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Post by TheHabsfan on Feb 20, 2006 9:12:51 GMT -5
Heard yesterday that Habs tendered an offer for Sopel. He is a solid right D that is currently being shopped by the Isles.
THF
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Post by Forum Ghost on Feb 20, 2006 12:42:31 GMT -5
I'd pass on Sopel. There are better defencemen out there.
I don't think that Sopel would be a major improvement on anyone the Habs have right now. Also, Sopel's prone to making major defensive errors.
I believe he was a whipping boy of sorts when he was with the Canucks.
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Post by blny on Feb 20, 2006 13:38:16 GMT -5
Source?
I'm with FG. Sopel isn't a good enough puck mover to make up for his shortcomings.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 20, 2006 15:14:31 GMT -5
The source is that CODE guy. He let on that Gainey did an offer for both Witt and Sopel.
Kinda weird that Gainey would take either in my opinion as they're not at all the same player.
Like others, I fail to see what Sopel would bring that we don't already have...
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Post by Polarice on Feb 20, 2006 15:19:46 GMT -5
The source is that CODE guy. He let on that Gainey did an offer for both Witt and Sopel. Kinda weird that Gainey would take either in my opinion as they're not at all the same player. Like others, I fail to see what Sopel would bring that we don't already have... Agreed...apparently Ribs is the player "rumoured" to be going the other way. |
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Post by TheHabsfan on Feb 20, 2006 15:25:45 GMT -5
The source is that CODE guy. He let on that Gainey did an offer for both Witt and Sopel. Kinda weird that Gainey would take either in my opinion as they're not at all the same player. Like others, I fail to see what Sopel would bring that we don't already have... I am curious...who would you personnally want Gainey to get, who is currently available? There aren't too many "ideal" guys out there... Maybe we can send Bob an email!  THF |
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Post by jkr on Feb 20, 2006 18:05:39 GMT -5
The source is that CODE guy. He let on that Gainey did an offer for both Witt and Sopel. Kinda weird that Gainey would take either in my opinion as they're not at all the same player. Like others, I fail to see what Sopel would bring that we don't already have... I don't want to sound sarcastic - this is not the way I mean it. Can someone please provide an instance of CODE being right? It would help me in mesuring his creds. The info would have to be pretty deep inside the organization to know who Gainey was pursuing. |
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Post by IamCanadiens on Feb 20, 2006 20:07:03 GMT -5
Canuck fans either loved him or hated him. He can certainly put up some decent numbers but he is atrocious in his own zone and turns the puck over constantly. Not exactly what the Habs need.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 20, 2006 20:50:50 GMT -5
Agreed...apparently Ribs is the player "rumoured" to be going the other way. This is so funny; I actually saw how this rumour took shape: It was about 2 months ago on a show called "Au dessus de la melée". They had there Quintal, Bob Pernod (Ribs agent) and some other guy (I don't recall...) Anyway they were talking about leadership and they eventually slipped on Ribeiro who, at the time, was heavily struggling under Julien, being bounced from line to line and being cut for the lineup. The show host told Pernod that some people believed Mike Ribeiro had no value at all... At that point Pernod busted out laughing and said "...don't you think a team like Washington would want a playmaker like Ribeiro to feed a scorer like Ovechkin ?...". That's it. He didn't mean it as a rumour or anything he just took an example of a team with no playmaker to illustrate the point that his client Ribeiro, could find a niche on a team looking for his toolset. A few days later Ribeiro to Washington rumours started popping here and there on the net... To this day, IMO, Washington rumors have no other root than Ribs's agent mentioning Washington out of thin air ... |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 20, 2006 20:59:05 GMT -5
I am curious...who would you personnally want Gainey to get, who is currently available? There aren't too many "ideal" guys out there... Maybe we can send Bob an email! THF Salei, Cullimore, Gauthier and Witt would all be nice but Witt will probably be very pricey. |
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Post by TheHabsfan on Feb 20, 2006 21:09:52 GMT -5
I am curious...who would you personnally want Gainey to get, who is currently available? There aren't too many "ideal" guys out there... Maybe we can send Bob an email! THF Salei, Cullimore, Gauthier and Witt would all be nice but Witt will probably be very pricey. I don't like Cullimore, but the rest I would take. They are all tough d-men, and they are nice to have. However, I would try and get an offensive minded d-man to play the PP with Markov. THF |
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Post by Polarice on Feb 21, 2006 7:18:50 GMT -5
I don't want to sound sarcastic - this is not the way I mean it. Can someone please provide an instance of CODE being right? It would help me in measuring his creds. The info would have to be pretty deep inside the organization to know who Gainey was pursuing. You have to remember its just rumours, Taylor is a pretty good guy and if he says teams are looking at certain players then you can be certain he's telling the truth. As far as measuring his creds, when he confirms a rumour, he must be around 90% accurate. Here's a link to the website: www.hockeynations.com/forums/Check it out for yourself. BTW, he bet his house that Richards would be a Hab this summer. |
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Post by mic on Feb 21, 2006 7:28:11 GMT -5
Canuck fans either loved him or hated him. He can certainly put up some decent numbers but he is atrocious in his own zone and turns the puck over constantly. A poor's man Hainsey? |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 21, 2006 12:25:36 GMT -5
You have to remember its just rumours... Absolutely right. We encourage people to bring what they stumble on as far as rumors because it's usually pretty fun to discuss around it. The credibility of the source on the other hand is left to each posters to evaluate on their own. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 21, 2006 12:31:12 GMT -5
However, I would try and get an offensive minded d-man to play the PP with Markov. which would be adressed by the Sopel deal. I think that indeed ou PP can certainly use Patrice Brisebois some dmen capable of pivoting it. In a perfect world, guys like Rivet and Bouillon would never see PP minutes. I would think more was expected from Dandeneault and Souray and I would not be suprised to see one or both gone when Gainey retools our D. |
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Post by blny on Feb 21, 2006 12:47:03 GMT -5
If you get Sopel, with the state of our defence, I think you have to immediately start looking to add another defenceman to bolster the defensive capabilities of the unit. I think we can be shakey enough - though I don't blame it entirely on our defencemen. Adding Sopel would help the PP, but at what cost??
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Post by jkr on Feb 21, 2006 13:50:09 GMT -5
I don't want to sound sarcastic - this is not the way I mean it. Can someone please provide an instance of CODE being right? It would help me in measuring his creds. The info would have to be pretty deep inside the organization to know who Gainey was pursuing. You have to remember its just rumours, Taylor is a pretty good guy and if he says teams are looking at certain players then you can be certain he's telling the truth. As far as measuring his creds, when he confirms a rumour, he must be around 90% accurate. Here's a link to the website: www.hockeynations.com/forums/Check it out for yourself. BTW, he bet his house that Richards would be a Hab this summer. Thanks for the link. I'll have a look. I hope he stills has a place to live this sunner.  |
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Post by Polarice on Feb 21, 2006 13:55:12 GMT -5
However, I would try and get an offensive minded d-man to play the PP with Markov. which would be adressed by the Sopel deal. I think that indeed ou PP can certainly use Patrice Brisebois some dmen capable of pivoting it. In a perfect world, guys like Rivet and Bouillon would never see PP minutes. I would think more was expected from Dandeneault and Souray and I would not be suprised to see one or both gone when Gainey retools our D. I agree, we should have kept Brisebois, the price was right. Nobody really had a problem with his play, it was the amount of money he was making. |
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Post by TheHabsfan on Feb 21, 2006 14:49:20 GMT -5
which would be adressed by the Sopel deal. I think that indeed ou PP can certainly use Patrice Brisebois some dmen capable of pivoting it. In a perfect world, guys like Rivet and Bouillon would never see PP minutes. I would think more was expected from Dandeneault and Souray and I would not be suprised to see one or both gone when Gainey retools our D. I agree, we should have kept Brisebois, the price was right. Nobody really had a problem with his play, it was the amount of money he was making. Hmmm...well, Breezy's top season was 36 points...hardly an offensive specialist! Although his numbers aren't all that bad, there are better d-men out there, we just have to want to pay for them. I, for one, don't miss his defensive blunders! THF |
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Post by Vinna on Feb 21, 2006 16:46:38 GMT -5
I think the best thing to improve our defence would be to bring back Eric Weinrich.
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Post by blny on Feb 21, 2006 19:10:10 GMT -5
I think the best thing to improve our defence would be to bring back Eric Weinrich. Maybe 5 or 6 years ago. |
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Post by Vinna on Feb 23, 2006 16:34:30 GMT -5
still better than Daigle....ugh  |
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