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Post by MC Habber on Oct 4, 2006 23:40:44 GMT -5
This raises the question, in order for a player's salary not to count against the cap, does he have to be so badly injured that a doctor tells him he cannot play, or is it sufficient that his injury causes him to play badly? How many of us went into a doctor's office healthy and asked for a doctor's note ....come on fess up. Doctor's will tell you whatever you want to hear , even in trials lawyers pay doctors to give differing opinions .... If Bettman wanted to find a doctor to stop Lou from using this loophole it could have been done. I don't think it's in the league's interest to violate the rules of the CBA.... |
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Post by franko on Oct 5, 2006 5:56:48 GMT -5
Since when doe the owners take into account if something is in the league's best interests or not?
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Post by Skilly on Oct 5, 2006 7:10:09 GMT -5
I don't think it's in the league's interest to violate the rules of the CBA.... No ... but every GM in the league will tell you that when the CBA was drawn up they all were on the same page that there was no way any team could get out of not having a player over 35 counting towards their cap .... long term injury or not. That was the intent. They are in essence violating the intent of the CBA now .. but from a legal perspective Lou found a loophole (a big loophole), where even though verbally they had an intention, it is not specifically written into the CBA in a clear and concise manner. IMO, Bettman is not pushing the issue because Lou cleverly (and strategically) held his cards close and revealed them at a point in time where if the league pushed the manner, then they would be faced with the embarassing situation of forcing a team to default games. The US considers the NHL bush league now, imagine the impression with a high-profile team not allowed to play unless they unload one of their best players. |
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Post by MC Habber on Oct 6, 2006 3:43:25 GMT -5
Since when doe the owners take into account if something is in the league's best interests or not? In this case, apparently. |
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Post by BadCompany on Oct 6, 2006 12:24:05 GMT -5
Until he shows otherwise, I still think Lamoreillo is the best GM in the league. You could 'compliment' him on the Mogilny issue, but the fact is that he traded a first rounder for Jim Fahey and the rights to Koryluk. Would you make that trade if you weren't pressured? And since the pressure started from a desperate contract signing, Lamoriello's going to have to wear this one. That’s one way to look at it. Another way would be to say that he traded a first rounder for Scott Gomez, Patrick Elias, Brian Gionta and Jim Fahey. Every team has bad contracts. Lou was able to get out from his, while keeping the core of his team not only intact, but locked up long term. Tampa, Ottawa, Colorado and Philadelphia, to name a few, were not able to do the same. They all dumped key players to get under the cap. I’m quite sure Colorado would have preferred to have used Brisebois’ money to keep Rob Blake, and Turgeon’s to keep Tanguay but they couldn’t. Ditto for Tampa, with Sean Burke and Dave Andreychuk making it more difficult to sign Kubina and Sydor. The Devils did not lose anybody of significance this year, and as I said before, they are actually a better team on paper, than they were to start last year. The only thing you can ask your GM is that he make your team better and better, each year. Lou has done that. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Oct 6, 2006 14:05:23 GMT -5
Until he shows otherwise, I still think Lamoreillo is the best GM in the league. IMO, for the second straight year Lou nibbles his foot to get out of the trap he got himself into and used his prestige with the league to complete a highly questionable roster move (Mogilny's) and a highly questionable trade (a pick in exchange of cap relief). He opens back door that could weaken this CBA because he's struggling with the concept of fitting under a CAP, he himself insisted on getting and went to war for. That being said, the guy, just like Bobby Clarke, will do everything and more to tilt the balance towards himself and beat his competitors. At the end of the day, Lamoriello completed the task nobody believed possible and that is to fit his whole team under the cap. |
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Post by sergejean on Oct 6, 2006 22:53:25 GMT -5
Until he shows otherwise, I still think Lamoreillo is the best GM in the league. That being said, the guy, just like Bobby Clarke, will do everything and more to tilt the balance towards himself and beat his competitors. At the end of the day, Lamoriello completed the task nobody believed possible and that is to fit his whole team under the cap. And they responded with an impressive 4-0 win tonight... |
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Post by jkr on Oct 7, 2006 7:17:50 GMT -5
Until he shows otherwise, I still think Lamoreillo is the best GM in the league. IMO, for the second straight year Lou nibbles his foot to get out of the trap he got himself into and used his prestige with the league to complete a highly questionable roster move (Mogilny's) and a highly questionable trade (a pick in exchange of cap relief). He opens back door that could weaken this CBA because he's struggling with the concept of fitting under a CAP, he himself insisted on getting and went to war for. I said something similar earlier in the thread but not so colorfully.  People want to confer sainthood on Lou L. but he does make mistakes. Mogilny was practically ready for hip replacement while in Toronto but Jersey signed him anyway. He then gets himself into trouble with signing guys like Malakhov & McGillis & then has to tap dance to get rid of them. And these mistakes didn't take years to surface, just a matter of months. The shortcomings of these players should have been evident before they were acquired. |
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