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Post by habsburgher on Jul 13, 2005 13:24:31 GMT -5
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Post by Ryan on Jul 13, 2005 13:47:43 GMT -5
habsrus.proboards4.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&n=1&thread=1121265319TSN reports the lottery will be slightly weighted. All teams with 3 balls to start. Lose 1 ball for everytime you made the playoffs in the last 3 years and 1 for every first overall pick in the last 4. It will also be a fantasy style reverse order 7 round draft taking place in Ottawa on the 30th. By my calculations, here's how the lottery balls will shake down... Teams with 3 Balls (6.12% chance of winning): Buffalo Columbus Florida New York Teams with 2 Balls (4.08% chance of winning): Anaheim Atlanta Calgary Chicago Edmonton Los Angeles Minnesota Nashville Phoenix Pittsburgh Washington Teams with 1 Ball (2.04% chance of winning): Boston Carolina Colorado Dallas Detroit Long Island Montreal New Jersey Ottawa Philadelphia San Jose St-Louis Tampa Bay Toronto Vancouver Please correct me if anything appears wrong here.
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Post by Cranky on Jul 13, 2005 18:05:41 GMT -5
While all the teams have a chance, things are FAR from equal.
For example, the Rangers have three times as much opportunity to draft Crosby as the Hab's have. The Hab's should have fought tooth and nail to make sure everyone had an equal chance.
Just to drive a nail in the head of Hab fans, the hockey God's will give us 30th......
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jul 13, 2005 18:43:16 GMT -5
How badly does Buttman want Crosby in New York!  |
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Post by TheCaper on Jul 13, 2005 18:43:43 GMT -5
Just to drive a nial in the head of Hab fans, the hockey God's will give us 30th...... .... and 31st |
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Post by HFTO on Jul 13, 2005 18:50:13 GMT -5
He'll be a Hab someday anyways,just make sure you live long enough!
HFTO
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jul 13, 2005 21:22:30 GMT -5
Our lonely little Hab ball hopefully will pop out of the drum early!!
1st and 60th would be just fine by me; 30th and 31st isn't the worst; guess we will just have to wait until next Thursday when they supposedly will hold the lottery.
We want Sid...we want Sid...we want Sid...
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Post by duster on Jul 14, 2005 0:38:44 GMT -5
The prospect of seeing the Rangers being rewarded for their ineptitude and Glen Sather smirking when he selects Crosby is enough to make me consider lawn bowling as a spectator sport. Argghhhh!
We need those Forum ghosts badly...
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Post by Rimmer on Jul 14, 2005 4:05:58 GMT -5
can you imagine the line of Nash-Crosby-Zherdev in a few years?  R. |
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Post by Gogie on Jul 14, 2005 7:49:25 GMT -5
Does anyone know what picks in this year's draft have been traded in deals done before the lockout?
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jul 14, 2005 8:58:25 GMT -5
can you imagine the line of Nash-Crosby-Zherdev in a few years? R. They'll have many lines to go before they can match the harmony achieved by Crosby-Stills-Nash. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jul 14, 2005 11:52:08 GMT -5
Rewarding failure is wrong.
Reparations for poor performance is wrong.
All teams deserve the same opportunity and the same number of balls.
Sather has done so poorly that he might make the wrong pick if he gets #1.
Why the Rangesrs deserve a 300% greater chance of picking #1 than the Canadiens is beyond me, other than that's where Bettman wants him!
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Post by Habit on Jul 14, 2005 12:15:36 GMT -5
Rewarding failure is wrong. Reparations for poor performance is wrong. All teams deserve the same opportunity and the same number of balls. Sather has done so poorly that he might make the wrong pick if he gets #1. Why the Rangesrs deserve a 300% greater chance of picking #1 than the Canadiens is beyond me, other than that's where Bettman wants him! |
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Post by Andrew on Jul 14, 2005 13:22:54 GMT -5
Rewarding failure is wrong. Reparations for poor performance is wrong. All teams deserve the same opportunity and the same number of balls. I agree. Atlanta has cashed in on that opportunity in drafting Heatley, Kovalchuck, Lethonen, and Coburn. That's at least two, and potentially 4 franchise players. Montreal who have struggled in mediocrity, in recent years, haven't even had a sniff of that calibre of talent in the draft. Atlanta really don't deserve more than one ball in this thing. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jul 14, 2005 14:11:06 GMT -5
The Hab's have a better chance winning at the roulette roulette than they do of winning the lottery.
A rich man has a better chance of getting into heaven than the Hab's have of winning the lottery.
I have a better chance or getting divorced and marrying Jessica Simpson.
Michelle Wei has a better chance of winning the Tour de France on a BMX.
Make it fair to all teams! (too late)
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Post by habsburgher on Jul 14, 2005 15:10:54 GMT -5
does first overall count to lose a ball if you dont finish last but trade for the first overall pick
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Post by roke on Jul 14, 2005 16:09:01 GMT -5
does first overall count to lose a ball if you dont finish last but trade for the first overall pick No, only if you won the draft lottery. |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jul 17, 2005 13:56:25 GMT -5
A NUMBER of television networks have pleaded with the National Hockey League to have access to the coming draft lottery. However, the NHL, already overburdened with far too much publicity and an even greater amount of public goodwill, has imperiously rejected all of those pleas. And who can blame them? It's far better to have these events conducted in secrecy. After all, a draft lottery which determines the future home of Sidney Crosby is none of the fans' business. One of those television networks, somehow managing to remain unoffended by this haughty and condescending approach from the NHL, asked if it could take another tack. With hockey about to come back into the sporting world, it seemed reasonable to assume that the league's public-relations department would be gearing up for a big splash. The network made it clear that it would like to do a positive story, one known in the industry as a puff piece. Therefore, it requested permission to send over a cameraman and do some shooting in the PR offices. The request was flatly denied. Tell us again about the new, positive, fan-friendly NHL. - www.torsun.canoe.ca/Sports/Hockey/2005/07/17/1135088-sun.html |
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Post by Andrew on Jul 17, 2005 14:06:10 GMT -5
That's really lame. I guess it'll be harder to fake a fixed NRY win on network television.
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Post by Habit on Jul 17, 2005 14:39:43 GMT -5
Carefull... They just want to let Crosby goto the teams he wants to go to...  |
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Post by BadCompany on Jul 17, 2005 14:59:26 GMT -5
As Doc Holiday says, "hockey must be a hell of game to survive the idiots running it."
Why in the world would they not want to televise this??
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jul 17, 2005 16:03:53 GMT -5
As Doc Holiday says, "hockey must be a hell of game to survive the idiots running it." Why in the world would they not want to televise this?? When watching a lottery ball drop is more exciting than the actual Hockey Draft a week later, we see why tv viewers are drawn to celebrity poker. After the first five guys are selected it's hard to have an opinion of who is better for the Hab's to take at #26. After Crosby is selected, interest and importance drops 1000%. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jul 17, 2005 16:10:48 GMT -5
A while back, I kidded that I would trade the entire team to get Crosby.
Now Crosby at $850,000 and $38 million to sign 20 of the free agents doesn't sound too bad?
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Post by roke on Jul 17, 2005 18:00:19 GMT -5
A while back, I kidded that I would trade the entire team to get Crosby. Now Crosby at $850,000 and $38 million to sign 20 of the free agents doesn't sound too bad? 22 of those free agents, we'd need a 23 man roster |
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Post by jkr on Jul 17, 2005 18:05:08 GMT -5
There are a lot of complaints here about rewarding failure. I don't agree. This is the way it is done in the NFL and the NBA and is one of the only ways for weak teams to improve. If your scouting is good than you can pick in the later rounds like Ottawa & New Jersey and still come up with gems.
If the Habs were in the same boat as Buffalo et. al. and had a great shot at Crosby there wouldn't be any posts here about rewarding ineptitude.
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jul 17, 2005 18:22:46 GMT -5
If the Habs were in the same boat as Buffalo et. al. and had a great shot at Crosby there wouldn't be any posts here about rewarding ineptitude. There would be from me—it's in my job description. |
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Post by MC Habber on Jul 17, 2005 19:00:59 GMT -5
Does anyone know what picks in this year's draft have been traded in deals done before the lockout? No. I'm surprised that nobody (tsn, espn, etc.) has compiled a list of how many picks each team will get in each round. I found a list of deadline deals from last year which has some info. Also, there is what appears to be a complete list of player movements from the last year, including trades and signings (and not only for the NHL). Unfortunately, it doesn't tell you who people were traded for. |
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Post by franko on Jul 17, 2005 20:23:44 GMT -5
A NUMBER of television networks have pleaded with the National Hockey League to have access to the coming draft lottery. However, the NHL, already overburdened with far too much publicity and an even greater amount of public goodwill, has imperiously rejected all of those pleas. The biggest problem with a behind-closed-doors ping-pong ball drop will be the ever-present question . . . was it rigged? In order to dispell any illusion of foul play it must be open. |
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Post by MC Habber on Jul 18, 2005 0:47:35 GMT -5
A NUMBER of television networks have pleaded with the National Hockey League to have access to the coming draft lottery. However, the NHL, already overburdened with far too much publicity and an even greater amount of public goodwill, has imperiously rejected all of those pleas. The biggest problem with a behind-closed-doors ping-pong ball drop will be the ever-present question . . . was it rigged? In order to dispell any illusion of foul play it must be open. Unless someone like Nashville wins.... I don't really think the other 29 owners would go along with handing Crosby to the Rangers (or anyone else). |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jul 18, 2005 14:00:33 GMT -5
Hockey fans in 30 cities would tune in to see if they get Crosby. Why not televise it for them?
Fans in two cities would tune in to watch Nashville play Phoenix.
If you are looking for TV exposure, and the networks want to carry your show, why not accomodate them?
Gary Bettman..............
that must be the reason!
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