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Post by Yeti on Mar 13, 2002 17:37:20 GMT -5
Rangers offered York, Ulanov and a prospect (Novak). Dallas offered one (or both ?) of Langenbrunner, Morrow and a pick. But Sather wants to restructure Bure' contract (from sportsnet).
Houle made a pitch for Bure when Vancouver started shopping him. I think we can afford him but is he worth it, both in terms of $$ and players ( Zednick is certainly equal to Langenbrunner or Morrow + one of our top 4 prospect).
Now that is a real sniper, he's having an off-year with a bad club, but imagine what he could do with Koivu- back to 40-50 goals, or even Gilmour...
Should we try ?
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Post by clear observer on Mar 13, 2002 17:43:15 GMT -5
Absolutely. Can you imagine the re-newed enthusiasm with the "Russian Rocket" in Montreal? A "true-blue" superstar would fill the bill quite nicely me thinks. He still has 5 productive years in him for sure. Do it. "Bure" jerseys alone would pay half his salary.
With Koivu at 100% and for an entire season this guy WILL fill the net 50 - 80 times. I'd bet my bal, er , baseball cards on it.
AS...make the pitch.
CO
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Post by clear observer on Mar 13, 2002 17:48:41 GMT -5
I'd offer Zed, one of Markov or Souray, and a first (2003).
That should do it.
I'll make the call.
CO
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Post by Douper on Mar 13, 2002 18:42:58 GMT -5
Ok maybe he has all the talent in the world. and maybe he can score with the best of them. But what if things don't go his way, we are stuck with a 10 million dollar baby who can't play a full game. I beleive that AS could spend his money better somewhere else. And I would never give Zednick away for a baby...I think he has been one of the most consistent players this year and his upside is tremendous. I don't think he's a 40 goal man but in the right situation the guy can easily score 30. Add that to Audette and Koivu's 30, plus Petrov and Perreault 20 and Bullis will come on. Add a couple of power forwards to the mix for about a combined 6 million and then go get a rugged Dman for 4 million. Then you are talking. Montreal doesn't need a 10 million dollar man cause they have nothing to put around him.
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Post by Zaphod_Beeblebrox on Mar 13, 2002 20:11:26 GMT -5
All these propositions appear to be for naught. SportsNet was speculating before tonight's game (EDM @ DET) that Bure is on the move tonight, to either NYR or Dallas. We'll see at the intermission. I'll post any news.
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Post by Ryan on Mar 13, 2002 22:19:17 GMT -5
If Florida would hand up Pavel Bure I wouldn't take him.
I'm serious about that, he isn't even worth the $10 million salary let alone the talent you'd be giving up to get him.
Bure is a prolific goal scorer, no question there, but he needs to be on the right team. This is not the team for Bure. He needs a veteran team where he is not in the spotlight all the time. Bure would do more bad for this team than good, no doubt in my mind.
Don't touch him or his smurf brother. What a couple of head cases.
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Post by Johnny Verdun on Mar 14, 2002 0:15:03 GMT -5
I agree.
For ten million dollars why wouldn't we want Holik AND Kasparitis rather than Bure? To me it's a no-brainer. Do you want an emotionally fragile superstar who can score or do you want a big, strong centerman who can play physically at both ends of the ice and lead by example and a d-man who hits like he's 230 but skates like he's 190, who's tougher than nails and who makes smart plays in his own end? Koivu and Theodore can sell the jerseys, and we need meat and heart in our lineup more than a sniper who likes the lush life....
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Post by Forum Ghost on Mar 14, 2002 1:02:09 GMT -5
If the Habs are going to spend $10 M on a goal scorer, I hope they spend that money on Selanne and not Bure.
Bure has proved time and time again that he does not care about the game, he just cares about his paycheque. He is not the type of player I think the Habs should get right now. Guys like Gilmour and Juneau are the way to go. Guys who are about hard work and winning as a team. (Holik fits this mould but I don't think he'll be coming to MTL.) Bure is a headcase and a primadona, who is only looking out for himself.
I hope he goes to the Rangers, he would fit in with all the other head cases there (Fleury, Barnaby and Lindros).
In the 2001 All Star game Bure left the game early just so he could catch the earlier flight back to Miami. Now I know that the All Star game doesn't mean much, but it's still an NHL superstar's obligation to the fans. Bure couldn't care less. That move alone speaks volumes about his character.
Here's one fan who hopes the Habs spend there money elsewhere.
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Post by Vichab on Mar 14, 2002 1:36:23 GMT -5
i agree that the guy is a case but i'd take him. Maybe I've been starved too long and am desperate but, leaving the chance of bettering the team aside (which i think he would do) I want to watch some hockey, root for my team and get excited about who is on the ice. Does anyone remember those days when the habs had a legitimate superstar and how much fun it was to wait for his shift (sometimes double shift) and be on the edge of your seat knowing he could explode any time and score. As I've seen on far too many a post here lately we love our boys but the reality is, as is the consensus, that they are a boring team and we are getting tired.It's time to step up.
the money doesn't bother me as I would gladly give up a number of our 3 and 4 million $ guys ( Perreault, Berezin) for one 10 million $ guy. Even if we lose which we are doing now at least it would be fun and exciting.
No doubt Bure is a case and if you remember he left Vanc. because he didn't like all the attention , so he said. If that's the case he ain't seen nothing yet. Wait till he plays in Mtl and puts on the red, white and blue. He is clearly a risk but one I'd take. Besides if he's a flop we could easily flip him to another desperate gm like Sather or Pleau and in a year or two , Holland.
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Post by MPLABBE on Mar 14, 2002 11:50:09 GMT -5
I also don't want that baby.10 million bucks and giving up half our future doesn't interest me at all, thank you very much(make no mistake about it, FLA would have picked Kommie if Weiss wasn't available, they love the kid...I am convinced he would be the guy they want).
Like JV said, give me Kaspar and Holik for that money instead of Bure.
By the way, if the Rangers give up York and Novak for Bure.They can officialy be considered the worse organization in the NHL.York is a great young player who works his ass off every night and Novak is a potential #1 d-man with great potential.
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Post by habernac on Mar 14, 2002 11:52:05 GMT -5
This guy is the league's premier prima donna. Let him rot with Keenan and his little wus brother in Florida.
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Post by Andrew on Mar 14, 2002 14:56:12 GMT -5
He still has 5 productive years in him for sure. While he may have a good 5+ years left, as CO suggests, his contract expires after 2. I figure he'll be off to Broadway by then anyway - may as well not delay the inevitable. I agree with JV on this one. 10 million could be better spent elsewhere. Having a one dimensional sniper is fine if you have a strong supporting cast. What the Habs need is more grit, in my opinion. I'm drooling at the thought of Kasperitis (and I'm sure Theo is too given the ease at which players are allowed to drive to the net against the Habs), but I'm sure he'll command a huge salary, having forgone his option in order to qualify for UFA status this summer. |
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Post by MPLABBE on Mar 14, 2002 18:20:03 GMT -5
I'd offer Zed, one of Markov or Souray, and a first (2003). That should do it. I'll make the call. CO No way will FLA make that deal.They have Ozolinsh on their blueline.Markov is not really needed there.Souray? I mean come on, folks...they are trading Pavel Bure for crying out loud.Zednik? 20-25 goal scorer for a 50 goal scorer? oh my... |
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Post by MPLABBE on Mar 14, 2002 18:25:08 GMT -5
While he may have a good 5+ years left, as CO suggests, his contract expires after 2. I figure he'll be off to Broadway by then anyway - may as well not delay the inevitable. I agree with JV on this one. 10 million could be better spent elsewhere. Having a one dimensional sniper is fine if you have a strong supporting cast. What the Habs need is more grit, in my opinion. I'm drooling at the thought of Kasperitis (and I'm sure Theo is too given the ease at which players are allowed to drive to the net against the Habs), but I'm sure he'll command a huge salary, having forgone his option in order to qualify for UFA status this summer. With Kaspar around, I guarantee you teams won't pile over Theodore like the Rangers did on Monday.Play Kaspar with Markov and watch Andrei take chances offensively and score a ton of points.And Kaspar can help Markov with the off-ice NA life. |
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