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Post by CentreHice on Feb 27, 2007 8:29:37 GMT -5
Says his back is healed and he's ready to play. Not travelling with the Panthers.
All fingers point to a move.
Any takers?
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Post by TheHabsfan on Feb 27, 2007 8:32:52 GMT -5
I'd stay away from this guy like the plague...
If Florida gave up Luongo for this guy and now want to get rid of him, I can't see how he could help our dressing room. I really believe this guy is a headcase and cannot bring anything positive in the medium to long term.
THF
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Post by jkr on Feb 27, 2007 9:04:56 GMT -5
McKenzie says this guy is as good as gone. - that Florida has offers. That surprises me because he hasn't played for so long.
At his best he can be a real force but we haven't seen that form for a while. I don't think he's worth much more than prospects or conditional picks now.
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Post by Forum Ghost on Feb 27, 2007 9:25:38 GMT -5
I would pass.
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Post by franko on Feb 27, 2007 9:40:43 GMT -5
Rumours . . . to NYR.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 27, 2007 9:52:01 GMT -5
I'd take Bert anyday in my top 6 in lieu of Perezhogin/Samsonov.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2007 10:02:08 GMT -5
I'd take Bert anyday in my top 6 in lieu of Perezhogin/Samsonov. No kidding. This guy still has plenty of good hockey left in him. He's better than anyone we have in our lineup. |
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Post by clear observer on Feb 27, 2007 10:07:49 GMT -5
Depends on the asking-price. If reasonable, then of course.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 27, 2007 10:24:03 GMT -5
Depends on the asking-price. If reasonable, then of course. Perez and that first we got from SJ. Would you do it? |
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Post by Boston_Habs on Feb 27, 2007 10:34:03 GMT -5
Depends on the asking-price. If reasonable, then of course. Perez and that first we got from SJ. Would you do it? I would make that deal for Ryan Smyth. Not sure about Bertuzzi - not enough track record this year to justify the deal. |
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Post by cigarviper on Feb 27, 2007 10:50:12 GMT -5
Perez and that first we got from SJ. Would you do it? I would make that deal for Ryan Smyth. Not sure about Bertuzzi - not enough track record this year to justify the deal. You'd give away Zhogin for a rental? If we were on the cusp maybe, but from here I can't even see the cusp on my gps. |
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Post by clear observer on Feb 27, 2007 10:55:55 GMT -5
Depends on the asking-price. If reasonable, then of course. Perez and that first we got from SJ. Would you do it? Nope. Too rich. But you got my ear.  CO |
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Post by franko on Feb 27, 2007 10:58:16 GMT -5
The first for sure.
The first and Abby!
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Post by Boston_Habs on Feb 27, 2007 11:05:00 GMT -5
I would make that deal for Ryan Smyth. Not sure about Bertuzzi - not enough track record this year to justify the deal. You'd give away Zhogin for a rental? If we were on the cusp maybe, but from here I can't even see the cusp on my gps. Isn’t Bertuzzi on IR? What’s his status? As for giving up Perezhogin and a 1st for a rental like Smyth then that’s the market that was set with the Forsberg deal. Call it overpaying but the price to acquire a player that could put you over the top is high. Dealing Perezhogin doesn’t bother me since we have some organization depth at the position with Kostitsyn on the way and we got an extra 1st from SJ. The chances of signing a career western conference player like Smyth is low but his scoring and tenacity would be a welcome addition right now. |
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Post by blny on Feb 27, 2007 12:14:11 GMT -5
Anaheim.
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Post by jkr on Feb 27, 2007 12:20:18 GMT -5
Florida has some leverage now that SJ has picked up Guerin. Burke can complain all he wants about the prices but he may have to pony up. |
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Post by franko on Feb 27, 2007 12:22:15 GMT -5
He'd better pony quickly; available first-tier guys are going fast.
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Post by blny on Feb 27, 2007 12:38:56 GMT -5
Burke is more proactive than reactive, but with Nashville adding, and now SJ, he has to be at least thinking.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 27, 2007 13:30:22 GMT -5
Bert will land here with the Beagle. I tell ya.
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Post by blny on Feb 27, 2007 13:39:45 GMT -5
Bert will land here with the Beagle. I tell ya. I saw that in the other thread, and Keenan was trying to suggest Belfour could end up here. I can't say I see it happening. What's putting that notion in your head? The deal you mentioned was two free agents from Florida to one free agent from us. I'm not sure Florida is interested in that sort of move, and I really have no interest in Bert. Way too many question marks around him, and I frankly don't think he can handle the pressure of playing in Montreal. I think Cujo is a better fit in Montreal, if Gainey hasn't given up attempts to upgrade their goaltending. He's a good team guy, he's not a distraction, he doesn't have the back problems Eddie has, and he's a little younger. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 27, 2007 14:02:43 GMT -5
Bert will land here with the Beagle. I tell ya. I saw that in the other thread, and Keenan was trying to suggest Belfour could end up here. I can't say I see it happening. What's putting that notion in your head? The deal you mentioned was two free agents from Florida to one free agent from us. I'm not sure Florida is interested in that sort of move, and I really have no interest in Bert. Way too many question marks around him, and I frankly don't think he can handle the pressure of playing in Montreal. I think Cujo is a better fit in Montreal, if Gainey hasn't given up attempts to upgrade their goaltending. He's a good team guy, he's not a distraction, he doesn't have the back problems Eddie has, and he's a little younger. Nobody will give much to Florida for Belfour as he is on his last legs but he’s a playoff warrior that's been there and done that and he did it with Bob and Guy so they know him: his good and bad sides. Contrary to most, I don’t believe Abby’s NHL career is over because he gave up 4 goals in a win last night. He’s still a decent goalie. Bert like him or not, is an impact player. I’d like him this spring for his 40 goals potential and physical presence. Gainey has been rumoured to have interest in him before… |
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Post by blny on Feb 27, 2007 14:06:36 GMT -5
I don't disagree with the merit. Just wondering if it's a hunch on your part, or someone else.  |
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Post by Steve Zissou on Feb 27, 2007 14:17:02 GMT -5
going to detroit...
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Post by blny on Feb 27, 2007 14:17:48 GMT -5
That's what TSN is saying. It's still pending ... |
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Post by Cranky on Feb 27, 2007 14:20:17 GMT -5
Can he even skate anymore? I hear they need a fork lift to push him on the ice.....a BIG fork lift.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 27, 2007 14:29:52 GMT -5
...good news is, we won't get to play against him until the Finals... ;D
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Post by franko on Feb 27, 2007 15:15:35 GMT -5
So it works out to Shawn Matthias and a conditional draft pick for Luongo.
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Post by jkr on Feb 28, 2007 8:38:18 GMT -5
So it works out to Shawn Matthias and a conditional draft pick for Luongo. I heard last night there are 2 conditional picks. One depends upon the Wings performance in the playoffs, the other depends on where Bertuzzi re-signs. Pretty low risk for the Wings. |
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Post by CentreHice on Feb 28, 2007 10:11:42 GMT -5
So it works out to Shawn Matthias and a conditional draft pick for Luongo. I heard last night there are 2 conditional picks. One depends upon the Wings performance in the playoffs, the other depends on where Bertuzzi re-signs. Pretty low risk for the Wings. The Wings have the depth to let Bertuzzi work his way into the lineup. In Montreal, he would to have to make an impact right away....and that's what's wrong with our team. |
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Post by jkr on Feb 28, 2007 10:31:58 GMT -5
I heard last night there are 2 conditional picks. One depends upon the Wings performance in the playoffs, the other depends on where Bertuzzi re-signs. Pretty low risk for the Wings. The Wings have the depth to let Bertuzzi work his way into the lineup. In Montreal, he would to have to make an impact right away....and that's what's wrong with our team. True, had not though of that. The Wings are going to let him work into shape, the Habs don't have the luxury of waiting for that. |
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