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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 16, 2002 21:34:02 GMT -5
will the real Habs please stand up?
Great effort tonight. Theodore was solid(not great),everyone played pretty well,great PKing and the Habs showed they are a better team with 2 offensive lines/1 checking line/1 banging line
But this inconsistency is madenning!
24-22 the Shots for the Devils.
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Post by UberCranky on Nov 16, 2002 21:35:02 GMT -5
Best game of the year. HA's stars Dackell Koivu Perreault Dog House Gilmour Chow'mein McKay will the real Habs please stand up? Great effort tonight. Theodore was solid(not great),everyone played pretty well,great PKing and the Habs showed they are a better team with 2 offensive lines/1 checking line/1 banging line But this inconsistency is madenning! That's how it is supposed to be.
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 16, 2002 21:35:40 GMT -5
no Audi?
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Post by Viper on Nov 16, 2002 21:37:34 GMT -5
My thought's are as your's which team is this is it jekyll or hyde damnit i was hoping next week would see a guy with a bat behind the bench
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Post by PTH on Nov 16, 2002 21:43:23 GMT -5
Pretty good all-around game, Koivu, Perreault, Juneau, Markov and Brisebois are the key skaters on this team....
I'd take Audi, Chow, Travesty and perhaps Quintal and have them shot. Plenty of offensive RW's out there who would kill to play with Koivu...
Where the heck is Petrov ? Did he finally lose his tmper over the incompetent management, over seeing all these guys brought in for more cash who don't even produce more ?
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 16, 2002 21:47:13 GMT -5
Juneau and Dackell were great
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 16, 2002 22:00:41 GMT -5
I thought Kilger played an awesome game tonight. He may not have cashed in on his chances but he seemed to be in ther right place at the right time. Quintal, Bulis, and Dacks played very well too. Ditto Brisebois. Nice job in the last minute when he broke up a Devil's rush. Who knows what it could have led to.
Yanic Perreault must be wondering what it takes to get a hat trick these days. That's another game where he was out for the last minute to try and get his third goal and he didn't get the chance.
Anyone notice Blouin distract Scott Stevens out of the Lindsay fight? Stevens was focused on Lindsay immediately following the whistle. Blouin didn't even think about it. He just went over and stuck up for his teammate. Nice job for sure.
I'll agree with HA on Doug Gilmour. I really didn't notice him all that much tonight. Also, is it just me or is Chow a bit of a puck-hog?
I was a tad concerned when Fraser called those two penalties on us in the third. If the Devils were to get back into it, it would have been then. One was to Brisebois and the look on Pat's face told me that he honestly didn't know what Fraser was calling on him. Seems to reflect the officiating throughout the league this season; confusing.
Overall though, it was nice to see a plus-twenty-minute effort for a change. Pretty good team effort for sure. The SOG were reasonable for a change. It would be nice to see that sort of effort a little more often. Cheers.
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Post by 24andcounting on Nov 16, 2002 22:24:55 GMT -5
Pretty good game overall, and for sure one of the best of the year. Only one I liked more was the win in Hogtown, where Markov buried that empty netter from the point and then celebrated in front of the Leafs bench.
Markov is really coming into his own. It's impressive that he's logging significant ice time, and leads the team (coming into this game) in +/-.
Koivu is great defensively. He's responsible and comes back to finish his checks. I shudder to think who we have as suitable captain if Koivu ever left. I'm not sure we have anyone even close to suitable for captaincy. But that's for another discussion.
I'll echo others on Kilger. He was great and if he keeps playing like that, he'll be out of the doghouse.
Audette deserved a 3rd assist on Perreault's first goal. He was as much as a part of the passing play as Gilmour...Markov had great presence of mind to start that play.
Theo's looking pretty good, Juneau and Dacks had some good chances...smarter than the average hockey players, I would estimate. Bulis deserves some time on the top line... he has offensive flair that he can't tap into because of his linemates...
And the Laffs go down as well. The world is right again.
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 16, 2002 22:50:09 GMT -5
How could I forget about Kilger. What a dynamite game he played. When Zed is back, go with Kilger-Perreault-Chow/Petrov as our 2nd line..
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Post by Vichab on Nov 17, 2002 0:11:53 GMT -5
this was one of the most sound games i've seen Les bous play in a long time and to do it against NJ. Pretty impressive. Kilger was great and throwing the body from the start. Juneau and dackell were tremendous.
a couple of negative observations. Yes i was happy to see blouin step in with Stevens but why didn't he go with him. it looked like stevens wanted to go and it was blouin who was resisting. Blouin should know that if he can take Stevens off the ice for 5 mins that's a no brainer. Bulis played a great game and i love his skills offensive and defensive. on Yanic's 2nd goal it was bulis who stole the puck deep in our end and fed it up to Yanic for a 2 on 1. what bothered me is that Bulis could have jumped in the play to make it a 3 on 1 but didn't hussle at all. It may be that he felt we had the lead and didn't want to over commit but ..
otherwise it was nice to see a game with the shots relatively even. You think MT might make a connection between the 2 points and the shots against?
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Post by Rhiessan on Nov 17, 2002 0:44:01 GMT -5
NOPE!
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Nov 17, 2002 1:48:28 GMT -5
How could I forget about Kilger. What a dynamite game he played. When Zed is back, go with Kilger-Perreault-Chow/Petrov as our 2nd line.. Hey MT head, heres an idea from Marc. He changed the name on the back of his sweater from MPLabbe to Marc. Change all the names on the back of the players sweaters and confuse the other team. They may think that Petrov is really Kilger. * Don't forget to get the names right on the lineup card though or they can't play. ** It would be a good idea to change the name of the coach from Therrein to Robinson and the GM from Savard to Gainey, but that's hoping for too much.
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Post by montreal on Nov 17, 2002 3:17:30 GMT -5
Well my thoughts on the game, Juneau and Dackell were the best of the bunch, IMO. The PK really came up big. Don't know what the refs were calling, but our PK finally was good, after being embarassed last night (3-6 0-6 tonight? ) The Bulis Juneau Dackell line was good again. Koivu had a good game, and hopefully the flood gates will now open up for Audette. I don't know what Savard said to them in the closed meeting today, but whatever it was, even Chow heard him loud and clear. Not a great game for him, but I have to say this was the least pissed I have been at Chow since he has been a Hab. (same with Audette) Markov, wow this kid is becoming my favorite Hab. Although he did make a Brezzian type pass there (right on to a devils stick in his own end ) But he played a good game, and is now what a +5? Very impressive. Brezzy was good and led the defence tonight. Traverse seems to have his icetime cut some. On the other hand. Theodore was not so sharp. He was giving up way to many rebounds, and just doesn't look sure of himself yet. Yes he has only given up 1 goal in 2 games, but he's a great goalie, that isn't all the way their yet. He got lucky when Fraser blew the play dead, cause he didn't know where the puck was, but Fraser blew the whistle. (good thing cause it went in). I'm not worried, he will get better, but he can't be giving up those juicey rebounds with our average defence. Dykhuis keeps pissing me off, I don't understand what he's thinking sometimes. Kilger played ok, but took those stupid back to back pims, that could of really hurt us. Blouin, it doesn't seem he can do much of anything but check, I would sit him next game. Although I was very happy to see him jump right in and stick up for his teamate, we need more of that, its just that he can't do much of anything with the puck, I mean he makes Gino Odjick look like an allstar. Plus Mike Ribeiro is back, look out goalies, Ribs is coming for you!
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Post by Maritimer on Nov 17, 2002 9:32:36 GMT -5
What do you expect from him? He is a goon. Thats why we got him to hit and fight...thats why he plays every 3rd of 4th game less than 8 mins of ice time.
What period was the Stevens/Blouin thing? He might have been scared to get the instigator late in the game? I'd be dissapointed if he was scared of Old Man Stevens
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Post by 24andcounting on Nov 17, 2002 10:05:04 GMT -5
Blouin, it doesn't seem he can do much of anything but check, I would sit him next game. Although I was very happy to see him jump right in and stick up for his teamate, we need more of that, its just that he can't do much of anything with the puck, I mean he makes Gino Odjick look like an allstar. Respectfully disagree. Blouin brought some hustle to that fourth line, was a pain the butt, and laid a nice check -- something I haven't seen from the boys in very long time. There aren't many Karia type enforcers in the league, so we'll probably have to settle. We've sorely been missing a fourth line that actually lengthens our bench, checks everything in sight, and dumps the puck in. I think he's actually an asset to that line.
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Post by 24andcounting on Nov 17, 2002 10:08:43 GMT -5
Yes i was happy to see blouin step in with Stevens but why didn't he go with him. it looked like stevens wanted to go and it was blouin who was resisting. Blouin should know that if he can take Stevens off the ice for 5 mins that's a no brainer. From what I remember (and indeed I may be wrong), it was Lindsay who got wrapped up with Stevens and Blouin was third man in. He may have been worried about getting the instigator. A note to add, nice to see Koivu battling and sticking up for Theo.
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Post by UberCranky on Nov 17, 2002 10:13:12 GMT -5
What do you expect from him? He is a goon. Thats why we got him to hit and fight...thats why he plays every 3rd of 4th game less than 8 mins of ice time. What period was the Stevens/Blouin thing? He might have been scared to get the instigator late in the game? I'd be dissapointed if he was scared of Old Man Stevens Neither were ready to go. Was Blouin third man in? If so, it shows that he has some brains. As far as ever picking up Blouin, for what he does I would of kept O'Dette or traded for a more valuable commodity like Belak. Yes I know, I am not saying that Belak is anything more then a number 7 defenseman but at least he is more serviceable. I think that McCarthy from the Rangers was also available but he may be worn out. Laraque is not doing well in Edmonton, how is his status? Petrov, Gil-no-mour, that Superstar defenseman Traverse and 50 burritos for Laraque. Hey, I am generous on Sundays. It is interesting to see peoples perception on who was playing good. Kilger is doing what he was supposed to do and we think he had a great game. Juneau did have a good game but he is capable and should be doing it all the time. Dackell tries hard but he has hands of stone. Oh wait, he is too small to carry stones so I guess he has hands of clay. I read that Savard had a meeting with the boys. Is that true? Did he promise them a new coach as soon as he gets one? I know if he said that to me I would be thrilled and ready to sacrifice the family jewels. It's Sunday andthe Hab's have won and played great. Snow on the ground, coffee smells great, the wife looks 60 years younger, hmmm.........things are right for this Habbie.......................(until the next loss). P.S. I wonder if any Louisville 40 Ounce persuaders were involved in that closed door meeting? Was Savard reading HabsRus again? That mutt.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 17, 2002 10:30:27 GMT -5
Benching Blouin would be another bad timing move, IMHO. I thought dropping the gloves with Stevens wasn't necessary. However, I thought that's what Stevens had in mind all along. If Lindsay would have been stupid enough to have dropped the gloves with Stevens, Scott would have completed his mission; lay a pummeling on someone he would have no problem with; which would motivate his team, yadda, yadda, yadda...
However, Blouin was in there immediately to remove Stevens from the pending fray. Funny thing was though, if Stevens was so hell-bent on starting something, why didn't he go with Blouin? The instigator rule? Maybe that was Blouin's motivation as well. But, all I noticed was, Blouin showing up and his tussle with Stevens transpired into a jawing match. I'm not saying Blouin is a force by any means, but I do think Stevens was caught a little off guard. I mean, it's not like les good guys are noted for being tough, stand-up lads.
However, the situation ended up the way it should have. Leaving the two original participants, Lindsay and Danton, which was Blouin's doing hopefully. They went. Not a bad tussle I guess. Cheers.
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Post by UberCranky on Nov 17, 2002 10:45:50 GMT -5
Benching Blouin would be another bad timing move, IMHO. I thought dropping the gloves with Stevens wasn't necessary. However, I thought that's what Stevens had in mind all along. If Lindsay would have been stupid enough to have dropped the gloves with Stevens, Scott would have completed his mission; lay a pummeling on someone he would have no problem with; which would motivate his team, yadda, yadda, yadda... However, Blouin was in there immediately to remove Stevens from the pending fray. Funny thing was though, if Stevens was so hell-bent on starting something, why didn't he go with Blouin? The instigator rule? Maybe that was Blouin's motivation as well. But, all I noticed was, Blouin showing up and his tussle with Stevens transpired into a jawing match. I'm not saying Blouin is a force by any means, but I do think Stevens was caught a little off guard. I mean, it's not like les good guys are noted for being tough, stand-up lads. However, the situation ended up the way it should have. Leaving the two original participants, Lindsay and Danton, which was Blouin's doing hopefully. They went. Not a bad tussle I guess. Cheers. Linsday lay a whooping on Danton and his mouth. Danton bled for a good cause. OURS. He has been in Dougies face all along. Good for Lindsay. As far as Blouin versus Stevens. Stevens is not fool, he knew that Blouin can smack him and Blouin was goading Stevens to drop them but nothing. Nada. Me thinks Stevens chickened out. You know what they say about bullies. They chicken out when a bigger bullie comes along.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 17, 2002 10:48:55 GMT -5
Still, you have admit, HA, it takes a good man to take Stevens down, even at 38. At least we have someone in the lineup now who isn't afraid to get in his face. Cheers.
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Post by montreal on Nov 17, 2002 18:02:12 GMT -5
Respectfully disagree. Blouin brought some hustle to that fourth line, was a pain the butt, and laid a nice check -- something I haven't seen from the boys in very long time. There aren't many Karia type enforcers in the league, so we'll probably have to settle. We've sorely been missing a fourth line that actually lengthens our bench, checks everything in sight, and dumps the puck in. I think he's actually an asset to that line. Well Blouin's a goon, he did his job, now he can take a few nights off. We play the Pens at home. I would go with Kilger Ribeiro McKay if Zed and Petrov are healthy and in the building. But maybe MT keeps the lineup as is, but I can't see that if Zednik is available. I would go with Theodore in nets as well.
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 17, 2002 18:03:33 GMT -5
I would dress Blouin if McKenna is playing.
When you face the Kings or the Isles or the Stars who have NO goons...bench him, but when there is one, he should play.
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Post by Rhiessan on Nov 17, 2002 18:45:53 GMT -5
I agree. I miss having a Nilan type in the line up and so do all our smallish forwards. Odjick is better than Blouin but he's doing his job well enough.
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 17, 2002 19:10:26 GMT -5
I prefer Blouin.
Younger, cheaper and hasn't taken the dumb penalties Gino took
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