be cousins...I would guess Markov is a common family name in Russia? Federov - 159,000 links in a google search. Markov - 682,000 links in a google search. Gorbachev - 214,000 links in a google search. Komisarek - 9,650 links in a google search. I'd say it's pretty common, especially when you actually go looking at the links. For one thing, it appears that there have been some pretty famous people in Russian history with the name Markov. So assuming they're cousins or related because they have the same name is probably not realistic... |
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Post by MPLABBE on Jul 15, 2003 14:55:14 GMT -5
Federov - 159,000 links in a google search. Markov - 682,000 links in a google search. Gorbachev - 214,000 links in a google search. Komisarek - 9,650 links in a google search. uh, why is Komisarek there? his name is polish... |
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Post by AH on Jul 15, 2003 15:00:44 GMT -5
That's 2 consecutive 2-for-nothing trades the Canes have made.
Malik and Langdon for Druken and Hlavac (both let go at end of season)
Tanabe and Knyazev for Markov (going to play in Russia).
I believe that as that as long as Markov does not play a game for his Russina team, he can come back to the NHL, regardless if he signed a contract or not (sam as K. Rachunek last year).
but still ... OUCH !!!
Rutherford is a depth killer - I still can't figure out how this fool has been able to hold onto his job for so many years. We always wonder about Milbury, but what about this guy ?
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Post by Montrealer on Jul 15, 2003 15:08:25 GMT -5
uh, why is Komisarek there? his name is polish... I should have been more specific - it was just an example of a rare family name (I wasn't using it as a Russian example at all) That was really unclear though. Sorry! |
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Post by MPLABBE on Jul 15, 2003 15:10:18 GMT -5
I should have been more specific - it was just an example of a rare family name (I wasn't using it as a Russian example at all) That was really unclear though. Sorry! I see... no prob.. |
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Post by Andrew on Jul 15, 2003 15:50:44 GMT -5
and also this: "Andrei Markov is one of the highest touted prospects on defence in the NHL right now. He has tremendous skill and will surely be an impact player in the CTCHL. He has both great offensive talent and is also great defensively with a great shot and good crisp passes. He is the younger brother of Toronto Maple Leafs great defenseman Daniil Markov." www.angelfire.com/sports/AtlantaCTCHL/AndreiMarkov.htmlalthough I really doubt about the credibility of this second site as it has Andrei playing for the Thrashers. could this have anything to with that famous deal for Kovalchuk? anyone have any other info on this? R. Yeah, I'm pretty sceptical about that second source as well. Any site hosted on Angelfire has zero credibility as a news source as far as I'm concerned. |
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Post by AH on Jul 15, 2003 15:59:42 GMT -5
I think they are talking about the Kaberles
One plays for teh Thrashers and the other for the Leaves
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jul 15, 2003 16:34:22 GMT -5
but still ... OUCH !!! Rutherford is a depth killer - I still can't figure out how this fool has been able to hold onto his job for so many years. We always wonder about Milbury, but what about this guy ? This is why a Stanley Cup finalist ends up finishing last overall, the very next year. If it wasn't for all of Pittsburgh's 2002-03 fire sale/salary dumping deals, they would be a lock for the 2004 draft lottery. It's not like they can afford to make mistakes money wise either, their fan support is really quite bad. Overall, not exactly a model franchise. |
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Post by PTH on Jul 15, 2003 18:06:36 GMT -5
I should have been more specific - it was just an example of a rare family name (I wasn't using it as a Russian example at all) That was really unclear though. Sorry! Of course, to be an adequate sample of names, they should all be of similar origin (if we want to know if a name is rare in Russia or not we should compare Russian names - unless you want to add the differences in population and in internet access between Poland and Russia as variables, when taking Komo's name), we should take account of variances in translating between alphabets (ie, search for Fedorov and also Fyodorov).... and I'm certainyl forgetting several other complications. Good, clean Russian names would be best :-) |
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Post by Montrealer on Jul 15, 2003 18:56:59 GMT -5
Of course, to be an adequate sample of names, they should all be of similar origin (if we want to know if a name is rare in Russia or not we should compare Russian names - unless you want to add the differences in population and in internet access between Poland and Russia as variables, when taking Komo's name), we should take account of variances in translating between alphabets (ie, search for Fedorov and also Fyodorov).... and I'm certainyl forgetting several other complications. Good, clean Russian names would be best :-) See what I get for trying (and failing) to be all scientific on this board while at work when it's busy? ;D |
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Post by seventeen on Jul 15, 2003 22:18:21 GMT -5
Hmph... Maybe they'll go after Brisebois in desperation after all, especially if it's a deal that doesn't cost them any talent (a mid-level draft pick in '04, we pick up some salary). True, no chance of Brisebois running off to Russia to play hockey there. Paris maybe, but not Moscow. |
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Post by MPLABBE on Aug 12, 2003 11:01:58 GMT -5
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could this have anything to with that famous deal for Kovalchuk?
