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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 19, 2006 8:16:23 GMT -5
Hmm, if a fairly reputable site like TSN is putting up this kind of garbage, it shows you how little there is to most of these rumours. Have they mentioned it on their telecast? If it's only on their blog then they're probably treating it like an Internet rumour. Or Garrioch's column  Cheers. |
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Post by TheHabsfan on Dec 19, 2006 14:30:52 GMT -5
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Dec 19, 2006 14:55:35 GMT -5
= THF The Man from Glad You Don't Write for My Paper? |
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Post by duster on Dec 19, 2006 15:36:28 GMT -5
Go get 'em buddy!!! Educate the man. bruce.garrioch@ott.sunpub.com alright i just sent it off, i hope he can get past my 2nd comment. i'm sure he'll read it and hopefully a lot more of this board for more juicy rumours to write about. It would be interesting to know what he says. A couple of years ago, I sent him an email questioning his so-called sources and got a long and very defensive reply stating his "sources" were beyond reproach. |
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Post by MC Habber on Dec 19, 2006 16:29:55 GMT -5
alright i just sent it off, i hope he can get past my 2nd comment. i'm sure he'll read it and hopefully a lot more of this board for more juicy rumours to write about. It would be interesting to know what he says. A couple of years ago, I sent him an email questioning his so-called sources and got a long and very defensive reply stating his "sources" were beyond reproach. I'd like to know what "source" told him Higgins was centering the second line before he got injured.... |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Dec 19, 2006 17:18:11 GMT -5
It would be interesting to know what he says. A couple of years ago, I sent him an email questioning his so-called sources and got a long and very defensive reply stating his "sources" were beyond reproach. I'd like to know what "source" told him Higgins was centering the second line before he got injured.... Sounds like he misinterpreted my recommendation. He should read HabsRus instead of just scanning it. |
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Post by MC Habber on Dec 19, 2006 19:12:57 GMT -5
I'd like to know what "source" told him Higgins was centering the second line before he got injured.... Sounds like he misinterpreted my recommendation. He should read HabsRus instead of just scanning it. He could also try watching a game now and again.... |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 20, 2006 11:22:18 GMT -5
= THF Pretty sure Garrioch has seen this by now ... MacLean quashes rumor The Sun newspaper chain in Canada reported in Sunday’s editions that the Montreal Canadiens have interest in center Sergei Fedorov, and that president and general manager Doug MacLean would be willing to listen to offers. "I have no intention or desire to trade Sergei Fedorov," MacLean said yesterday. "He’s an unbelievably important part of our club, with guys like (Dan) Fritsche, (Gilbert) Brule, and all of our young guys. "I’ve been hearing this stuff (out of Canada) for two days now, and it’s crazy. I’ve not had one conversation with them, and I’ve got no interest in listening. I’m not trading Sergei Fedorov." Fedorov is under contract for $6.08 million through 2007-08. [/i] The real scoop |
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Post by MC Habber on Dec 21, 2006 14:38:55 GMT -5
Jack Todd chimes in: A more serious example of both bad journalism and disrespect came in the Sunday edition of the Ottawa Sun, when a columnist wrote:
"The Canadiens are looking for help at centre and could be eyeing veteran Sergei Fedorov. Some whispers out of Montreal last week had the Habs looking at bringing in Fedorov to help the club try to stay in the playoff race."
First, "whispers out of Montreal" would suggest that Pierre Gauthier, acting as GM while Bob Gainey mourns the death of his daughter, has suddenly starting blabbing state secrets. Since Gauthier was already famous for playing his cards close to the vest even before he started working for the notoriously tight-lipped Gainey, that is highly unlikely. So is the assertion that the Canadiens would be thinking in any way of making a blockbuster deal before Gainey returns.
As for the line about helping the club "try to stay in the playoff race," we can only assume that our colleague in Ottawa can't read the standings. Had the Sun written "try to secure home-ice advantage for the first round of the playoffs" or even "try to finish first in the Eastern Conference," it might have made some sense.
"Since Christopher Higgins went down with a sprained left ankle on Nov. 4, the club has lacked offensive production at the No. 2 centre spot," the Sun went on.
The Canadiens may have been looking for more offensive production from the second line -- but Higgins had nothing to do with it one way or another. He has played the entire season at left wing on the first line, not at centre on the second line. The high ankle sprain that cost him 19 games might have hurt the club, but it did not affect the second line.
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Post by franko on Dec 21, 2006 15:06:51 GMT -5
Jack Todd chimes in: A more serious example of both bad journalism and disrespect came in the Sunday edition of the Ottawa Sun, Talk about the pot calling the kettle black . . . |
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Post by MC Habber on Dec 21, 2006 15:45:44 GMT -5
Jack Todd chimes in: A more serious example of both bad journalism and disrespect came in the Sunday edition of the Ottawa Sun, Talk about the pot calling the kettle black . . . Hey, maybe Brisebois really did try to run him over. |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Dec 21, 2006 16:01:43 GMT -5
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black . . . Hey, maybe Brisebois really did try to run him over. Oh well, that's all pee on a tree now. |
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Post by Skilly on Dec 21, 2006 18:30:34 GMT -5
I am telling you Jack Todd reads this site and I am sueing for copyright infringement.  |
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Post by jkr on Dec 21, 2006 19:36:00 GMT -5
Jack Todd chimes in: A more serious example of both bad journalism and disrespect came in the Sunday edition of the Ottawa Sun, Talk about the pot calling the kettle black . . . Todd may not be your cup of tea but he can't compare to Garrioch. Garrioch is a lazy hack that doesn't do his homework & has been writing unfounded trade rumors for years. He's a disgrace but exactly what I expect from a Sun newspaper. His columns belong in the National Enquirer, not a city newspaper. |
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Post by seventeen on Dec 21, 2006 20:32:55 GMT -5
Even the Enquirer is too classy for him.
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Post by MC Habber on Dec 22, 2006 1:26:59 GMT -5
Garrioch once accused Alfredsson of peeing in his corn flakes. |
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Post by seventeen on Dec 22, 2006 1:51:20 GMT -5
Garrioch once accused Alfredsson of peeing in his corn flakes. Alfredsson's or Garrioch's? |
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Post by CentreHice on Dec 22, 2006 12:51:49 GMT -5
Even the Enquirer is too classy for him. Not that I read this pulp, but an interesting fact to me..... Do you know that Carol Burnett is the only person to have ever successfully sued the Enquirer for libel? What they report (although trashily written) is basically true....or can't be proven false....at least not worth the legal fees to fight it. Wide line there, I admit. It's the other tabloids like the Globe, the Examiner....they've all been sued successfully numerous times. The Enquirer started up Weekly World News as a parody of themselves...like Batboy, World War II bomber found on the moon, etc. That stuff must be fun to come up with...even more fun to watch people buy it at the grocery checkout. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 22, 2006 14:59:00 GMT -5
Jack Todd chimes in: A more serious example of both bad journalism and disrespect came in the Sunday edition of the Ottawa Sun, when a columnist wrote:
"The Canadiens are looking for help at centre and could be eyeing veteran Sergei Fedorov. Some whispers out of Montreal last week had the Habs looking at bringing in Fedorov to help the club try to stay in the playoff race."
First, "whispers out of Montreal" would suggest that Pierre Gauthier, acting as GM while Bob Gainey mourns the death of his daughter, has suddenly starting blabbing state secrets. Since Gauthier was already famous for playing his cards close to the vest even before he started working for the notoriously tight-lipped Gainey, that is highly unlikely. So is the assertion that the Canadiens would be thinking in any way of making a blockbuster deal before Gainey returns.
As for the line about helping the club "try to stay in the playoff race," we can only assume that our colleague in Ottawa can't read the standings. Had the Sun written "try to secure home-ice advantage for the first round of the playoffs" or even "try to finish first in the Eastern Conference," it might have made some sense.
"Since Christopher Higgins went down with a sprained left ankle on Nov. 4, the club has lacked offensive production at the No. 2 centre spot," the Sun went on.
The Canadiens may have been looking for more offensive production from the second line -- but Higgins had nothing to do with it one way or another. He has played the entire season at left wing on the first line, not at centre on the second line. The high ankle sprain that cost him 19 games might have hurt the club, but it did not affect the second line.
Canadiens not getting enough respectWell, Jack Todd does shoot from the hip; always has. Would love to hear Garrioch's reaction to this. Can't figure out why the guy is still working as a sports journalist. He's been wrong way too many times. Cheers. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2006 15:35:42 GMT -5
A minor example was the Associated Press game story out of Buffalo, which was picked up by ESPN, telling us that "Brian" Higgins had scored two goals for the winning Canadiens. Way to go, Brian.
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Post by insomnius on Dec 22, 2006 16:41:56 GMT -5
Anytime I hear a rumour about an imminent trade involving the Habs I dismiss it categorically. The Gainey era Habs have been utterly unpredictable in their moves and have made most moves well under the radar.
Garrioch is just in the business of selling newspapers - not reporting the truth...
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Post by Toronthab on Dec 24, 2006 17:48:39 GMT -5
Even the Enquirer is too classy for him. Not that I read this pulp, but an interesting fact to me..... Do you know that Carol Burnett is the only person to have ever successfully sued the Enquirer for libel? What they report (although trashily written) is basically true....or can't be proven false....at least not worth the legal fees to fight it. Wide line there, I admit. It's the other tabloids like the Globe, the Examiner....they've all been sued successfully numerous times. The Enquirer started up Weekly World News as a parody of themselves...like Batboy, World War II bomber found on the moon, etc. That stuff must be fun to come up with...even more fun to watch people buy it at the grocery checkout. I used to laugh until I met the real chicken-headed lady. |
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Post by jkr on Dec 26, 2006 16:25:12 GMT -5
Jack Todd chimes in: A more serious example of both bad journalism and disrespect came in the Sunday edition of the Ottawa Sun, when a columnist wrote:
"The Canadiens are looking for help at centre and could be eyeing veteran Sergei Fedorov. Some whispers out of Montreal last week had the Habs looking at bringing in Fedorov to help the club try to stay in the playoff race."
First, "whispers out of Montreal" would suggest that Pierre Gauthier, acting as GM while Bob Gainey mourns the death of his daughter, has suddenly starting blabbing state secrets. Since Gauthier was already famous for playing his cards close to the vest even before he started working for the notoriously tight-lipped Gainey, that is highly unlikely. So is the assertion that the Canadiens would be thinking in any way of making a blockbuster deal before Gainey returns.
As for the line about helping the club "try to stay in the playoff race," we can only assume that our colleague in Ottawa can't read the standings. Had the Sun written "try to secure home-ice advantage for the first round of the playoffs" or even "try to finish first in the Eastern Conference," it might have made some sense.
"Since Christopher Higgins went down with a sprained left ankle on Nov. 4, the club has lacked offensive production at the No. 2 centre spot," the Sun went on.
The Canadiens may have been looking for more offensive production from the second line -- but Higgins had nothing to do with it one way or another. He has played the entire season at left wing on the first line, not at centre on the second line. The high ankle sprain that cost him 19 games might have hurt the club, but it did not affect the second line.
Canadiens not getting enough respectCan't figure out why the guy is still working as a sports journalist. He's been wrong way too many times. Cheers. I assume by "the guy" you mean Garrioch. |
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Post by franko on Dec 27, 2006 17:23:05 GMT -5
Just heard Garrioch on the Sens pre-game show about this; he said
"The first time I listen to Jack Todd will be the last", and "I deleted a number of e-mails from Habs fans without reading them".
Then on to Bonk playing for a contract next year (admitting that he is playing well, but only because he is motivated to).
Nothing -- absolutely nothing -- about Fedorov.
Credibility continues to sink.
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Post by jkr on Dec 27, 2006 22:14:30 GMT -5
Just heard Garrioch on the Sens pre-game show about this; he said "The first time I listen to Jack Todd will be the last", and "I deleted a number of e-mails from Habs fans without reading them". Then on to Bonk playing for a contract next year (admitting that he is playing well, but only because he is motivated to). Nothing -- absolutely nothing -- about Fedorov. Credibility continues to sink. What a moron. How does he know the mail is from a Habs fan without reading it first? And why does he assume it's always negative? And why are the Sens broadcasters talking about this before a Sens/Isles game?  |
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Post by franko on Dec 27, 2006 22:43:27 GMT -5
And why are the Sens broadcasters talking about this before a Sens/Isles game? Actually, it was the Sens pre-pre-game show. Kind of a filler between the WJs and the Sens pre-game. They usually talk briefly about every game that night. And they did admit the Habs were on fire. But that without a second line centre they would be hard pressed to continue to win. I would think they'd be more worried about the Sens inability to win (they are). |
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Post by seventeen on Dec 29, 2006 16:17:05 GMT -5
Just heard Garrioch on the Sens pre-game show about this; he said "The first time I listen to Jack Todd will be the last... ok, what exactly does he mean by that? He not only spouts rumours like dandelion fluff, he can't string a proper sentence together. Will he have a fatal heart attack if he listens to Jack Todd?, or will he go irrreparably deaf? Has he never read any of Jack Todd's work? Ok, I'm biased...and I admit....I delete all of Bruce Garrioch's e-mails without reading them. He is the guy sending all those Viagra, special girlfriend offers, isn't he? |
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Post by seventeen on Dec 29, 2006 16:22:16 GMT -5
And they did admit the Habs were on fire. But that without a second line centre they would be hard pressed to continue to win. Quite the conclusion. Without a real goalie, Anaheim will be hard pressed to win too. In any case, we seem to be continuing to win. I actually think Samsanov's play is hurting us more than Plekanec's play on the 2nd line. Put Latendresse there and let's see what happens. He'd actually be perfect for that line. He goes to the net, forces d-men to pay attention and that physical presence would open the ice for both Kovalev and Plekanec. That line is too cute by one third. |
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