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Post by Cranky on Aug 29, 2003 22:48:38 GMT -5
Bwahahahah...heheheheheh...hahahahahahah
Sorry guys, I just fell off my chair laughing.
I just saw John Furgeson Jr. named General Manager of the Mighty Laffs. In the interview Johnny Junior said "I am the General Manager, yes I am, believe me, I am, the General Manager, really, ask Pat Quinn. Yes, I am. Why don't you guys believe me? Please belive me."
My oh my, how far down the barrel did the Laffs have to scrape dig to get this one? Really? Did they actually hire him or did the stork bring him? Did they check him for diapper rash? Did they clean Juniors ears out with a Q-Tip so he could hear his orders from Quinnn better?
We get Gainey and they get Junior.
Back to laughing....bwahahahahahahaha
(I'll send this to the not-Hab's board after we have a good laugh.)
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Post by rtravale on Aug 29, 2003 22:58:38 GMT -5
Hey, he's older than Gord Stellack was *snicker*  |
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Post by MPLABBE on Aug 29, 2003 23:03:54 GMT -5
I don't think Fergie Jr will be that bad for them. He has the credentials.
But the media will have a field day and that is always fun ;D
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Post by seventeen on Aug 29, 2003 23:43:53 GMT -5
Poor Johnny has several strikes agaiinst him. Though he actually has worked his way up to a position he might deserve, it shouldn't be in TO, with the management team they have in place. I believe he's simply a sacrificial lamb, because there's still too much power mongering and control freaking going on. A new, rookie GM invariably makes mistakes (see reference sources under Andre Savard and Craig Button) even when they have ability. In the cesspool, er centre of the universe, the confessional and automatic forgiveness follow the Heisenberg principle...the more you need to know their location, the harder it is to find. And then there's the Mighty Quinn. Peering over Johnny's shoulder, wistfully sighing that his new GM just can't seem to conjure up a Sakic for Corson deal and that if only he would, all would be well in Leafland. Why would JF Jr want that job? Become a GM in Columbus for a while...get your feet wet, and wait for the bomb in TO to go off first before you become radioactively contaminated.
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Post by PTH on Aug 30, 2003 2:42:31 GMT -5
If I were Ferguson, my first decision would be to fire Pat Quinn as soon as a reasonable opportunity presents itself... then again, does he really have the authority to do so ?
Since when are subordinates given a major say in the choice of their future boss ?
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Aug 30, 2003 6:12:49 GMT -5
Since when are subordinates given a major say in the choice of their future boss ? Ever since the President (Dryden) was powerless to change the GM (Quinn).  |
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Post by Cranky on Aug 30, 2003 7:55:23 GMT -5
Idon't care how much experience the guy has, he has proven nothing as a GM. As far as I know, he was just negotiating contracts. Besides, do you think that anyone can run that zoo if they are not a proven and powerful GM? Gainey would not take ANY bull from Mr. Quinn. Junior will be tossed around like a ballon in a tornado.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2003 8:14:32 GMT -5
Can you say "puppet"? It looked like a freakin' funeral at the press conference (yes, I actually watched some of it).
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Post by legaspesien on Aug 30, 2003 8:24:32 GMT -5
John Ferguson Left Wing
Born Jul 7 1969 -- Winnipeg, MAN
Height 6.00 -- Weight 200 -- Shoots L
Selected by Montreal Canadiens round 12 #247 overall 1985 NHL Entry Draft
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Post by MPLABBE on Aug 30, 2003 8:29:16 GMT -5
Man did Quinn look stoned(then again it's not like Pat is always smilling or anything). Can you say he wanted Tambelinni BADDLY? Ferguson jr on the score was asked if he had the power to fire quinn and he said 'certainly' btw for whatever that means.
Many think that Ferguson is just a guy that they were forced to select because Quinn didn't want Neil Smith(but Peddie and co did) while the others didn't want Tambelinni.
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Post by Cranky on Aug 30, 2003 8:38:29 GMT -5
Ferguson jr on the score was asked if he had the power to fire quinn and he said 'certainly' btw for whatever that means. That is why I am laughing. No one would even think of asking that question to a real GM. NO ONE! "St. Bo, can you fire Julien?" St. Bo would ask why he should fire Julien, where Junior has to confirm that he has the power to do so. On the other hand Junior keeps answering, "Yes, I am the GM, believe me, for sure, why don't you believe me? Please believe me! Look, I even made my own business cards saying that I am the Laffs GM." |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Aug 30, 2003 8:44:57 GMT -5
The Leafs' GM selection committee:  |
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Post by Cranky on Aug 30, 2003 9:11:08 GMT -5
AI thought they look like these three............  Trying to select....  |
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Post by MPLABBE on Aug 30, 2003 11:37:48 GMT -5
and Richard Peddie makes Boivin look like the best president in the NHL.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 30, 2003 12:12:52 GMT -5
Oh well, so much for my next Dis and That.
Anyway, Ferguson could and should be the one who fires Quinn, not if, but when the time comes. Jr is like his dad in many ways, most noteably in character. He's already put his foot down as to the chain of command and on the surface everyone is accepting that.
The first thing Jr. has to contend with is the Leafs board of governors. It seems past GMs can't do squat without their approval. It's a system that is keeping Toronto from going all the way. Of course, Quinn is doing his best at that as well.
Sure, Jr. and Quinn will discuss team and player matters. But every decision that comes out of that office will be heavily scrutinized by the Toronto media, who are never satisfied. Both Quinn and Jr will have to be extremely careful as to what and how they say things to the media. But, then again, you're talking about a media that includes Al Strachan and Steve Simmons.
Strachan will interpret comments into any perception that best suits him, and not so much as to what is actually said. He's more concerned about staying at the forefront of other journalists than he is about objectivity; just an opinion. Simmons was one of the "No-way-Lindros-to-Toronto" mongers by pointing out all of Lindros's character flaws in a very well written article. When the Blue Shirts signed Lindros, however, Simmons was front and centre when he ripped the Buds for not landing a bonafide centre; more specifically, Lindros.
On a positive side, Jr. brings something the Leafs haven't had in years; youth. That may work out for him and the club. The Leafs have three or four defensive prospects ready to step in and there was no way in hades they were going to get the chance under Quinn.
What the Leafs are lacking, though, are talented offensive prospects. Taking a look at the St Louis drafting over the past few years, there's been pretty good European-to-North America ratio. However, looking at the Leafs, there seems to be the tendancy to stick to North American prospects, which either haven't had the opportunity, or haven't made it at all. Europeans have generally been taken in the later rounds and Jr. should bring his experience in St Louis to the draft table.
I don't find it all that bad at all actually. I'm rather glad the Leaf prospects haven't been making an impact all that much, which is mainly due to Quinn's relutance to insert youth into the lineup. And, that's one of the reasons I'm happy Quinn is still in Toronto. Another would be that he gets the veteran-laden Buds to the playoffs, but that's it; his veterans can't finish; heck, the can't even get along (sort of reminds me of the Habs).
Yet, all that could change when Jr. and Quinn lock horns; and they will. Quinn will be dismissed; not the other way around. Dryden will read another book at the press conference, but that will probably be the day the Leafs finally take hockey seriously. Honestly, I can wait.
Cheers.
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