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Post by CentreHice on Jan 25, 2004 0:08:10 GMT -5
I know I may get boiled in oil for this opinion: but I really wish the Steam melody "Na na na na...hey hey....goodbye" was never instituted in Montreal.
It smacks of poor sportsmanship (at least it's not racist like the Atlanta Braves tomahawk chop and chant)...and I don't think it befits an organization with the class of the Canadiens. And it comes back to bite us...like Saturday night when all the Leafs fans started singing it when it was 4-1. I guess it's all part of the sports fun...and even though the fans started it and the organist joined in at some point...I've never liked it.
By the way...when did the tradition start? The song "Kiss Him Goodbye" came out in 1969. I assume it began when it was a safe bet to sing it...when the Habs were winning like crazy in the 70's.
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jan 25, 2004 6:37:32 GMT -5
As I recall, its use in the NHL began at le C0lisée in Québec City. Nordiques fans gleefully inflicted it on the Habs after a hometown vicory. In short order the tune drifted down-river and nestled in the rafters of the late, lamented Forum.
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Post by Montrealer on Jan 25, 2004 14:06:52 GMT -5
The fans that buy season tickets for $5000 a pop to support the team can sing Frere Jacques for all I care. Especially in a situation where the team is winning, and super-especially when the team is only a minute away from a championship.
I sang along in '86 and '93 from home, so I may be biased.
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 25, 2004 15:01:20 GMT -5
Thanks for the origin, Mr. B. And I agree with you, Montrealer. It's just that I don't like it. It reeks of arrogance and is something that is not associated with us, but usually to Leaf fans. But like you said, people who pay the big bucks can do whatever they want, especially in an ecstatic state. We just have to be prepared for the boomerang effect.
I attended the Buff/Mtl game back in Feb. '99 when they presented the Rocket with the trophy bearing his name. I was sitting between two western Habs fans who just happened to be in town on business too. The Habs were up 2-1 or 3-2 with two minutes left, and the chorus started.
All three of us just shook our heads saying, "Why are they starting it now?" Buffalo poured on the pressure and scored to tie, but the goal was disallowed on that ridiculous "in the crease" rule.
The Habs won the game, but the chorus was not reprised.
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Post by franko on Jan 26, 2004 22:13:25 GMT -5
The time to start singing the song is when there is 10 seconds left in game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals and your team is up by 2. Anything else tempts fate (not that I believe in it) and (to quote) it reeks of poor sportsmanship (though having said that I'd love to have the opportunity to sing it!
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Post by Montrealer on Jan 27, 2004 10:52:41 GMT -5
The time to start singing the song is when there is 10 seconds left in game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals and your team is up by 2. Anything else tempts fate (not that I believe in it) and (to quote) it reeks of poor sportsmanship (though having said that I'd love to have the opportunity to sing it! Yup. Like CenterHice said, singing it with two minutes left up a goal is moronic. It's something to be sung when you're absolutely positively sure you're gonna win, and it's an important game to boot (gunning for the playoffs, bitter rival, playoff game, Stanley Cup championship).. |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jan 27, 2004 11:15:59 GMT -5
For me the context wherein the singing of the chorus still rings and stings strongest was at the end of Montréal-Québec games. The intense blood-boiling hatred that was the Battle of Québec just lent a piquancy to the ditty that I have not come across since in the NHL.
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Post by Forum Ghost on Jan 27, 2004 16:08:01 GMT -5
I believe I heard it earlier this year during a Hab victory against the Thrashers (or was it the Capitals?)... anyhow, I don't mind Hab fans singing the song as long as it's in the playoffs. Singing it during regular season games makes absolutely no sense to me.
I remember the fans singing it in '93 after Rick Dipietro scored against the Kings in Gm 5 to make it 4-1 Habs. At that point it was all but certain that the Kings were done, making it appropriate for the song to be sung.
I don't mind the fans singing the song, as long as the Habs are up by a few goals in the third period of a series-clinching game.
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Post by Skilly on Mar 1, 2004 8:43:41 GMT -5
I remember the fans singing it in '93 after Rick Dipietro scored against the Kings in Gm 5 to make it 4-1 Habs. At that point it was all but certain that the Kings were done, making it appropriate for the song to be sung. Don't you mean Paul DiPietro. I have that game taped off. My favourite parts are the quote that McLean says at the end of the telecast (someone on here has it as their tag .... You can always tell a Canadien, he has his hands full - He has one hand on the torch and the othe ron the Stanley Cup) and then it fades at the end of the telecast singing, "Back in the High Life Again". Ahhhhh all was right in the world that night. But I like the song sung at the end of the 86 championship better. "Habs to the Top" .... that was a good song. But back to the topic at hand. I would rather they sing Na Na Na Na Hey Hey Goodbye .... then this foolish soccer song they sing now! " Ole Ole " has got to stop! Everytime they sing it the opposition applies pressure .... and it just doesn't make sense. What is it's purpose .... Is it just Habs fans trying to be different from the rest of the league? It is just too European for me. |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Mar 1, 2004 9:57:52 GMT -5
...this foolish soccer song they sing now! " Ole Ole " has got to stop! Everytime they sing it the opposition applies pressure .... and it just doesn't make sense. What is it's purpose .... Is it just Habs fans trying to be different from the rest of the league? It is just too European for me. You're not in Kansas any more. Montréal (officially founded May 18, 1642) is, along with Québec City, the most European city in North America. Also one of the most cosmopolitan. "Trying to be different" doesn't enter into it. Montréalais are who they are. They are different. Simple as that. Backgrounder here: habsrus.proboards4.com/index.cgi?board=NonHockey&action=display&n=1&thread=12287&start=0 |
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Post by Forum Ghost on Mar 1, 2004 11:52:22 GMT -5
Don't you mean Paul DiPietro. Oops. Yeah, I meant Paul and not Rick. By the way, does anybody know what Paul Dipietro is doing nowadays? I think I read somewhere that he's playing in Europe with Gilbert Dionne. |
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Post by razor on Mar 1, 2004 16:06:02 GMT -5
Not that we've had occaission to sing it lately  |
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Post by Strummerman on Mar 3, 2004 18:51:40 GMT -5
Oops. Yeah, I meant Paul and not Rick. By the way, does anybody know what Paul Dipietro is doing nowadays? I think I read somewhere that he's playing in Europe with Gilbert Dionne. I know he was playing for canada in the Spengler Cup in Switzerland in December |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2004 10:08:28 GMT -5
I don't think anybody seemed to mind when we shut out the Pens in Game 6 back in 1998.
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Post by drkcloud on Apr 26, 2004 17:54:30 GMT -5
Not everything started out east guys. It was being sang in Vancouver back in '82 right around the same time the white towel mania was being created.
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Post by Strummerman on Apr 26, 2004 20:36:26 GMT -5
nah nah nah hey hey was sung as early as 1975 in montreal
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