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Post by habfan74 on Jan 27, 2006 12:48:58 GMT -5
Code is saying that the habs are trying to pkg. together Kovalev and theo. Apparently the panthers and the Oilers are the front runners, but lots of teams are interested.
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Post by Big Pete on Jan 27, 2006 12:57:57 GMT -5
Where did you heard this from?
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Post by HabSolute on Jan 27, 2006 12:58:47 GMT -5
Code is saying that the habs are trying to pkg. together Kovalev and theo. Apparently the panthers and the Oilers are the front runners, but lots of teams are interested. Who is CODE  |
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Post by habfan74 on Jan 27, 2006 13:02:18 GMT -5
Code is saying that the habs are trying to pkg. together Kovalev and theo. Apparently the panthers and the Oilers are the front runners, but lots of teams are interested. Who is CODE Code is an "insider" on another site. Ofcourse you have to take these kind of rumors with a grain of salt. |
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Post by Big Pete on Jan 27, 2006 13:06:04 GMT -5
A player that could be coming to Montreal from the Panthers in this trade would probably be Luongo.
We know that Luongo didn't accept Panthers offer because he wants out. Panthers will lose him over the summer and they know it.
So for the Panthers it makes sense.
Later Boys
I'm still curious -- What's the source of the rumour?
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Post by HabSolute on Jan 27, 2006 13:06:28 GMT -5
Not many teams can add $10 millions to their payroll !
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Post by franko on Jan 27, 2006 13:25:46 GMT -5
A player that could be coming to Montreal from the Panthers in this trade would probably be Luongo. We know that Luongo didn't accept Panthers offer because he wants out. Panthers will lose him over the summer and they know it. So for the Panthers it makes sense. I thought that Luongo has another year until he is UFA: Florida's Roberto Luongo, who completes Canada's Olympic goaltending trio, has been offered close to $30 million over five years from the Panthers but the 26-year-old doesn't want to talk contract until after the season. TSN/CP, which also says that Martin Brodeur has agreed to a $31.2-million US, six-year contract extension with the New Jersey Devils. Showing that past history does play a role in future salary, and that a good gaolie can get out of a funk and return to playing well. Hear that, Theo? |
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Post by Big Pete on Jan 27, 2006 13:42:01 GMT -5
Luongo will be RFA (Restricted free agent) That means that Luongo can deal with any team in the league but the Panthers can match the offers.
Now... the Panthers knows that lot's of teams will make offers to Luongo. Are they willing to wait and see how much money he will be oferred and try to match it OR will thay trade him this year. By trading him the Panthers got the control, If they wait for other teams offers they dont.
Anyway that's my reasonning behind my assumption that the Panthers are better off with a trade.
Later
Big Pete
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Post by franko on Jan 27, 2006 13:56:01 GMT -5
Luongo will be RFA (Restricted free agent) That means that Luongo can deal with any team in the league but the Panthers can match the offers. Now... the Panthers knows that lot's of teams will make offers to Luongo. Are they willing to wait and see how much money he will be oferred and try to match it OR will thay trade him this year. By trading him the Panthers got the control, If they wait for other teams offers they dont.
But he reiterated that he doesn't want to sign anything until the season is over.
"Last week came off wrong," Luongo told The Canadian Press before boarding a flight for Phoenix. "My main goal is to stay with the Florida Panthers. I don't want to leave here. Right now my main focus is getting this team in the playoffs."
A story in last Saturday's Sun-Sentinel in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., said Luongo had rejected an offer of close to $30 million US over five years. And Luongo was quoted as saying he didn't want to commit his future to the franchise until it proved it was serious about winning. linkLuongo "turns down" $6M a year . . . Brodeur accepts $5.2 M a year. Theo did well to sign when he did; Luongo may regret not signing. There may be offers from other teams, but they also may have second thoughts because of what they'd have to give in compensation. PLUS they can match, and Luongo is stuck in Florida. |
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Post by jkr on Jan 27, 2006 15:53:02 GMT -5
I think someone is just playing connect the dots. You have the Theodore for Luongo part - that's not news. But someone remembers that Kovavlev played for Keenan on the Rangers 94 Stanley Cup team and uses that to fuel a rumor.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jan 27, 2006 15:53:56 GMT -5
Not many teams can add $10 millions to their payroll ! Unless they unload about the same. Florida seems like an unlikely partner, if they put Luongo on the block they would end up getting formidable offers. Tampa would probably offer Richard or Lecavalier. CODE is entertaining as he's good to create rumour out of thin air but to play along with this fantasy trade, the only trading partner that comes to mind for such a deal would be St-Louis. Something along the lines of Tkachuck/Lalime for Theo/Kovy. |
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Post by stubbsy60 on Jan 27, 2006 16:09:53 GMT -5
Not many teams can add $10 millions to their payroll ! Unless they unload about the same. Florida seems like an unlikely partner, if they put Luongo on the block they would end up getting formidable offers. Tampa would probably offer Richard or Lecavalier. CODE is entertaining as he's good to create rumour out of thin air but to play along with this fantasy trade, the only trading partner that comes to mind for such a deal would be St-Louis. Something along the lines of Tkachuck/Lalime for Theo/Kovy. I have a buddy here at work who is a big Penguins fan and he thought Tho/Kovy for Fleury/Gonchar sounded fair to him. But ya, like you said, there aren't too many teams with $10 million worth of talent they would want to give up for ours. I generally like to hear what Code has to say as somehow he tends to hit trades on the more often than not, but not sure of his true validity. |
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Post by jimmyjazz on Jan 27, 2006 20:21:51 GMT -5
Not many teams can add $10 millions to their payroll ! That's the main problem I think... In the end it would just be an exchange of problematic contracts. Right now I'd love to see both go, but no one will take both their contracts. Still, always fun to speculate on a new rumour eheh:P |
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Post by MTLMan on Jan 27, 2006 21:52:19 GMT -5
What site does Code post on?
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Post by cigarviper on Jan 27, 2006 22:29:57 GMT -5
I hope they're not the only ones on the block.
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Post by lare k on Jan 27, 2006 22:39:55 GMT -5
i wouldnt be surprised if almost any player
could be had for the right price
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 28, 2006 0:15:19 GMT -5
Let's say it was true.
No coincidence that Gainey would want to deal our two highest paid, and therefore most non-bang-for-buck performers.
And who knows what kind of mood they bring into the room with them.
Just saying if it's true.....that's all. All speculation...just like this trade rumour.
I for one would love to see either of Luongo or M.A. Fleury here. I'd side with Fleury....he's young and ready to hit it real big.
Kovalev's water bottle stickhandling display is nice on fan day.....but it hasn't seemed to be working much in a game lately.
Love to see both he and Theo sting the Leafs tomorrow, though.
EDIT: Sunday, Jan. 29. And they did.
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Post by TheHabsfan on Jan 28, 2006 7:25:32 GMT -5
Not many teams can add $10 millions to their payroll ! Unless they unload about the same. Florida seems like an unlikely partner, if they put Luongo on the block they would end up getting formidable offers. Tampa would probably offer Richard or Lecavalier. CODE is entertaining as he's good to create rumour out of thin air but to play along with this fantasy trade, the only trading partner that comes to mind for such a deal would be St-Louis. Something along the lines of Tkachuck/Lalime for Theo/Kovy. I know Code. He told me about Kovalev resigning (among others) 4 hours before it was announced. If he says something is happening, I believe him. THF |
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Post by Yeti on Jan 28, 2006 7:46:38 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Jan 28, 2006 9:21:41 GMT -5
Giguere had an argument with Randy CArlyle at the bench after he took his second penalty. He just skated over & punched Ryan Smyth - pretty stupid. The ducks lost the game on some Oiler PP goals. He carries a pretty hefty price tag I think. I can't get into nhlpa.com right now to check. EDIT: just checked nhlpa.com. He is making 3.9 this year but I don't know the length of the contract. |
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Post by stubbsy60 on Jan 28, 2006 10:08:01 GMT -5
He actually took 2 roughing, a tripping, and was assesed a 10 minute misconduct for 16 minutes in penalties all in 28 seconds. At the point of his explosion it was a one goal game. It was actually pretty funny to watch  |
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Post by Forum Ghost on Jan 30, 2006 12:56:21 GMT -5
CODE is entertaining as he's good to create rumour out of thin air but to play along with this fantasy trade, the only trading partner that comes to mind for such a deal would be St-Louis. Something along the lines of Tkachuck/Lalime for Theo/Kovy. St. Louis could be a partner, but I would hope for something better than Tkachuk and Lalime for Theo and Kovy. Tkachuk is injury-prone and Lalime is playing in the AHL right now, isn't he? I think that a trade with TBay could be realistic. Something where Lecavalier and Grahame end up in Montreal. |
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Post by mic on Jan 30, 2006 13:42:02 GMT -5
If Gainey really wants to move both Theodore and Kovalev, then he did quite a poor job during the last summer. I mean, he signed both players to the highest wage in the team's history, only to discover a few months later that they aren't a good fit? I'm not here to say if trading these two players is a good or a bad thing for the team, but you'd have to wonder if Gainey really thought enough about these signings. If you sign two players to heavy long-term contracts (in a cap world), you better consider them worth it.
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Post by Forum Ghost on Jan 30, 2006 14:13:58 GMT -5
I don't see any reason why he would need to trade Kovalev. Kovy is not playing below expectations. He's close to a PPG and has been so all season. Lately, he's been getting into funks, but he's shown that he can win games by himself and that he can be a dominant force on this team.
Trading Kovalev would be a big mistake for Gainey. The Habs are a much different team without him in the lineup and if Gainey trades him, he would need to get a similar type of forward in return.
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