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Post by MPLABBE on Feb 13, 2002 20:54:27 GMT -5
Oh is this sweet: sports.espn.go.com/nhl/boxscore?gameId=220213009I always hated this guy when he was with us,I always said he was a grossly overated bum and he should have been dealt ASAP. Guess,I was right. I mean look at that Dallas lineup...so many stiffs...Rucinsky can't even beat them out for playing time. Thank you Ace for getting rid of him! |
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Post by Cranky on Feb 13, 2002 21:20:33 GMT -5
Bwahahahahahahahahhah...... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D This is fantastic news. I hated the guys as a player like nobody else. The CH mildewed on him. I could not care less if he never played another game in his life for an NHL team. He is the............arghhhh.......I'll stop now.  |
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Post by Ryan on Feb 13, 2002 21:51:45 GMT -5
Rucinsky made Richer look like a gamer.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 13, 2002 22:43:10 GMT -5
And we don't even have to worry about how Bob Gainey is feeling about the trade now. Hmmmmm.. wonder if Bob wasn't fooled at all and just felt a twang of loyalty for his old team, knowing he was going to bow out soon anyway? Nah...that's too melodramatic. But thanks anyway Bob. I doubt Marty will have many takers this summer as a UFA. <br>
Maybe we could even sign him back. Chuckle, chortle, guffaw.
(I am buying the rope, do you have the tree? LynchRus. HA)
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 13, 2002 22:52:51 GMT -5
Good size, great speed and a lot of skill. If we didn't know him, I'm sure many here would be tempted...
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Post by Vichab on Feb 14, 2002 1:57:11 GMT -5
Like I said a few nights ago with Audette going down shortly after the trade it's as if we have just the same team as before the trade but no Rosie. The team hasn't missed a beat. The guy was and is dead weight.
To think back to the Roy trade and realize how bad it was. Reggie even threw in Keane. Has to go down as one of the all time worse trades.
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Post by GNick on Feb 14, 2002 6:50:17 GMT -5
The funny thing about the Roy trade is the team when 7-3 in the next 10 games immediately following the trade. Doesn't make any sense at all! I guess the world is full of ironicies.
Even more ironic, Rucinsky had 14 points in those ten games and finished the year with 60 points in 54 games in Montreal. Kovalenko was on pace for a 35 goal season, with 17 goals in Montreal. He scored the last goal at the Forum. And T-bo when 26-13, with a .915 save percentage and 2.50 goals against during his first season in Montreal. Among the best in the league.
I don't know why that is? Maybe something to do with a trade shaking up players for the short term. We should remember this when seeing trades today!
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Post by BadCompany on Feb 14, 2002 8:43:32 GMT -5
Good size, great speed and a lot of skill. If we didn't know him, I'm sure many here would be tempted... ;D I'd resign him. For about $1.5 million. For one year. Seriously, if Rosie would take under $2 million per year (and he just might have to if he keeps playing the way he is playing), I'd make him an offer and tell him he's got a spot on the 4th line waiting for him. As you said, lots of skill, good speed, capable of playing on a top line when injuries hit, has killed penalties in the past - why not? Gives our top prospects, like Hossa, Plekanec, Balej, etc. one more year to develope and make an impact. Who would we rather have on the 4th line? Ward and Asham? Or Rucinsky? Odjick - Kilger and Rucinsky as a 4th line? Sounds good, no? And heck, maybe Savard can flip Rucinsky for another Audette type return!  $1.5 - 2 million for that? Doug Gilmour type money? Works for me. |
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Post by Cranky on Feb 14, 2002 8:58:26 GMT -5
Sure BC and he can also teach them his brand of attitude, yup. What? You never heard of the "rotten apple" influence? Let me tell you something, bad influence in the working enviroment is a very real problem. I see it in my working enviroment all the time. Never mind the nineties political correctness. If the employee is bad, get rid of them. Period. Do you think that Rosie will score more? Play better then before? Perhaps give a royal sh!t? Perhaps Koivu leadership will change him? If you answer yes to any of those questions, then I must ask you about Santa Claus and I have this wonderfull deal for some land, immidiatly east of Kabul. 8) I am preparing myself for further discussions by putting on my Hannibal Lecter mask..........keeps me from biting the furniture.......small animals.......  |
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Post by BadCompany on Feb 14, 2002 9:19:26 GMT -5
If you answer yes to any of those questions, then I must ask you about Santa Claus and I have this wonderfull deal for some land, immidiatly east of Kabul. 8) About that land in Kabul, I would actually be kind of interested. Cheap to buy, billions of dollars of government aid and subsidies, cheap labour force, cheap production costs owing to low value of local currency... Heck, if I didn't know better I would think you were a member of the Liberal Party of Canada... As for Rucinsky's attitude, I for one never really thought it was all that bad. Sure, he floated on the ice at times, and he was streaky as hell, but so does/is Chad Kilger. Did he get into fights with teamates? Did he verbally abuse fans? Did he berate and/or refuse to deal with the media? We aren't talking about a Tom Barrasso or Theoren Fleury here. We are talking about Martin Rucinsky, a guy so bland he makes Murray Wilson seem like the epitome of entertainment. Rucinsky may not have had any positive influence on a dressing room, but does anybody seriously think he had a negative one? Was he the guy telling Eric Chouinard to blow off his training regime and come party? Did he and Mike Ribeiro get busted in that "Teen Dream Escort Service" scam? Was he telling Andrei Markov that "English really is overrated and anything that guy Therrien tells you is just a load of bunk?" I don't think so. Rucinsky was just there. Frustrating to watch, because he has so much talent, but hardly an influence one way or another. As a 4th liner, I would imagine his influence would be even less. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 14, 2002 9:45:06 GMT -5
Rucinsky was just there. Frustrating to watch, because he has so much talent, but hardly an influence one way or another. As a 4th liner, I would imagine his influence would be even less. Yep, Rucinsky is not a "cancer", he has absolutely no leadership positive or negative, he's just one of the guys. He's always been a classy guy, available to the media with nothing but good words to say about the team and the fans. He became a scapegoat here due to his style of play and I'm happy we got a better fit in Audette in exchange of him. I wouldn't take back Rucinsky because this type of player don't jive with the fans in Montreal who love guys that continually work in the kitchen and get their nose dirty. Most considered Turgeon a gutless floater in his Montreal days. I'll make a wild prediction: expect Berezin to wear out his welcom VERY quickly and become a target... |
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Post by Cranky on Feb 14, 2002 9:48:21 GMT -5
I am going to make this quick because I am suffocating from under this mask. I can answer with a "maybe he did" in some of them. We do not know either way. However his performance on ice was, ahh, sickening to me. And many others, I am sure.  Bring in a 31 one year old that "clearly" does not care, unless of course you like to argue that the way he tied his skate laces was a clear indicator of his desire to play for the Hab's. Actually, I hear that he did an interview for the Czech magazine called Horse and Barn. Apperantly he said that he loved playing hockey for the Hab's and was gravely disappointed that he was traded. Unfortunatly, no one will know this but me because his agent bought all 17 copies of the magazine. To bad, maybe Dallas could of read this before they benched him. Common BC, you are doing this so I will worry about this until next fall and ruin my sex life.  What am I fretting about, AS will never sign him back.  |
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Post by PTH on Feb 14, 2002 10:16:09 GMT -5
I'm with BadCo, kinda.
I wouldn't mind seeing Rucinsky back. It won't happen, but I wouldn't really mind. I always liked the guys talent and ability to play in just about any game situation. I preferred him to Savage, by a mile. Rucinsky might be frustrating, but he's never a real liability.
However, he's not a good fit for a team that needs to get regular contributions on offense from all 6 top-6 forwards, like the current Habs.
Rucinsky is to forwards what Malakhov is to defensemen - a great 2nd line / 2nd pairing player, when matched with a top notch talent. Both need to have someone else take the pressure, and then they can perform pretty well. Rucinsky though really does need a quality center to produce, which hurt him badly: with Koivu out all the time, Damphousse couldn't always play with every winger...
Malakhov never fell what I called the Popovic line - he was never worse off than just being a decent defensive defenseman. Rucinsky never fell below the Poulin line - never being less than an adequate defensive forward. A lot of other scoring forwards, when off their game, fell far below the Poulin line..... Kovalenko, Selivanov and others come to mind...
I think SJ should give Rosie a try, he could still click with Vinny, and get 25 goals at a good price.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 14, 2002 21:06:06 GMT -5
Well, poke me in the eye with a fork. HA, do you still have that rope hanging around? Guys...this is how lives are ruined, how empires are toppled, how the expanding universe begins contracting. I throw out the latest Rod Serling fiction and we start to seriously consider it? BadCo, you are a BadBoy. However you analyse Marty...remember one thing. He is a loser. Teams he goes to lose. Teams he leaves, win. Can you believe this guy is on the Czech Olympic team? Or has that coach realized the monumental error and discovered that Marty has a herniated hangnail and can't play. <br>
Ok, I've called your two bits and raised you four.
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Post by Habsolutely on Feb 14, 2002 21:24:17 GMT -5
Taking Rucinsky back  ? Oh no, please ! I've had enough of this guy already ! And with Savard being able to get a good player for him (what a steal by the way), geez.. I didn't even remember who was Rosie. I would bring Savage back way before him. |
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Post by BadCompany on Feb 15, 2002 9:10:33 GMT -5
Teams he goes to lose. Teams he leaves, win. Can you believe this guy is on the Czech Olympic team? Or has that coach realized the monumental error and discovered that Marty has a herniated hangnail and can't play. <br>Ok, I've called your two bits and raised you four. How did that Czech National Team do in the last Olympics anyways? Who was the 2nd leading scorer on that team, behind that Jammy guy? And how have the Czechs done in international tournaments since then? Have they won any of them? I am not saying we should go out of our way to resign Rucinsky, I am just saying that if we can ice a team next year that has Rucinsky on the 4th line, then I really, really like our chances of doing some damage. That's all. |
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Post by Cranky on Feb 15, 2002 9:36:20 GMT -5
BC,
You bring up Rosie Olympic records and you know what, THAT is what galls me the most. If he wanted to, he could of been a great player for the Hab's. But, all he cares for is the Czech Olympic Team, the NHL is just a paycheck for him and all he has to do is show up for 40 hours on ice and collect 2.5 million for it.
I clearly see your point. I mean, what are glasses for after all. But what I think that you fail to see is the utter disgust and disdain that this player has made some Hab's fan feel for him. He brought it on to himself.
Anyway, I thought that thoughts of Rosie were dead. To be filled away in the same drawer as Bobbit and Foule.
I gonna get that punk Marc for ruining my daydreams with this Rosie thingy...........arghhhhhh.......
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Post by MPLABBE on Feb 15, 2002 16:25:14 GMT -5
I'd resign him. For about $1.5 million. For one year. Seriously, if Rosie would take under $2 million per year (and he just might have to if he keeps playing the way he is playing), I'd make him an offer and tell him he's got a spot on the 4th line waiting for him. As you said, lots of skill, good speed, capable of playing on a top line when injuries hit, has killed penalties in the past - why not? Gives our top prospects, like Hossa, Plekanec, Balej, etc. one more year to develope and make an impact. Who would we rather have on the 4th line? Ward and Asham? Or Rucinsky? Odjick - Kilger and Rucinsky as a 4th line? Sounds good, no? And heck, maybe Savard can flip Rucinsky for another Audette type return! $1.5 - 2 million for that? Doug Gilmour type money? Works for me. you kidding me??? Look at his numbers while playing with a Nieuwendyk,a Turgeon or a Modano! Rucinsky is a cancer.I wouldn't be surprised at all if he takes the route of Alexander Selivanov,Kovalenko and Sergei Krivokrasov:to the minors or back to Europe.He is that bad. |
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Post by MPLABBE on Feb 15, 2002 16:29:53 GMT -5
How did that Czech National Team do in the last Olympics anyways? Who was the 2nd leading scorer on that team, behind that Jammy guy? And how have the Czechs done in international tournaments since then? Have they won any of them? I am not saying we should go out of our way to resign Rucinsky, I am just saying that if we can ice a team next year that has Rucinsky on the 4th line, then I really, really like our chances of doing some damage. That's all. Please,the only reason the Czechs won was Hasek.They played the trap and never attacked.Hasek was the only reason they won.Even Jagr only had 1 goal. Rucinsky would be a terrible 4th liner.You want grit and toughness on that 4th line.Mike Ribeiro probably has more grit and toughness in his pinky than Rucinsky has in his whole body. |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 16, 2002 0:46:03 GMT -5
I'll get back to you BC. Right now, I'm working with Photoshop, trying to see if I can get a CH on a Czech national jersey and have it look close enough to fool the officials. They're both red, which helps. If I can do it, we'll have our first superstar in years.
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Post by MPLABBE on Feb 17, 2002 17:14:52 GMT -5
That #$%?#%? Rucinsky did it again.How many points did he have against Germany? 4?...Man,am I ever happy we don't have him anymore.Maybe he should just go back to the Czech Republic and play on everyone of their national teams...yes,even the woman's team |
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Post by Cranky on Feb 17, 2002 18:24:51 GMT -5
I can not believe that I am writing another post about this #$$h%le, but from October onwards I have been saying the same thing. In HF, McKeens and here. My concubines say that they also hears me say it in my dreams. Rosies only concern is his pocket and the his national team. Marc, you are not going to believe how glad I am that he is not on our team.  I have to make myself a promise and stop posting on this subject, I am getting mysterious stomach pains and a twitch over my left eye! |
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Post by MPLABBE on Feb 19, 2002 15:39:50 GMT -5
IF you think WE hate him,how do you think STARS fans feel? the guy has done even less for them than he did for us!!! |
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