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Post by MPLABBE on Feb 9, 2002 15:56:58 GMT -5
Can someone please tell Therrien to get his head out of his *** and stop playing Juneau for 90% of the PP?
Juneau plays against the other team's top line,he kills penalties and is always on the ice late when we have a lead.That is already 20-25 minutes of ice time alone,why push him to exhaustion for crying out loud?
And why does lovechild Robidas keep getting PP time.IMHO,Markov,Rivet,Robidas and Dykhuis all have more offensive talent than him.
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Post by Andrew on Feb 9, 2002 17:46:00 GMT -5
I agree. Juneau was out there on the first unit of every powerplay. His role should be restricted to what he does best: checking and penalty killing. Bulis, on the other hand, saw very little ice time in a game that featured quite a few man advantages. I'd rather see him getting the power play time.
God, what an aweful game. The Habs were out-coached, out-skated, and out-hit. They were beat to every loose puck.
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Post by MPLABBE on Feb 9, 2002 17:56:05 GMT -5
Bulis deserves PP time...but with Berezin,Petrov,Zednik and Ribeiro there to play on the wings,where do you put him?
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Post by Andrew on Feb 9, 2002 19:07:47 GMT -5
That's the problem. He's definitely not a point man, and Berezin is a better chioce for LW given that he's a right handed shot. I wonder if he'd be any good as RW on the powerplay. Perhaps try swapping him with Ribeiro. Either that, or try Berezin at the point with Bulis in his spot.
It just seems like a waste having Bulis, who's emerged as one of our best forwards, get used so little. According to ESPN Bulis played 8:33, all at even strength. Only Odjick saw less ice time with 6:20.
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Post by Vichab on Feb 10, 2002 0:04:39 GMT -5
While i agree that we don't want to tire Joe out i do have confidence in him at the point on the PP. He is one of the smartest players on the team and he makes a good QB and won't make a mistake back there. What i don't like is he will not shoot (probably because of a weak shot) and the other team knows that, which makes it easier to defend.
As for the game - the Boys simply did not show up. The first period was about as bad as I've seen. If not for Theo... Perreault seems to become more ineffective as the season wears on . One thing is sure he is absolutely terrible against the Leafs - probably psyched out. He's gone from our #1 center to our 2nd and he's working on 3rd. It would be nice to go into the break with a win but after what i saw today I'm not so sure Detroit is going to accommodate us. My only hope is that the Wings have about 10 players who will hopefully have their minds on the Olympics.
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Post by MPLABBE on Feb 10, 2002 12:19:23 GMT -5
That's the problem. He's definitely not a point man, and Berezin is a better chioce for LW given that he's a right handed shot. I wonder if he'd be any good as RW on the powerplay. Perhaps try swapping him with Ribeiro. Either that, or try Berezin at the point with Bulis in his spot. It just seems like a waste having Bulis, who's emerged as one of our best forwards, get used so little. According to ESPN Bulis played 8:33, all at even strength. Only Odjick saw less ice time with 6:20. Seriously,I would try Ribeiro at the point.IF there is anything Mike can be great at in this league,it's being a PP specialist.And he has played the point in a few games this year and in his rookie year(1999-2000) I agree having Bulis on the team seems like a waste.He needs to play much more than 8:33.I can't believe Odjick gets so much ice time when we are trailing by a goal or two.Speaking of Odjick he should have been used in the first 5 minutes when it was obvious TO was gonna be the better team on this day.
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Post by MPLABBE on Feb 10, 2002 12:21:43 GMT -5
While i agree that we don't want to tire Joe out i do have confidence in him at the point on the PP. He is one of the smartest players on the team and he makes a good QB and won't make a mistake back there. What i don't like is he will not shoot (probably because of a weak shot) and the other team knows that, which makes it easier to defend. As for the game - the Boys simply did not show up. The first period was about as bad as I've seen. If not for Theo... Perreault seems to become more ineffective as the season wears on . One thing is sure he is absolutely terrible against the Leafs - probably psyched out. He's gone from our #1 center to our 2nd and he's working on 3rd. It would be nice to go into the break with a win but after what i saw today I'm not so sure Detroit is going to accommodate us. My only hope is that the Wings have about 10 players who will hopefully have their minds on the Olympics. Sure,you can try Juneau on the point.But at least have a blueliner who has A CERTAIN amount of ability with him on the point(i.e. Markov) instead of Robidas.And don't play him for the full 2 minutes.Man,I never thought I would miss Brisebois this much As for Detroit,after the game against us,they have a game against Minny,so I wouldn't count on the Olympic effect.
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Post by Pam on Feb 11, 2002 1:55:00 GMT -5
If not for Theo... Perreault seems to become more ineffective as the season wears on . One thing is sure he is absolutely terrible against the Leafs - probably psyched out. You're going to hit me now. Maybe Yanic still wants to be on the Leafs. I was sick when I got home from Canada on the evening of January 31 (I caught that awful virus going around Ontario the last day I was there). Then I had to catch up my Leafs board and other stuff, so I haven't been around to let you know what went on in Montreal. Yanic said something to me. I'll try to post a brief post about trip in the next few days.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 11, 2002 12:03:58 GMT -5
Many things to debate on that post!!!
1st: I agree Juneau/Robidas as our PP pointmen is ridicoulus. Neither of them shoots with authority, they just pass the puck to one another or ship it to a winger in the corner that will ultimately give it back to them... There is no flow, movement or creativity in our powerplay. Ribeiro is an interesting idea, but why not Markov? He only comes in late in the PP yet he is, IMO, the best to play the point when Brisebois isn't there. I'd start with Rivet/MArkov, then move on with Dykhuis/Bouillon.
But I disagree on Bulis. The guy finally found himself by playing with less pressure on a checking line, why the heck would we want to tamper with that.
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Post by Newsy Lalonde on Feb 11, 2002 13:33:47 GMT -5
Juneau is getting a lot of ice time, maybe too much. His talent has been noticed as a shorthanded specialist agreed. My thought s on the power play are simple. Brisebois is th QB but when he is not healthy you must go with a d-man who can be creative. Markov in my mind is this guy. Everybody who posted agrees with is I`m sure. Now my idea is simple and not very complicated it goes back to basic bantam hockey. Take the biggest guy you have who is decent player ala Kilger put him on the wing and his job is to stick in front of the goalie cause traffic and mayhem in front of the net. this will also make one opponents d-man have to work on him causing 2 guys in front destorting the goalie`s view. Perreault with is face off skill will center and he is decent offensively. Berezin will the other winger. The question is the other d? Here is where we should put a reliable player, a d-man either Rivet or Bouillon. So we have Kilger-Perreault-Berezin-Markov-Bouiilon. A second pairing could be and thios I will get flack for Quintal taking Kilger's place (or Odjik) Gilmour-Zednik-Dykhuis-Robidas. Bulis and Petrov being subs. Don't forget with a big winger in front of the net the opposition's nice little box is not so pretty anymore.
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Post by MPLABBE on Feb 11, 2002 15:51:36 GMT -5
Many things to debate on that post!!! 1st: I agree Juneau/Robidas as our PP pointmen is ridicoulus. Neither of them shoots with authority, they just pass the puck to one another or ship it to a winger in the corner that will ultimately give it back to them... There is no flow, movement or creativity in our powerplay. Ribeiro is an interesting idea, but why not Markov? He only comes in late in the PP yet he is, IMO, the best to play the point when Brisebois isn't there. I'd start with Rivet/MArkov, then move on with Dykhuis/Bouillon. But I disagree on Bulis. The guy finally found himself by playing with less pressure on a checking line, why the heck would we want to tamper with that. 1:you see,we are already taking for granted that Michel Therrien has no clue that Markov is an offensive d-man.I am sure,in his book,Robidas can create more offence than Markov.It's really a shame. 2:Bulis may have found his 'niche' on a checking line,but seems to me he should be playing more than 8 minutes per game.
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