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Post by MC Habber on Dec 17, 2006 4:04:21 GMT -5
www.edmontonsun.com/Sports/Hockey/2006/12/17/2841152-sun.htmlI'd say take this with a giant grain of salt. First of all it's Bruce Garioch, and second of all he says the Habs would trade Niinimaa and Bonk "because they haven't been pleased with the performance of either player." They haven't been pleased with Bonk?
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Post by habmeister on Dec 17, 2006 5:13:16 GMT -5
this is borderline retarded, sorry very un pc of me. but seriously, what a joke, fedorov is a cancer.
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Dec 17, 2006 6:06:14 GMT -5
this is borderline retarded, sorry very un pc of me. but seriously, what a joke, fedorov is a cancer. Yeah, but he looks great in an Armani suit. His presence on the club might rub Sheldon "GQ" Souray the wrong way, though. Do we really want to see a fashion conflict on the Habs? |
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Post by franko on Dec 17, 2006 7:24:48 GMT -5
Sometimes I think that Garrioch is related to Eklund.
[Aside: he has never liked Bonk, and unlike me refuses to admit any improvement in the guy (as much as it pains me to)].
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Post by jkr on Dec 17, 2006 8:11:49 GMT -5
I blame Garrioch's boss for continuing to let him write unattributed crap every week. Bonk is out if Ottawa - why can't he let it go.
Last week he actually wrote that Dallas was unhappy with Ribiero & that was after a flattering article in the Dallas paper.
The guy is a lazy hack who can't take the trouble to do some basic research or even use a little common sense. On most discussion boards he would be laughed off as a troll. He gives hardworking writers a bad name.
BTW: Fedorov turned 37 last Wednesday & is making 6 million. If Garrioch had cared to crunch the numbers he would have seen this makes no sense for a lot of reasons.
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Post by Skilly on Dec 17, 2006 15:58:06 GMT -5
I actually did a double take and checked the date of the article tomake sure it wasn't December 2005. Stay in the playoff race??!! This is December, we are not even half way through the season and he thinks the Habs are struggling to make the playoffs. HUH? Neglecting the fact that what is he doing talking about playoff races in December, but last time I checked we has 43 points .... second in the conference ... looks to me like other teams need to keep pace with us thank you very much.
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Post by PTH on Dec 17, 2006 16:21:06 GMT -5
Garrioch seems to think Higgins plays center.
He also can't spell foreword.
His scoop about TB moving Fedotenko or Prospal isn't much of a scoop since CBC talked about that on after 40 minutes last night....
Why should anyone take this clown seriously ?
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Post by princelh on Dec 17, 2006 17:22:33 GMT -5
He would be a great addition to the Habs. Look at Anaheim, when they traded him to Columbus, instant contender. Now, if Columbus passes on this bad apple, they become contenders to make the playoffs. After having him for a year, the Habs will draft in the top 10 and then they can trade him and go to the playoffs next year. See how it works?
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Dec 17, 2006 17:58:21 GMT -5
Garrioch seems to think Higgins plays center. He did. Before he was perverted to LW by André Savard. Nothing personal against the latter, and he is a true genius at spotting young talent (makes him sound like a bit of a pimp, doesn't it?). Higgins is a natural center. Pointe finale ! In Higgins' case spelling backward would quite possibly be the best enunciation. Scoop or poop does not really matter. Both are very useful and desireable players. Because "clowns' quite often prognosticate accurately, whereas bureaucrats merely follow trends. Nothing personal, but one high hand deserves another.  |
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Post by MC Habber on Dec 17, 2006 20:10:02 GMT -5
I actually did a double take and checked the date of the article tomake sure it wasn't December 2005. Stay in the playoff race??!! This is December, we are not even half way through the season and he thinks the Habs are struggling to make the playoffs. HUH? Neglecting the fact that what is he doing talking about playoff races in December, but last time I checked we has 43 points .... second in the conference ... looks to me like other teams need to keep pace with us thank you very much. I had the same reaction. I think I just posted this for laughs. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 17, 2006 21:27:01 GMT -5
www.edmontonsun.com/Sports/Hockey/2006/12/17/2841152-sun.htmlI'd say take this with a giant grain of salt. First of all it's Bruce Garioch, and second of all he says the Habs would trade Niinimaa and Bonk "because they haven't been pleased with the performance of either player." They haven't been pleased with Bonk? Sounds like Garrioch will listen to any rumour from any source. Or, he could be just generating tripe to see if he can influence something. Either way the guy has zero credibility as a journalist. Besides, Gainey would have to move more than just Niinimaa and Bonk to free up the salary he'll need. Don't get me wrong, Federov would help any club. However, I remember the Expos pennant run a few years back. They brought in Mark Langston and gave up three players including future hall of famer, Randy Johnson. Well, the Expos laid out the red carpet for Langston and while he did alright his new club went into a bit of a slide mainly because their team chemistry had been affected. Yet, all this is moot. Garrioch is nothing but a gossip monger. Cheers. |
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Post by PTH on Dec 17, 2006 22:18:11 GMT -5
Because "clowns' quite often prognosticate accurately, whereas bureaucrats merely follow trends. Nothing personal, but one high hand deserves another. I don't know who peed in your corn flakes, but it wasn't me..... |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Dec 17, 2006 22:46:57 GMT -5
Because "clowns' quite often prognosticate accurately, whereas bureaucrats merely follow trends. Nothing personal, but one high hand deserves another. I don't know who peed in your corn flakes, but it wasn't me..... I don't eat corn flakes, so not to worry. Just don't mess with my fried rice. |
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Post by MC Habber on Dec 18, 2006 2:17:30 GMT -5
I remember the Expos pennant run a few years back. They brought in Mark Langston and gave up three players including future hall of famer, Randy Johnson. Well, the Expos laid out the red carpet for Langston and while he did alright his new club went into a bit of a slide mainly because their team chemistry had been affected. I hate to break it to you, Dis, but that was more than a few years ago.  |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 18, 2006 9:43:16 GMT -5
I remember the Expos pennant run a few years back. They brought in Mark Langston and gave up three players including future hall of famer, Randy Johnson. Well, the Expos laid out the red carpet for Langston and while he did alright his new club went into a bit of a slide mainly because their team chemistry had been affected. I hate to break it to you, Dis, but that was more than a few years ago. D'oh! ... even before our last Cup. But still, the whole scenario doesn't make any sense. I don't know how Gainey would be able to free up the cap space without seriously altering his lineup. Garrioch  Cheers. |
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Post by duster on Dec 18, 2006 11:12:00 GMT -5
I think the Langston example is a good one Dis. In essence, that's what the Habs would be doing for someone like Fedorov and the results would likely be the same, as you pointed out. If the solution requires you to disrupt or dismantle what is already working...
This would and should be a last resort. I still think the solution lies from within...
Pass.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Dec 18, 2006 11:38:49 GMT -5
I would pass mainly because Fedorov has another year at $6m left on his contract and that's way too much money to tie up in a player who is clearly on the decline - that's Joe Thornton type money.
That said I don't think we would need to give up much to get him. Columbus would love nothing more than to get out from under his contract and would gladly take anything they could get. We could probably trade Samsonov and Niinmaa for Fedorov and a pick - who knows maybe Sergei and Kovy could light a fire under each other.
Personally I wouldn't do it but it wouldn't be a Mark Langston type deal where we gave up young emerging talent for a good picther who was a free agent at the end of the year. Langston actually pitched very well for the Expos in 1989 - but the problem that year was a lack of offense. If anything we would have been better off trading Johnson for more hitting.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 18, 2006 11:46:32 GMT -5
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Post by cigarviper on Dec 18, 2006 13:16:03 GMT -5
This has to be one of the worst trade rumours involving the Habs I've ever heard. Who writes this crap?
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Post by Skilly on Dec 18, 2006 13:18:07 GMT -5
At least Scott Cullen (thats the Ice chips guy isnt it?) had the good sense to edit all the lame supposition Garrioch put in there. How can anyone (other than HFLA) be upset qwith Bonk's play ... he even got franko over to the dark side, I tell you!! |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Dec 18, 2006 16:10:44 GMT -5
Guys, Fedorov is not having a bad year like he had last year and he'd be a huge upgrade over Plekanec on that second line. Huuuuuuuge. He's a great 2 way guy that can provide offense and he knows the way to Lord Stanley. Salary aside, this is exactly the type of pickup you do down the road to insure you go from a good regular season team to a team that can do heavy damage in the playoffs.
If he didn't have that extra year at 6mil, he'd be perfect.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 18, 2006 16:14:39 GMT -5
This has to be one of the worst trade rumours involving the Habs I've ever heard. Who writes this crap? Answer  |
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Post by MC Habber on Dec 18, 2006 16:25:16 GMT -5
This has to be one of the worst trade rumours involving the Habs I've ever heard. Who writes this crap? Answer I guess it takes a big guy to carry around that much incomptitude. |
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Post by habmeister on Dec 18, 2006 17:51:07 GMT -5
Answer I guess it takes a big guy to carry around that much incomptitude. anyone have his email addy? we should send him the link to this thread. |
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Post by MC Habber on Dec 18, 2006 19:06:34 GMT -5
I guess it takes a big guy to carry around that much incomptitude. anyone have his email addy? we should send him the link to this thread. We don't need any trolls here. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 18, 2006 19:32:01 GMT -5
I guess it takes a big guy to carry around that much incomptitude. anyone have his email addy? we should send him the link to this thread. Go get 'em buddy!!! Educate the man. bruce.garrioch@ott.sunpub.com |
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Post by princelh on Dec 19, 2006 0:19:28 GMT -5
Come on Gainey, go for it! Take Federov.
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Post by seventeen on Dec 19, 2006 3:15:32 GMT -5
Gainey's name is Bob, not John Jr.
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Post by habmeister on Dec 19, 2006 3:28:12 GMT -5
anyone have his email addy? we should send him the link to this thread. Go get 'em buddy!!! Educate the man. bruce.garrioch@ott.sunpub.com alright i just sent it off, i hope he can get past my 2nd comment. i'm sure he'll read it and hopefully a lot more of this board for more juicy rumours to write about. |
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Post by MC Habber on Dec 19, 2006 3:34:26 GMT -5
Hmm, if a fairly reputable site like TSN is putting up this kind of garbage, it shows you how little there is to most of these rumours. Two different sources tell me the Avalanche are looking to move Joe Sakic, and Boston is said to be very interested. Let's see how long that one takes to make it to Sports Center. |
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