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Post by Gogie on Aug 8, 2006 14:15:24 GMT -5
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Post by Forum Ghost on Aug 8, 2006 18:29:38 GMT -5
I like Dumont, he would've looked good in the CH.
I doubt Gainey goes for him though, we already have a surplus of wingers. Another one wouldn't help the situation.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Aug 8, 2006 20:15:34 GMT -5
...rumors of Dumont coming to the HABS will be a plenty...
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Post by Forum Ghost on Aug 9, 2006 0:30:49 GMT -5
It would've made sense to bring in Dumont if Gainey had not signed Samsonov.
I know that there'll be plenty of rumours, but I really can't see any room for him unless Gainey signs him and follows it up by trading one of our other players.
Or if Dumont's signed and no trade follows, then it doesn't look like there'll be any room for any rookies up front.
Either way I just don't see it happening.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Aug 9, 2006 7:27:28 GMT -5
Personally I like Samsonov better than Dumont.
Not sure how much Dumont will end up getting but a 20 goals scorer at 3mil a year is a pretty expensive asset in a cap world.
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Post by clear observer on Aug 9, 2006 8:37:10 GMT -5
I'd approach him with a 2.5 million-dollar offer.
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Post by stubbsy60 on Aug 9, 2006 9:37:21 GMT -5
I only see Gainey going after Dumont if he pulls some sort of trade involving Ryder and others for a centre and/or if he were able to dump a big salary (Bonk? although I like him and his role with the Habs) to make room.
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Post by Skilly on Aug 9, 2006 10:14:34 GMT -5
Personally I am confused why the Sabres didn't sign him. Unless the CBA explicitly states that you can not trade a player after he wins an arbitration case.
If the Sabres accepted the award and then shopped him - the Ribs (1.9 million) for Dumont (1.9 million) rumours would have been all over the place. They currently have 19 players signed (11 making over 2 million) and 38.5 million in cap space used. Unless they have a self imposed cap of 41-42 million.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Aug 9, 2006 10:34:09 GMT -5
Personally I am confused why the Sabres didn't sign him. Unless the CBA explicitly states that you can not trade a player after he wins an arbitration case. If the Sabres accepted the award and then shopped him - the Ribs (1.9 million) for Dumont (1.9 million) rumours would have been all over the place. They currently have 19 players signed (11 making over 2 million) and 38.5 million in cap space used. Unless they have a self imposed cap of 41-42 million. According to Reigher, he spoke to all 29 teams and either there was no interest or the players offered were too expensive for the Sabres. |
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Post by clear observer on Aug 9, 2006 11:30:18 GMT -5
I'd approach him with a 2.5 million-dollar offer. If he bites on this I'd then shop from our stable of offensive assets ( our position of strength) for a solid d-man. We're in deeeeep with our current crew, injured or not. CO |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Aug 9, 2006 13:30:41 GMT -5
I'd approach him with a 2.5 million-dollar offer. If he bites on this I'd then shop from our stable of offensive assets ( our position of strength) for a solid d-man. We're in deeeeep with our current crew, injured or not. CO If he can be had at the right price, than you are right, we'd be in a position of strenght to deal redundant asset in order to upgrade areas of weakness. |
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Post by Skilly on Aug 9, 2006 16:30:17 GMT -5
If we are to acquire him to trade for a d-man .... I'd offer 1.5 million. Easily to deal him and only minimally off the arbitration award.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 9, 2006 21:10:21 GMT -5
In his RDS interview, he sure says Montreal is top of his list due to family, etc. Wonder if he has a similar story to the 28 other local media calls he may have received.
I can only see Bob doing this if he has other domino moves to make, a la "CO plan" above. 20 goals in 54 games isn't bad, but it sure doesn't make me part with $2.9M of GG's refinanced money.
If the Habs do sign him, then there has to be a another personnel move or two to squeak back under the cap. If all are/will be healthy, then the Habs are playing with about $1.5M in play when you take into account 23 guys on the roster that count against the cap. Injuries and call ups will give a little wiggle room above that, but you know Gainey likely wants to keep some space come trade deadline...just in case.
We are still a big centre and a stud dman away from being a really tough team to play against right through until early June. No immediate help in the farm as most players are at least a few years away from being even close to an impact player, so the search must be outwards.
My uninformed guess is that Gainey does not bite.
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Post by Forum Ghost on Aug 9, 2006 22:31:48 GMT -5
Personally I like Samsonov better than Dumont. Not sure how much Dumont will end up getting but a 20 goals scorer at 3mil a year is a pretty expensive asset in a cap world. I would rather have Samsonov too.  And yes, I agree. For a 40 pt season, Dumont is not worth $2.9M. |
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Post by cigarviper on Aug 10, 2006 8:00:52 GMT -5
The only move that makes sense is to sign him for far less than he's worth on the open market and move a body currently making more than him but producing less while filling the same role. Not gonna happen. In other words, there's no point signing him just because he wants to play here unless he can only offer something we need or something we already have but at a cheaper price. I can't see it happening...unless you believe in "expecting the unexpected".
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Post by Skilly on Aug 10, 2006 10:41:29 GMT -5
Personally I like Samsonov better than Dumont. Not sure how much Dumont will end up getting but a 20 goals scorer at 3mil a year is a pretty expensive asset in a cap world. I would rather have Samsonov too. And yes, I agree. For a 40 pt season, Dumont is not worth $2.9M. I agree. But those 40 points came in 53 games. His durability is also an issue, but it would be good to get him and then deal for something we really need. Center or D-man. |
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Post by sergejean on Aug 10, 2006 21:31:08 GMT -5
I would rather have Samsonov too. And yes, I agree. For a 40 pt season, Dumont is not worth $2.9M. I agree. But those 40 points came in 53 games. His durability is also an issue, but it would be good to get him and then deal for something we really need. Center or D-man. I also think we should try to get him... How often to you hear players who wants to play in MTL... IMO, he would be an upgrade over Zednik... Oh! and he also had good playoffs! We could put him on one of the top two lines, play Higgins on the third line with Pleks and Perez (now that is speed!). |
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