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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 28, 2005 11:15:09 GMT -5
What Roenick lacks in tact and political correctness, he more than makes up for with truth and honesty. He’s right – the NHLPA could have gotten a better deal, perhaps should have gotten a better deal, and in the process they are giving up more than any other sports union in the history of sports. Perhaps more than any other union, period. Heck, they gave up more with their 24% rollback offer that was so readily scoffed at. But for all the wailing about how the players could have, would have, should have gotten a better deal, who here thinks that NHL owners are in better shape now than they were 15 months ago? Who here thinks this lockout, even with the union-crushing deal at the end, is going to be beneficial to the league and its masters? Who here thinks the league would have been better off negotiating off of the players 24% rollback offer, and come up with something to save the season then? Heck, one team is already for sale, before the CBA has even been signed, because they don’t think they can make any money in the new league. And that’s a supposedly good market team. The players are going to take a beating when they come back, but they were not the only people responsible for this mess. I betcha if you back Bill Wirtz or Jeremy Jacobs into a corner and ask them if they are all that concerned that people think they are greedy, malicious hard-liners only interested in their bottom line and not the fans, you’d get a similar “they can kiss my a**” comment. The owners just aren’t as visible, and lets face it, who really cares what Craig Leiopold has to say, or Philip Anshutz, or Mr. Samuelli, who’s first name I don’t even know. Who here can name more than 10 owners? Both sides have shown an appalling lack of concern for the everyday Joe Fan, but its going to be the players who are going to take bear the brunt of the fans anger. Yes, the players could have gotten a better deal. But so could the owners. There are no winners here. BC is right in that Jeremy is a warrior and tells it like he thinks it is. As such we should cut him some slack. His tirade sounds like the political opinion of a Dixie Chick and carries about as much weight. Jessica Simpson should stick to music and not try to explain the Theory of Relativity. Roenick knows hockey, but his insightful analysis of hockey fan relationship is like Ray Charles trying to find Waldo, not the best insight. Jeremy should be more like Michael Jackson's lawyers and try to avoid the truth at all costs. |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jun 28, 2005 12:31:37 GMT -5
Do you remember the incredibly talented Kovalev? He showed that incredible talent of saying all the right things and coming up with ALL the right excuses while skating lazy eight circles every night....until.....until his agent told him that he was not getting any offers and if he did not show SOMETHING in the last few games, millions would slip away. Heck, he even showed us how much pain he take for the team when he dropped the puck, stick and tears from a pee-wee slash. Hmmm...should I....shouldn't I....? Nah, I've written my book on Allwaxy Kiwiloaf. Gainey bid 3 according to all (un)reliable rumours et ça suffit pour moi. For the masochists and history buffs |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 28, 2005 18:14:11 GMT -5
What Roenick lacks in tact and political correctness, he more than makes up for with truth and honesty. He’s right – the NHLPA could have gotten a better deal, perhaps should have gotten a better deal, and in the process they are giving up more than any other sports union in the history of sports. Perhaps more than any other union, period. Heck, they gave up more with their 24% rollback offer that was so readily scoffed at. But for all the wailing about how the players could have, would have, should have gotten a better deal, who here thinks that NHL owners are in better shape now than they were 15 months ago? Who here thinks this lockout, even with the union-crushing deal at the end, is going to be beneficial to the league and its masters? Who here thinks the league would have been better off negotiating off of the players 24% rollback offer, and come up with something to save the season then? Heck, one team is already for sale, before the CBA has even been signed, because they don’t think they can make any money in the new league. And that’s a supposedly good market team. The players are going to take a beating when they come back, but they were not the only people responsible for this mess. I betcha if you back Bill Wirtz or Jeremy Jacobs into a corner and ask them if they are all that concerned that people think they are greedy, malicious hard-liners only interested in their bottom line and not the fans, you’d get a similar “they can kiss my a**” comment. The owners just aren’t as visible, and lets face it, who really cares what Craig Leiopold has to say, or Philip Anshutz, or Mr. Samuelli, who’s first name I don’t even know. Who here can name more than 10 owners? Both sides have shown an appalling lack of concern for the everyday Joe Fan, but its going to be the players who are going to take bear the brunt of the fans anger. Yes, the players could have gotten a better deal. But so could the owners. There are no winners here. BC is right in that Jeremy is a warrior and tells it like he thinks it is. As such we should cut him some slack. His tirade sounds like the political opinion of a Dixie Chick and carries about as much weight. Jessica Simpson should stick to music and not try to explain the Theory of Relativity. Roenick knows hockey, but his insightful analysis of hockey fan relationship is like Ray Charles trying to find Waldo, not the best insight. Jeremy should be more like Michael Jackson's lawyers and try to avoid the truth at all costs. As Jeremy Roenick said, "I was misquoted!" I didn't mean to say that Roenick was as dumb as Jessica Simpson and the Dixie Chicks. It was taken out of context. The full quote said he was a warrior and a tough hockey player. An honest hardworking player and a gentleman. He sits on a pedistal as an example for Albert Schweitzer to emulate. He is a brilliant intellectual who belongs on TV shows like Jepardy, not the Jerry Springer Show. You'd think that after all these years, o'l Jeremy would know that the media goes for 7 second sound bites, not long boring orations. Even Larry the cable guy knows that. |
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Post by Cockroach on Jun 30, 2005 14:30:00 GMT -5
You'd think that after all these years, o'l Jeremy would know that the media goes for 7 second sound bites, not long boring orations. Even Larry the cable guy knows that. You would also think he would know that the only fans who would hear and be interested in his comments are Canadian and that in Canada hockey is not just another sport,it is ingrained in the national psyche, and hearing one of our 'heros' tell us to '%^&* off',would generate considerable attention  . His comments only add to the impression of spoiled little boys paid millions to play a game. |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jun 30, 2005 14:44:08 GMT -5
Roenick actually was quoted out of context—just the media doing their jobs. Fortunately, here at HabsRus you will never witness that kind of behaviour. * "Everybody out there who calls us spoiled because we play 'a game,' they can all kiss my ass. They can all kiss my ass because we have tried so hard to get this game back on the ice," he said last weekend.You hit me with a flower You do it every hour Ohh, baby you’re so vicious - Lou Reed * "Don't show snippets of the interview; show the whole interview, the whole message. My message during the interview was: How do we make the game more appealing to the fans? "Before I went into my rant, I was talking about the game of hockey, about getting it back on the ice, about what we have to do for the fans and telling people it's not about who wins or loses, it's about the game," Roenick said. Roenick also explained his comments about the fans were made in reaction to a question about the NHL lockout being the fault of the players. "That got my gall," he said. "We gave more back to the owners in this deal than any other sport has done. Before that question, I was talking about the game, how it was important to make it up to the fans and do something for them, and then that question came." In an interview with American cable sports network ESPN, Roenick said he was sorry for ill-considered comments. "I could have a different word choice and I apologize to any fans who I may have offended," he said. - www.cbc.ca/story/sports/national/2005/06/29/Sports/roenick050628.htmlTime for some Puppy Chow. |
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