|
|
Post by blny on Jul 1, 2006 16:06:23 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by jkr on Jul 1, 2006 16:24:48 GMT -5
It is better but why is Kubina worth 5 million /year?
They have 22 miilion tied up in 4 players - Kubina, Kaberle, McCabe & Sundin. That's half the cap.
|
|
|
|
Post by Skilly on Jul 1, 2006 16:28:30 GMT -5
The Leafs could be worse off than the Bruins when it comes to getting the role players to fill out the rest of there roster.
Sundin = 7. 6 million
McCabe = 5.75 million
Kaberle = 4.25 million
Kubina = 5 million
Gill = 2.1 million
Tucker = 1.5 million
O'Neill = 1.5 million
Kilger = 1.2 million
Ponikarovsky = 0.725 million
Belak = 0.675 million
Steen = 0.770 million
Teleqvist = 0.589 million
Raycroft = 1.35 million
That's 14 players and and 33.4 million dollars.
|
|
|
|
Post by jkr on Jul 1, 2006 16:58:12 GMT -5
The Leafs could be worse off than the Bruins when it comes to getting the role players to fill out the rest of there roster. Sundin = 7. 6 million McCabe = 6.75 million Kaberle = 4.25 million Kubina = 5 million Gill = 3.1 million Tucker = 1.5 million O'Neill = 1.5 million Kilger = 1.2 million Ponikarovsky = 0.725 million Belak = 0.675 million Steen = 0.770 million Teleqvist = 0.589 million Raycroft = 1.35 million That's 14 players and and 35.4 million dollars. I think you are a million too high on Gill & McCabe ( unless I'm wrong about the contract structure) but you make an excellent post. The leafs have a much better defense but a lot of money tied up in a few players. |
|
|
|
Post by Skilly on Jul 1, 2006 17:12:44 GMT -5
stupid nhlpa.com .... Gill is 2.1 million and McCabe is 5.75 ... will make the corrections
|
|
|
|
Post by sergejean on Jul 1, 2006 17:30:08 GMT -5
Hal Gill is just brutal. I can't see how the Laffs improved by signing him...
|
|
|
|
Post by HABSLAND on Jul 1, 2006 19:40:18 GMT -5
The Leafs had to show their fans they were for real, me thinks the Kubina signing was useless, they already have kaberle and MCabe on the PP. Kubina might become the favorite whipping boy in Leafs land pretty soon, hes good but 5 million a year is too much considering that they need some help offensively and could have made a bid for Elias. So now the Leafs have improved in one aspect of the game, the Bruins too, the Sens have at least replaced parts and the Sabres are still a good team even without Mckee, so now how will our Habs respond?  Elias, Arnott? or one of my favorites Shanahan. |
|
|
|
Post by blny on Jul 1, 2006 22:27:50 GMT -5
Hal Gill is just brutal. I can't see how the Laffs improved by signing him... Look at what will be gone. Berg, Belak, Khavanov. I expect Hal to be in the third pair with Carlo. I'm not saying their defence is great, all I'm saying is that they've improved the weakest part of their team A LOT. Do I think they overpaid? Yes. Kubina is not a $5 million per year player. It seems that was the money projected for him for some time though, so I'm not surprised he got it. |
|
|
|
Post by habmeister on Jul 2, 2006 12:58:17 GMT -5
when tucker and kilger are two of your top 4 most expensive (best?) fowards you have no chance at the playoffs. i dont care how great your defence is.
|
|
|
|
Post by jkr on Jul 2, 2006 14:05:14 GMT -5
when tucker and kilger are two of your top 4 most expensive (best?) fowards you have no chance at the playoffs. i dont care how great your defence is. Their season depends on Raycroft, if he bounces back they have a good chance at the playoffs, if he doesn't it's another long off season. |
|
|
|
Post by blny on Jul 2, 2006 17:48:21 GMT -5
when tucker and kilger are two of your top 4 most expensive (best?) fowards you have no chance at the playoffs. i dont care how great your defence is. There's the rub. They don't have the cash now to address the holes they have up front. |
|
|
|
Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jul 2, 2006 22:31:50 GMT -5
It would be very difficult for the Leafs to get worse.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2006 10:44:17 GMT -5
It would be very difficult for the Leafs to get worse. They're trying to prove you wrong, man! |
|
|
|
Post by blny on Jul 4, 2006 18:27:56 GMT -5
Say what you will, but a top three of McCabe, Kaberle, and Kubina isn't bad at all. They spent a lot to get it though. Carlo should be there full time this year. Klee is still around is he not? Gill and Klee as a third pair. It's not the best in the league, but it's not the worst anymore either.
If Raycroft returns to form he gives them a young goalie capable of a lot of games. I think they'll be better defensively this year, and likely give up fewer goals because of additions made.
|
|
|
|
Post by Skilly on Jul 4, 2006 19:00:10 GMT -5
Say what you will, but a top three of McCabe, Kaberle, and Kubina isn't bad at all. They spent a lot to get it though. Carlo should be there full time this year. Klee is still around is he not? Gill and Klee as a third pair. It's not the best in the league, but it's not the worst anymore either. If Raycroft returns to form he gives them a young goalie capable of a lot of games. I think they'll be better defensively this year, and likely give up fewer goals because of additions made. You are forgetting Pilar. He will be in the third pairing if he is still property of the Leafs ... I know he played with Sparta for a cup of coffee last year, but then he fell off the face of the earth ... did he have a season ending injury or just go back home to Europe? |
|
|
|
Post by jkr on Jul 5, 2006 7:11:15 GMT -5
Say what you will, but a top three of McCabe, Kaberle, and Kubina isn't bad at all. They spent a lot to get it though. Carlo should be there full time this year. Klee is still around is he not? Gill and Klee as a third pair. It's not the best in the league, but it's not the worst anymore either. If Raycroft returns to form he gives them a young goalie capable of a lot of games. I think they'll be better defensively this year, and likely give up fewer goals because of additions made. Klee was traded to the Devils at the deadline. Carlo C has concussion problems courtesy of Varada. He's still a question mark. |
|
|
|
Post by jkr on Jul 5, 2006 7:12:03 GMT -5
Say what you will, but a top three of McCabe, Kaberle, and Kubina isn't bad at all. They spent a lot to get it though. Carlo should be there full time this year. Klee is still around is he not? Gill and Klee as a third pair. It's not the best in the league, but it's not the worst anymore either. If Raycroft returns to form he gives them a young goalie capable of a lot of games. I think they'll be better defensively this year, and likely give up fewer goals because of additions made. You are forgetting Pilar. He will be in the third pairing if he is still property of the Leafs ... I know he played with Sparta for a cup of coffee last year, but then he fell off the face of the earth ... did he have a season ending injury or just go back home to Europe? Pilar took a lot of time off because of heart problems. Don't know if he is coming back. |
|
|
|
Post by blny on Jul 5, 2006 10:14:31 GMT -5
Forgot about the Klee deal. I hadn't counted Pilar for the reason that jkr mentioned.
|
|
|
|
Post by Skilly on Jul 5, 2006 21:43:09 GMT -5
Forgot about the Klee deal. I hadn't counted Pilar for the reason that jkr mentioned. If no Pilar ... than I would assume JFJ has to go with Brendan Bell. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2006 21:48:36 GMT -5
Forgot about the Klee deal. I hadn't counted Pilar for the reason that jkr mentioned. If no Pilar ... than I would assume JFJ has to go with Brendan Bell. Or Ian White. They have some good kids on that team; why don't they use them? |
|
|
|
Post by insomnius on Jul 21, 2006 14:14:52 GMT -5
Cuz they're the Laffs....why else?
|
|
|
|
Post by seventeen on Jul 22, 2006 13:25:21 GMT -5
Having 3 defensemen with much the same style leaves open the possibility of a trade to stengthen other areas. How about a deal between us and the Leafs for Kaberle? ;D
|
|
