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Post by PTH on Sept 11, 2004 18:22:14 GMT -5
Good game to date, but I wish we could have a Theo-Vokun matchup, if only to see if we traded the right guy :-)
Gretzky's daughter is a real cutie, but she also looks cheap and can't sing worth crap. And I wish we could have had a 50-50 Hymn, rather than the entirely translated version.
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Post by jkr on Sept 11, 2004 18:28:00 GMT -5
Gretzky's daughter is a real cutie, but she also looks cheap and can't sing worth crap. And I wish we could have had a 50-50 Hymn, rather than the entirely translated version. She also sang at the Habs - Oilers outdoor game. I guess she is proof that you don't have to have a lot of talent, just a famous father - kind of like Ben Mulroney. |
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Post by Khorps on Sept 11, 2004 19:23:19 GMT -5
I got the impression from her false start, and the low volume that she was only lip-synching.
Unlike Ben, she didn't have to sleep with anyone to get the gig.
Oh, the game. I was getting real nervous until Canada put the first one in.
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Post by seventeen on Sept 11, 2004 19:50:44 GMT -5
Well, Drapers goal was certainly against the play. I was about to say we looked tired, and since the games not over, that could still haunt us. the other thing I was going to say is that if you played the Sesame Street "Which of these things doesn't belong here?"
I obviously am prescient....3-3.
Anyway, what I think doesn't belong there is Richards and St. Louis. As a TB disliker, that's my disclaimer, but they certainly look out of place. Lecavalier's been good.
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Sept 11, 2004 20:10:56 GMT -5
Outstanding hockey. At least it looks like the season will end on a high note Tuesday evening.
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Post by seventeen on Sept 11, 2004 20:14:27 GMT -5
Heatley keeps getting stronger and stronger. He's my pick to score the winner for the good guys.
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Post by MC Habber on Sept 11, 2004 20:43:02 GMT -5
Towards the end we looked slower, weaker, and less skilled than the Czechs, but we got it done thanks to some huge saves by Luongo.
I don't think I've ever seen Jagr look as upset as he did after the game.
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Post by blaise on Sept 11, 2004 21:34:29 GMT -5
I don't think the Canadians looked better than the Czechs. In fact, I had the opposite impression and was mildly surprised that the Czechs didn't win in overtime. However, Vincent Lecavalier demonstrated that he is easily the best Québécois center (Mario played left wing).
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Post by PTH on Sept 11, 2004 21:59:49 GMT -5
Anyway, what I think doesn't belong there is Richards and St. Louis. As a TB disliker, that's my disclaimer, but they certainly look out of place. Lecavalier's been good. Well, St-Louis and Richards got fairly little ice time, too, so it's no surprise if they weren't as involved as in past games. I don't like Quinn sitting out guys who played key roles in the last Cup win like that.... I mean, what better credentials could they have brought ? (other than being Leafs) |
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Post by MC Habber on Sept 11, 2004 22:02:42 GMT -5
Lecavalier's goal was similar to Koivu's: side of the open net, fumbled on the first opportunity, but recovered in time.
I predict Heatley will have a big game against the Finns.
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Post by MC Habber on Sept 11, 2004 22:04:00 GMT -5
Well, St-Louis and Richards got fairly little ice time, too, so it's no surprise if they weren't as involved as in past games. I don't like Quinn sitting out guys who played key roles in the last Cup win like that.... I mean, what better credentials could they have brought ? (other than being Leafs) It does seem odd that they were chosen ahead of Lecavalier and yet he ended up being the star while they watched from the bench. |
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Post by seventeen on Sept 11, 2004 22:20:04 GMT -5
Well, St-Louis and Richards got fairly little ice time, too, so it's no surprise if they weren't as involved as in past games. I don't like Quinn sitting out guys who played key roles in the last Cup win like that.... I think they earned their ice time, or lack of it. They were having trouble in their own end handling the Czech foreczeching. And I remember one play in particular, Richards and St. Louis breaking out 2 on 2 and Richards lost the puck off the end of his stick, under no pressure, at the red line. Jitters maybe. But they weren't' on their games. |
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Post by Strummerman on Sept 11, 2004 23:29:53 GMT -5
Great game and Im proud of the the way Canada behaves as well classy effort. Now I think the last few games Richards and St Louis and gagne have been the weakest line. St Louis has really slowed down.
Mario Lemieux was outstanding in the second period. Did he drink a youth serum. Mario may yet establish himself as the best player again.
The defence showed kinks in the armor. The new guys had problems like Regher and Hannah. Games like this we need the Prongers and Blakes and Jovos.
Luongo I though was great considering how he was unprepared.
Overall I think this was the gold medal game. Finland will be destroyed Saku or no Saku
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Post by CentreHice on Sept 12, 2004 0:39:18 GMT -5
Overall I think this was the gold medal game. Finland will be destroyed Saku or no Saku When's the last time Kiprusoff had a bad game? He's the key. The Finns are playing with huge confidence because they know he's back there. Hopefully, Brodeur will be back so the Canadians will play with the same confidence. I think that had a large part to play in the Canadian game tonight. Luongo made many heroic saves...and I think part of the reason they got so many chances is that Canada was playing a lot like Sweden did against the Czechs--tentative, scared-to-lose. They "say" they have confidence in all their goalies...but when it comes right down to it...the confidence to play all-out Canadian-style occurs best when Marty's in net. (not that Luongo is Tellqvist by any stretch....don't get me wrong...but you know what I mean) When that confidence is there, the scoring chances against go down because the other team is too busy figuring out how to limit our scoring chances...and facing Kiprusoff, we'll need all we can get. |
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Post by HabbaDasher on Sept 12, 2004 0:41:53 GMT -5
The Czechs were faster, more dominant, and should have won the game.
They were the better team....
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Post by blaise on Sept 12, 2004 0:48:18 GMT -5
At least this one thread still has earnest discussions of what's actually happening in the hockey world. The Chairman of the Board hasn't managed to divert it into an anti-Kovalev jeremiad, although there's lots of time between now and Tuesday for sluicing the flow into that dead-end channel.
Canada will probably win against Finland because it has a lot more firepower. However, the Finns have a chance because the Canadian defensrmen don't seem to be impenetrable, Kiprusoff could have a hot game, and the shooters could spend the first period directing high slapshots to Brodeur's glove side.
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Post by seventeen on Sept 12, 2004 1:11:39 GMT -5
At least this one thread still has earnest discussions of what's actually happening in the hockey world. The Chairman of the Board hasn't managed to divert it into an anti-Kovalev jeremiad, although there's lots of time between now and Tuesday for sluicing the flow into that dead-end channel. Tsk, tsk, this is the first reference to Kovalev on this interesting thread, and its not from Mr B. It takes two to tango, Blaise. To your other point, I agree that Canada's missing Redden and Jovanovski, the guys that were able to start the tourney. Bouwmeester's playing well, but Hannan seems a little out of his element as does Regehr, though Robyn's had a few good moments too. With Jovo there, a few Czech heads would be up rather than looking at the puck, and his transition game is very good. The Czechs played well tonight and deserved a better fate IMO. Not that I'm disappointed in the outcome. A Czech/Finn final would not get many Canadian viewers, though it would be a good game. Don't underrate the Finns. They're as close to Canadians as a country gets. Lots of heart. No wonder I like Saku so much. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Sept 12, 2004 4:14:18 GMT -5
I'm having trouble realizing that the 9 year old kid phenom, Wayne Gretzky, who was on Hockey night in Canada, is now an executive and father of the teenager who sang at the game. Where did the years go?
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Sept 12, 2004 8:28:07 GMT -5
The Czechs were faster, more dominant, and should have won the game. They were the better team.... Yep. The Czechs dictated the tempo and took the game to the Canadians. Shots on goal favoured The Czechs by a 2:1 margin. Luongo was solid. Finnish confidence is high. Canada's not so much. Should be a dandy final. Kovalev must be praised...Kovalev must be praised...Kovalev must be praised... |
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Post by blaise on Sept 12, 2004 9:17:52 GMT -5
A Czech/Finn final would not get many Canadian viewers, though it would be a good game. Don't underrate the Finns. They're as close to Canadians as a country gets. Lots of heart. No wonder I like Saku so much. I know the Finns have heart. Their tiny country gave the USSR quite a tussle when the Soviets invaded. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 12, 2004 10:11:50 GMT -5
The Czechs were faster, more dominant, and should have won the game. They were the better team.... Agreed, HD. As the game progressed I noticed how much the Czechs dominated territorially. They went into OT with absoultely nothing to lose and came out playing that way. The Czechs really should have won the game and as Pat Quinn said, "... we escaped ..." And it's pretty much the same scenario with Finland. They're already heros in their country for taking out the USA and have absolutely nothing to lose against Canada as well. The pressure is entirely on Team Canada. Cheers. |
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Post by blaise on Sept 12, 2004 11:00:36 GMT -5
Luckily (as it turns out) for Team Canada, Steve Yzerman was injured and his replacement was the French-Canadian center who leads his team in scoring. How would he look as a Canadien? Lecavalier and Koivu, with Bonk on the third line.
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Post by Skilly on Sept 12, 2004 11:58:13 GMT -5
Gretzky's daughter is a real cutie, but she also looks cheap and can't sing worth crap. And I wish we could have had a 50-50 Hymn, rather than the entirely translated version. I thought the same thing. I believe she is looking for a career as a singer, and with her parents I am sure alot of doors will open up. But I was ticked that in a Canada-Czechia game in Toronto they let an American sing the uni-lingual Canadien anthem. There are hundreds or thousands of young Canadians looking to find recording deals as well ...... a Canadian should have sung the song (even though I hate the show, they could have had all three finalists from "Canadian Idol" do it) in both languages. (If it was a cutie they were after, the girl on "Idol" isn't exactly ugly either) Now for the game: I kept thinking to myself "what if Theo was in net now". If Theo lat in those 2 incredibly weak goals immediately after Team canada goals there would be a thread with 10,000 posts now screaming to trade him and get Garon back. But it was Luongo and we give him the benefit of the doubt. I thought he played well in the OT, but he was the reason the game was in OT in the first place. I don't think he played all that well (in the game as a whole) I have said before, Luongo is not used to pressure games. He has no playoff experience to draw from, and only WC on the international scene (where it is not exactly a best on best tournament). For years, and maybe even now, Canada did not care about the WC .... there is no real pressure to perform since it is not live and die if we lose. If they were so important to us, wouldn't you think Gretzky would be involved in it as well? |
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Post by jkr on Sept 12, 2004 12:21:08 GMT -5
Now for the game: I kept thinking to myself "what if Theo was in net now". If Theo lat in those 2 incredibly weak goals immediately after Team canada goals there would be a thread with 10,000 posts now screaming to trade him and get Garon back. But it was Luongo and we give him the benefit of the doubt. I thought he played well in the OT, but he was the reason the game was in OT in the first place. I don't think he played all that well (in the game as a whole) It's not just me then. I thought the CBC was giving Luongo a lot of credit because of the shot totals. He made some big saves in OT but his overall game was not strong. I'm still trying to figure out how the first goal went in. Let's hope Brodeur is ready Tuesday. |
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Post by blaise on Sept 12, 2004 12:28:58 GMT -5
As I said before, the Finns will quickly try to find out if Brodeur's left hand is still sore by firing slapshots high and to the glove side.
Luongo got the job done ... sort of. However, I was surprised his teammates didn't try harder to get his stick back to him after he lost it. He had to make 2 saves without it.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 12, 2004 12:34:07 GMT -5
Luckily (as it turns out) for Team Canada, Steve Yzerman was injured and his replacement was the French-Canadian center who leads his team in scoring. How would he look as a Canadien? Lecavalier and Koivu, with Bonk on the third line. A sentiment from Doc's own heart, Blaise. He's been flogging "the young Jean Beliveau" to Montreal ever since Lecavalier came into the league. Though it's hard to compete with a Stanley Cup winner and a place that's warm the whole year, it would be nice to see him in Montreal. Cheers. |
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Post by CentreHice on Sept 12, 2004 12:37:03 GMT -5
I kept thinking to myself "what if Theo was in net now". If Theo lat in those 2 incredibly weak goals immediately after Team canada goals there would be a thread with 10,000 posts now screaming to trade him and get Garon back. My son and I were saying the same thing. The first and third goals reminded us of Theo in the first 4 games against Boston. And if Luongo had allowed an OT goal...there WOULD be 10,000 posts screaming for his head. Nick Kypreos (who's making much more sense lately) said the same thing about Luongo's two weak ones....but, he added, he didn't allow the one that broke Canada's back......and so the big saves are what everyone remembers. Perhaps the jitters will be gone if he has to play on Tuesday. There's no way it's going to be Theo. That would throw the players for another loop. What an incredible tough-angle shot by Vinny...world-class. If only Harry Neale could say his name correctly. "LECAVLIER"? |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 12, 2004 13:56:34 GMT -5
I'm still trying to figure out how the first goal went in. I'm wondering if Luongo thought the same thing, jkr. There's two perspectives on that one I guess; - If you're the Czechs it might be, "work hard and goals like that go in."
- However, if you're the Canadians it might be, "well, if you give them a second chance you're going to let goals like that go in.
I was just talking to my dad and he said the Czechs have always been same; you can't let up on these guys because they're always in the game. And, once they know they can score .... What made me scratch my head was the penalty call on Lecavalier. If you're the Czechs, it couldn't have come at a better time. They were dominating and out-hustling the Canadians right up to that point. If you're the Canadians, the penalty couldn't have come at a worse time. Having said that though, we stole one that's for sure. Cheers. |
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Post by duster on Sept 12, 2004 13:58:12 GMT -5
What a game! One of the best I've seen in quite a while. That pass reception by Lemieux to initiate the play on his goal! wow... The Czechs were formidable opponents, took over the play in the third period and should have won, IMHO. Even Jagr came out to play.
After watching the Finns play Sweden, I anticipate a very physical game on Tuesday. I noticed that they were running around in their zone a fair bit when the Swedes had the puck. This is something that might prove costly against Canada's highly skilled and larger forwards.
The Lions are going to have play one of their best games ever for Finland to win. I wonder what Niniima is thinking right now...
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Post by seventeen on Sept 12, 2004 14:00:42 GMT -5
There is one silver lining to missing next season. It's that Cole and Neale will be a year older and perhaps time will take its toll, and they'll be removed from HNIC broadcasts. Will someone please get Bob some glasses? He keeps calling players by other players names and isn't even sure who scores when. Arrrgg!, why am I still complaining. It would be much simpler and less stressful to call the CBC brass in charge and tell them I'm taking a contract out on them unless they make changes. HA, can you send me a contact name from your Rolodex?
I was talking to my brother after the 3rd and we both questioned Luongo's play to that point. I was never comfortable with his saves, unlike Brodeur. We also both thought Theo had played better in the "preseason" games and that he should have been 2nd in line. In any case, Luongo didn't give up a game losing goal, but I can blame him for a few more grey hairs.
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