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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 1, 2006 19:54:24 GMT -5
Internet based:
Theodore to Colorado
Laperriere and Denis to montreal
Hinote & Fritsche to columbus.
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Post by franko on Feb 1, 2006 20:15:09 GMT -5
A goalie with a 3.36 GA for a goalie with a 3.36 GA and a LW that does not help our D, which is a more desperate need (though it does clear up 1.6M).
No.
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Post by jkr on Feb 1, 2006 20:54:37 GMT -5
Internet based:Theodore to Colorado Laperriere and Denis to montreal Hinote & Fritsche to columbus. Dan Fritsche is already Columbus property and playing in the AHL right now. |
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Post by Marvin on Feb 1, 2006 20:58:43 GMT -5
So who does that leave to tend goal for Columbus? I don't believe that Colorado would trade Laperriere. He's been great for them this year.
Marvin
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Post by jkr on Feb 1, 2006 21:03:07 GMT -5
So who does that leave to tend goal for Columbus? I don't believe that Colorado would trade Laperriere. He's been great for them this year. Marvin Whoever made this one up has given Pascal Leclaire the #1 job.  |
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Post by Ryan on Feb 1, 2006 21:48:04 GMT -5
The source is supposedly Tom Fritsche, a Colorado 2nd rounder from this past draft. 19 year old brother of Dan Fritsche (Columbus), and very highly rated prospect. He showed very well in WJC this year for the US.
Fans here in Kitchener know all about Tom as the Rangers drafted him in the OHL priority draft this past year and there were very strong rumours that he was going to leave the NCAA to join the Rangers.
Take it for what it's worth I guess. To be perfectly honest we'd end up with a warrior in Laperriere and you simply can't get much worse than Theo right now, so Denis is a cheap upgrade. The real prize at this point is getting out from under Theo's contract.
Laperriere is in the 2nd year (signed prior to the lock-out) of a 3 year $4.2 mil contract.
Denis is making almost $1.7 mil this year, not sure what's left on his deal though.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 1, 2006 22:11:18 GMT -5
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Post by Cranky on Feb 1, 2006 22:21:57 GMT -5
This makes sense and it allows us to also afford Richards.
If both of these scenario play out, then it's going to make Gainey into a GOD!
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Post by stubbsy60 on Feb 2, 2006 0:15:16 GMT -5
I actually had the chance to watch Denis is person last NHL season in Columbus and I can tell you that the Blue Jacket fans don't like 'em very much. To me they seemed a little harsh since they said he is amazing but has the knack for letting in that one backbreaking weak goal that kills the team. (sound like any goalie in Montreal right now that we all know?) The night I was there he stood on his head making 35 saves including many accrobatic one's; however, he let in 2 super softies that in the end cost them a 3-2 loss.
All that said, I still think it would be worth the risk to pick up Laperrier as well and shed Theo's sallary. The tough part for me personally is that I am a huge Theo fan and I know he will come back to burn us at some point. My only concern is that he isn't going to be able to turn this thing around while with the Habs.
*Added note: did anyone see how well Denis played against Calgary tonight? For those who didn't, he was superb making 36 saves on 27 shots and also stopped Amonte and Iginla on shootout shots to win 2-1.
*Second Added Note: Anyone see how good Danis was in the AHL All Star Game tonight? He let in one and made many a great save including a lightning fast glove save on a breakaway in tight.
I like the sound of a Denis/Danis tandum. LOL
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Post by Forum Ghost on Feb 2, 2006 7:34:46 GMT -5
We get rid of Theo and end up with Laperriere and Denis?
Not bad. The return is not too shabby considering Theo's struggles this year and, more importantly, Gainey gets rid of Theo's albatross contract.
I would do it.
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Post by Ryan on Feb 2, 2006 9:16:32 GMT -5
For what it's worth, last night on the message board in question (www.beckett.com tinyurl.com/9zyzp) Alexandre Pratt from Cyberpresse requested Tom to send him an e-mail (apratt@lapresse.ca) This morning Cyberpresse has decided to go ahead with the story. No word on if Alexandre actually received an e-mail from Tom or not. tinyurl.com/7haraEdit: According to Alexandre, he did receive an e-mail from Tom... Exactly, and I'm not necessarily convinced of this one, just wanted to see if it was actually Tom or not. Thanks for your quick response, I appreciate it. Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: Pratt, Alexandre To: 'Ryan Martin' Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 9:15 AM Subject: RE: Tom Fritsche Yes, he did e-mail me. Everything seems legite. That being said, there are trade talks everyday in NHL. This is just one other. -----Message d'origine----- De : Ryan Martin [mailto:ryan@astro-logistics.com] Envoyé : 2 février, 2006 09:14 À : apratt@lapresse.ca Objet : Tom Fritsche Hi Alexandre, Just a question for you, did Tom ever e-mail you last night? If so, were you able to confirm his identity? Thanks, Ryan |
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Post by Polarice on Feb 2, 2006 9:22:07 GMT -5
This rumour has legs, I think I've read it on just about every Hockey site this morning.
Whether that makes it more plausible is another thing.
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Post by habfan74 on Feb 2, 2006 9:53:12 GMT -5
If I had the choice between this trade and the Richards deal....I would make the trade for Richards even if there wasn't a goalie coming back our way.
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Post by Cranky on Feb 2, 2006 10:28:29 GMT -5
I'll tell you what's odd about this exchange. The players know that GM's don't want things to get out there so this guy yapping away is VERY ODD.
The fastest way a site can attract attention and posters is to have "insiders" post scoups. The problem of course is that "scoups" are rare and on top of that, exposing the scoup also exposes the source. Unless the source is masochistic and likes his butt to be kicked by the GM, a source (players/agents/manager) is never going to go on sports board and announce a trade.
If a GM has permission to negotiate or renegotiate a contract of another teams player, do you think that he wants every other team in the league to know about it? If a GM is trying to set up a trade and it falls through, does he wants the player to know about it and that player not giving a sh*t afterwards?
99% of these rumours are speculations and extrapolations.
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Post by cigarviper on Feb 2, 2006 10:36:06 GMT -5
...meanwhile, according to P.J.Stock, the Canadiens have apparently announced a press conference tomorrow...
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Post by Cranky on Feb 2, 2006 10:38:43 GMT -5
...meanwhile, according to P.J.Stock, the Canadiens have apparently announced a press conference tomorrow... Good thing I said 99%...LOL. Let's just hope we didn't get screwed. |
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Post by HabSolute on Feb 2, 2006 10:52:26 GMT -5
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Post by franko on Feb 2, 2006 11:09:19 GMT -5
...meanwhile, according to P.J.Stock, the Canadiens have apparently announced a press conference tomorrow... Maybe the GM is going to fire the coach, who hasn't been a roaring success since firing CJ. |
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Post by blny on Feb 2, 2006 11:10:19 GMT -5
This was on hfboards. They locked that thread eventually.
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Post by Habit on Feb 2, 2006 12:09:44 GMT -5
This was on hfboards. They locked that thread eventually. They have since opened it again, as Cyberpress has picked up the story. Ahhh the internet, gotta love it. No secrets here. |
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Post by habmeister on Feb 2, 2006 12:27:35 GMT -5
what percent of trade "rumours" like these actually end up coming to fruition? 1%  ? but i'd seriously consider it, don't know if i'd do it though, i think i'd give theo until the deadline to turn himself around. |
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Post by blny on Feb 2, 2006 12:28:15 GMT -5
Here's my take. Despite Theo's play, he's the most talented player in the deal. I think we'd all agree on that. So, what are we getting? We're getting a goalie in Denis, that's only a year younger than Theo. While cheaper, Marc has never shown what Theo has, and if he was going to he would have by now. As poor as Theo is playing, his ceiling is much higher than Denis'. So, what do we do with Denis? Are we prepared to platoon him? If so, is that with Huet for the rest of this year, and Danis next? Huet being a UFA at seasons end may not be back. Do we use the money saved from getting rid of Theo to get another #1 (cause Denis aint it)? That means you have two backups again, as all of Danis's play indicates he's about ready to make the jump. IF the goalie Montreal wants is truly Luongo, they either have to ante up and trade for him soon, or wait a year til he's a UFA. Are we prepared to be a platoon goalie team? It doesn't often work.
I like the idea of getting Laperierre. He'd add a pile of grit, versatility, and make others expendable. It doesn't however address our shortcomings on defence. One step at a time yes, but I would think that Gainey would be looking to plug glaring holes first.
From Colorado's point of view, does it make sense? They give up two checking players in Hinote and Lappy for a goalie that will likely put them over the cap. If Theo doesn't, it's darn close. Then, they have to look to trade Aebischer quick because they're in a 3 goalie triangle again. David's play has been good of late, so that's another reason to shoot down Colorado's interest.
Why would Columbus be an apparent intermediary? In giving up Denis, and not getting a goalie in return, it means they hand over the reigns to Leclaire. Various reports indicate the Jackets aren't ready to put that burden on Pascal yet.
Now, if Aebischer, Denis, and Theo were involved the deal becomes that much more plausible IMO.
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Post by Habit on Feb 2, 2006 14:28:48 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Feb 2, 2006 17:32:13 GMT -5
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Post by franko on Feb 2, 2006 17:50:54 GMT -5
Can we put this puppy to bed now and get back to more important stuff . . . like tonight's game, and HA's visit to the hospital to heal the injuries from the attack of the barbed-wire?
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Post by Habit on Feb 3, 2006 1:20:16 GMT -5
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Post by Yeti on Feb 3, 2006 6:09:18 GMT -5
My fear is that they will trade Danis. Good and cheap so he's attractive to other GMs.
Not here, no Sir. Our franchise goaltender is only 29. Vokun, Garon and Danis, all gone??
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Post by blny on Feb 3, 2006 9:05:23 GMT -5
My fear is that they will trade Danis. Good and cheap so he's attractive to other GMs. No one wants bad and expensive?  |
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Post by cigarviper on Feb 3, 2006 13:25:15 GMT -5
My fear is that they will trade Danis. Good and cheap so he's attractive to other GMs. Not here, no Sir. Our franchise goaltender is only 29. Vokun, Garon and Danis, all gone?? As someone else stated elsewhere, I believe Theo will be given some time off to get his senses back. Go to Tibet and ask the omnipresent one to help rid him of the demons that possess his sole. He'll probably be back after the Olympic break and all will be well. Then Gainey can trade his ass outta here! |
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Post by Habit on Feb 3, 2006 13:37:10 GMT -5
Maybe Theo can go up to Roy's QMJHL Team and get some pointers. And not the ones that involve talking to the team president after getting pulled. I'm talking about between the pipes advice.
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