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Post by Yeti on Jul 19, 2005 19:15:37 GMT -5
Acorrding to TSN, the committee is officially recommanding the removal of the red line. How do you feel about it? I know it has been discussed in another thread but it is now official. I'm a bit surprised, I didn`t think they would consider it seriously for this year (I guess the board and the NHLPA could vote it down?)...
Does it change the way GMs would build their team? You do like to have a Bulis around center ice while a guy like Dagenais isn`t likely to be useful trying to escape on a breakaway...
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 19, 2005 20:58:14 GMT -5
I really don't know, Yeti. I'd love to see a more open end-to-end game but I'm also a traditionalist as well. There's a specific stategy to having the red line. Yet, the net-hangers of the league would love it I'm sure. Heck, it might even be an effective alternative to the trap. I really don't know.
I'm up in the air on this one buds. Maybe give it a whirl in the preseason and see how it goes.
Cheers.
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Post by Forum Ghost on Jul 20, 2005 22:20:02 GMT -5
I'm with you Dis. I'm a traditionalist as well and would like to see them keep the red line in, but since there's such a long-standing debate on it, I wouldn't mind if they tried it for a year or two and saw how it went.
If it creates more offence then keep it, and if it doesn't then atleast the NHL will have no regrets and the debate can finally be put to rest.
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Post by Tattac on Jul 21, 2005 0:39:13 GMT -5
I am trying to vote but it doesn't work!
I am for keeping the red line. AFAIK in Finland and the Czech Republic they are going to bring it back the next season. It didn't create more offence in Europe. So why will it be any different in the NHL?
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Post by Rimmer on Jul 21, 2005 2:21:07 GMT -5
...and Russian Superleague is probably the most defense-oriented and one of the lowest scoring leagues in the world.  I think red line could bring more offense at the beginning since it would require some time for both players and coaches to adjust. but in the end, it would all be the same. defensive-minded coaches/teams would still play to allow fewer goals than their opponents instead of trying to score more so removing the red line, IMHO, would not solve anything. R. |
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Post by Tattac on Jul 21, 2005 4:09:13 GMT -5
...and Russian Superleague is probably the most defense-oriented and one of the lowest scoring leagues in the world. Exactly! Though some people say that the Swedish League is even worse. Without red line. |
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Post by Polarice on Jul 21, 2005 4:38:28 GMT -5
I really don't know, Yeti. I'd love to see a more open end-to-end game but I'm also a traditionalist as well. There's a specific stategy to having the red line. Yet, the net-hangers of the league would love it I'm sure. Heck, it might even be an effective alternative to the trap. I really don't know. I'm up in the air on this one buds. Maybe give it a whirl in the preseason and see how it goes. Cheers. Back in the early days of the NHL there was no red line, it was only used for faceoffs. It wasn't untill the NHL really started to take off with expansion in the 40's or 50's that they introduced the two line pass to prevent high scoring games because they felt that the legue's talent pool was getting thin and the new players couldn't keep up with the top players. Kinda sound familar! |
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Post by BadCompany on Jul 21, 2005 6:52:24 GMT -5
...and Russian Superleague is probably the most defense-oriented and one of the lowest scoring leagues in the world. I think red line could bring more offense at the beginning since it would require some time for both players and coaches to adjust. but in the end, it would all be the same. defensive-minded coaches/teams would still play to allow fewer goals than their opponents instead of trying to score more so removing the red line, IMHO, would not solve anything. R. What was it Pierre McGuire said on the Team 990? There was something like twelve 0-0 games in the Russian Super League last year? Its like you said, defensive-minded coaches will adapt. The first time Ron Hainsey gets beaten by a home run pass, because he was cheating up a little bit and trying to get some offense going, what do you think Claude Julien and 90% of the people here are going to say? "Good try Ron, we're trying to open up the game and that's how you do it?"or "You had darn well better make sure no guy ever gets behind you like that again, if you ever want to see the ice again?" |
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Post by Bob on Jul 21, 2005 8:15:13 GMT -5
Get rid of the red line, move the blue lines farther from the net to create a larger attack zone and call icings only from inside your own blue line.
If nothing else it would result in fewer whistles/faceoffs to keep the momentum of the game going.
How's that for radical?
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Post by Cranky on Jul 21, 2005 9:21:41 GMT -5
Get rid of the red line, move the blue lines farther from the net to create a larger attack zone and call icings only from inside your own blue line. If nothing else it would result in fewer whistles/faceoffs to keep the momentum of the game going. How's that for radical? Bah....get rid of ALL the line andlet's just see them play a glorified game of shiny..... *bangs head on desk* Why don't they just apply the rules they have, chain the goaltenders to their net and reduce the size of the goaltending equipment? That's all they need to add a few goals per game. *takes aspirin for headache* |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jul 21, 2005 9:37:18 GMT -5
The first time Ron Hainsey gets beaten by a home run pass, because he was cheating up a little bit and trying to get some offense going, what do you think Claude Julien and 90% of the people here are going to say? "Good try Ron, we're trying to open up the game and that's how you do it?"Catch-22? Perhaps. If his brain hurts after that recommendation, there is still hope. Much too harsh for Ron—would work with Higgins and Plekanec. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jul 21, 2005 15:17:26 GMT -5
Get rid of the red line, move the blue lines farther from the net to create a larger attack zone and call icings only from inside your own blue line. If nothing else it would result in fewer whistles/faceoffs to keep the momentum of the game going. How's that for radical? Radical is joining the two blue lines and the red line to form a mauve line. Then you have two referees and one linesman. |
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