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Post by Doc Holliday on May 3, 2007 12:48:28 GMT -5
According to the one and only Ecklund, Lecavalier could be on the way out and Montreal could be a destination with a package that would include prospect sensation Carey Price.
Instead of judging the validity or not of that story, here's a question for you: Would you deal for Lecavalier in a package centered on Price and say... Koivu. ?
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Post by halihab on May 3, 2007 13:30:50 GMT -5
That's a tough one DOC. Who knows ? Price could be the next Brodeur or Luongo. It's a gamble. I'd love to have Vinny though. maybe we could package Koivu, Huet and a 1st rounder. I'd like to hold on to Price though.
edit: look at the remaining teams. They all have top notch goaltenders. They are probably the top 8 goalies in the league.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 3, 2007 14:10:22 GMT -5
According to the one and only Ecklund, Lecavalier could be on the way out and Montreal could be a destination with a package that would include prospect sensation Carey Price. Instead of judging the validity or not of that story, here's a question for you: Would you deal for Lecavalier in a package centered on Price and say... Koivu. ? TB is lacking in goal and on defense. Any deal involving Lecavalier would probably involve Price and Komisarek. From what I understand, that was the inside skinny last year regarding Lecavalier anyway. Cheers. |
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Post by Polarice on May 3, 2007 14:45:57 GMT -5
Well we know that Vinny is the real deal, we have no idea what kind of goaltender Price is gonna make. We can bet that he'll be good, but will he be great?
If we traded for Vinny, I would give price but only if we could also unload someone like Sammy, and perhaps a prospect.
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Post by Andrew on May 3, 2007 15:05:58 GMT -5
How many years are left on Vinny's contract?
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Post by Doc Holliday on May 3, 2007 15:36:32 GMT -5
How many years are left on Vinny's contract? ...2 more at 7.2mil (but with a cap hit of 6.85) |
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Post by Skilly on May 3, 2007 19:23:25 GMT -5
The thing is, if we do trade for Lecavalier we'd have to unload Koivu or Kovalev's contract if the deal involved a prospect or younger player.
I'd rather make the arguement that Kovalev would do better with Richards/St. Louis than Koivu would with St.Louis. Who creates space for St. Louis if Koivu is his center? I'd offer Kovalev first ... and Lecavalier gives Koivu a reason to stay.
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Post by jkr on May 4, 2007 9:45:41 GMT -5
I'd be sorry to see Price go but Lecavalier is a legitimate star. As Polarice says - who knows where Price will be in a few years. However, I think Feaster would be reluctant to do that deal for the same reasons. He would be roasted for trading a 50 goal scorer when the key player coming the other way is still a prospect.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 4, 2007 10:15:43 GMT -5
The thing is, if we do trade for Lecavalier we'd have to unload Koivu or Kovalev's contract if the deal involved a prospect or younger player. I'd rather make the arguement that Kovalev would do better with Richards/St. Louis than Koivu would with St.Louis. Who creates space for St. Louis if Koivu is his center? I'd offer Kovalev first ... and Lecavalier gives Koivu a reason to stay. Landing Lecavalier would make unloading Koivu less of an issue. Koivu said he was unhappy that the organization didn't go out and additional players for the playoff run. But, while the concern is noteworthy, I just got the impression he was still reeling from Rivet's handling and ultimate departure. Though I could be wrong that's the gist I got. However, if there is enough cap space to retain both he and Lecavalier, I think Koivu would excel as the club's number-2 centre. How many clubs would be able to boast that strength down the middle? But, in order to land the Rocket Richard Trophy winner, we're going to have to cough up quite a bit me thinks. It will probably take both Price and Komisarek, and that's not including the dickering for this prospect or that draft choice, yadda, yadda, yadda. Cheers. |
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Post by Andrew on May 4, 2007 15:13:04 GMT -5
I'd be sorry to see Price go but Lecavalier is a legitimate star. As Polarice says - who knows where Price will be in a few years. However, I think Feaster would be reluctant to do that deal for the same reasons. He would be roasted for trading a 50 goal scorer when the key player coming the other way is still a prospect. Just to play the Devil's advocate - it would suck to get burned when Lecavalier decides, after two seasons, that he'd rather go play hockey in a sunny place where he can live in relative anonymity, while Price is only 21, and not going anywhere for 5 years. I'm really excited about Price's puck handling ability - that could really improve our situation on defense if he can buy the defenders an extra second or two on a consistent basis. For that reason alone I'd be reluctant to give him up. |
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Post by Skilly on May 4, 2007 18:26:50 GMT -5
The thing is, if we do trade for Lecavalier we'd have to unload Koivu or Kovalev's contract if the deal involved a prospect or younger player. I'd rather make the arguement that Kovalev would do better with Richards/St. Louis than Koivu would with St.Louis. Who creates space for St. Louis if Koivu is his center? I'd offer Kovalev first ... and Lecavalier gives Koivu a reason to stay. Landing Lecavalier would make unloading Koivu less of an issue. Koivu said he was unhappy that the organization didn't go out and additional players for the playoff run. But, while the concern is noteworthy, I just got the impression he was still reeling from Rivet's handling and ultimate departure. Though I could be wrong that's the gist I got. However, if there is enough cap space to retain both he and Lecavalier, I think Koivu would excel as the club's number-2 centre. How many clubs would be able to boast that strength down the middle? But, in order to land the Rocket Richard Trophy winner, we're going to have to cough up quite a bit me thinks. It will probably take both Price and Komisarek, and that's not including the dickering for this prospect or that draft choice, yadda, yadda, yadda. Cheers. I understand where you are coming from, but to land a 7 million dollar player we are going to have to give up more than Komisarek (1 million, which a possible raise to 2 million) and Price ($850,000). It is going to require losing either Kovalev or Koivu. I'd rather keep Koivu so we wont have the same problem as all these years, one decent NHL center and hope for the best from the rest. We are strong on right wing, probably one of the strongest in the league. So I'd deal Kovalev. (assuming Tampa would take either of them) |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 4, 2007 21:08:22 GMT -5
Landing Lecavalier would make unloading Koivu less of an issue. Koivu said he was unhappy that the organization didn't go out and additional players for the playoff run. But, while the concern is noteworthy, I just got the impression he was still reeling from Rivet's handling and ultimate departure. Though I could be wrong that's the gist I got. However, if there is enough cap space to retain both he and Lecavalier, I think Koivu would excel as the club's number-2 centre. How many clubs would be able to boast that strength down the middle? But, in order to land the Rocket Richard Trophy winner, we're going to have to cough up quite a bit me thinks. It will probably take both Price and Komisarek, and that's not including the dickering for this prospect or that draft choice, yadda, yadda, yadda. Cheers. I understand where you are coming from, but to land a 7 million dollar player we are going to have to give up more than Komisarek (1 million, which a possible raise to 2 million) and Price ($850,000). It is going to require losing either Kovalev or Koivu. I'd rather keep Koivu so we wont have the same problem as all these years, one decent NHL center and hope for the best from the rest. We are strong on right wing, probably one of the strongest in the league. So I'd deal Kovalev. (assuming Tampa would take either of them) Or assuming there's another team out there interested, skilly. Looks like BG is going to be busy in the next few weeks and I'm getting a feeling that it's possible the team will have a few more new faces on it come training camp. Would like to see some excitement come draft day. But, experience tells us not to wish for stuff like that. Cheers. |
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Post by insomnius on May 7, 2007 15:53:54 GMT -5
Not Price.
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Post by jkr on May 9, 2007 7:55:20 GMT -5
I was just looking at Eklund's site again & he mentions this topic today. The way I interpret his comments is this way: this is a one way thing. The Habs want Lecavalier (like every other team in the league) but the Lightning are not shopping him.
Seems like another pipe dream.
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Post by HabSolute on May 9, 2007 9:41:01 GMT -5
I was just looking at Eklund's site again & he mentions this topic today. The way I interpret his comments is this way: this is a one way thing. The Habs want Lecavalier (like every other team in the league) but the Lightning are not shopping him. Seems like another pipe dream. I agree, IMO, there is no way TB is trading Lecavalier, not after the season he just had. It's "almost" like Washington trading Ovechkin or Pittsburg trading Crosby. Then again, there was the Thornton trade....  |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 9, 2007 9:42:01 GMT -5
I was just looking at Eklund's site again & he mentions this topic today. The way I interpret his comments is this way: this is a one way thing. The Habs want Lecavalier (like every other team in the league) but the Lightning are not shopping him. Seems like another pipe dream. I agree, IMO, there is no way TB is trading Lecavalier, not after the season he just had. It's "almost" like Washington trading Ovechkin or Pittsburg trading Crosby. Then again, there was the Thornton trade.... They traded Gretzky, no? Cheers. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on May 9, 2007 10:19:54 GMT -5
I was just looking at Eklund's site again & he mentions this topic today. The way I interpret his comments is this way: this is a one way thing. The Habs want Lecavalier (like every other team in the league) but the Lightning are not shopping him. Seems like another pipe dream. I agree, IMO, there is no way TB is trading Lecavalier, not after the season he just had. It's "almost" like Washington trading Ovechkin or Pittsburg trading Crosby. Then again, there was the Thornton trade.... They took away Modin from Richards and gave him a few pluggers with the results that Richards can't produce anymore. Who now wants Richards at close to 8mil with a no trade clause? If they trade St-Louis (though he has a NTC as well) than you can bet that Lecavalier's number will take a dive... A choice between Lecavalier and Richards should have been made a while ago and the franchise built accordingly. If the owners are serious about reducing the payroll than Feaster has painted himself in a corner. |
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Post by HFTO on May 9, 2007 22:06:27 GMT -5
As good as Vinny is I wouldn't gamble with Price either, Halak and Huet won't be in the same league if Price appears to be what he is a true franchise goaltender.
HFTO
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