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Post by HFTO on Feb 6, 2002 23:20:54 GMT -5
Doug Gilmour was on the Fan 590 in Toronto this afternoon and seemed really pumped about the team and his play.He really likes the change in the teams attitude and thinks they have a great shot at the playoffs.If the Habs do make the playoffs does Gilmour return next season?It maybe a bit premature to ask this question but furthermore at his current pace he most likely will be our leading scorer.
HFTO
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Post by clear observer on Feb 6, 2002 23:29:07 GMT -5
If the Habs make the play-offs alot of credit should, and I'm certain will, go towards Gilmour's play. He has brough alot to the table. Turning your back on a future hall-of-famer after a season where he leads the team to the post-season would be disastrous in the PR dept. If Killer wants to stay...Habs will, as they should, roll out the red carpet.
Yet again, another good topic,
CO
p.s.
Just the minimum 2 play-off home games will have paid his entire years salary alone!
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 6, 2002 23:30:50 GMT -5
Definitely door #4 for me. I'll admit it took a loooooooooong time for me to ever get around to accepting Killer as a good addition, but he's been one of the guy that ended his slump and picked up the pace in January.
I'd sure love to have Gilmour patrolling a 4th line with Kilger and Petrov next year when everyone is back healthy. It would be a great insurance policy to have. But Dougie wanted to end his carreer on a high note and being an essential part of getting the HABS back into the playoff could be just that.
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Post by Cranky on Feb 6, 2002 23:40:56 GMT -5
Doc, I know you took a long time to jump on the bandwagon but did you forget the rope I tied around your ankle and dragged behind the wagon?
No, no Killer for me thanks, I had enough waddling for one season. First and foremost, he is going to get worse. He is not exactly the most gifted or the strongest. He relies on hard work from an increasingly older body.
The heart may want too, but the body ain't. It's time for the kids to come up.
P.S. I would trade him in a heart beat at the deadline. He only came to the Hab's for the money. His heart is in TO.
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Post by WhyteKnight63 on Feb 7, 2002 0:01:37 GMT -5
I say exercise the option and bring him back. He has earned it. He is the first to say that missing training camp hindered his play. He was also recently quoted as saying that if Montreal wants him, they should sign him in the summer, rather than give him a late start again. This goes to show that he is a true professional and that he is concerned about his level of play. Can you say that about ALL Habs players?
Furthermore, he is one of the rare true leaders that we have on the team. He also has more playoff experience than anyone on this team.
I think he has played to a level that warrants us to sign him again and, despite his age, he still shows more game in game out than most younger players.
Cheers!
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Post by Habsolutely on Feb 7, 2002 13:41:34 GMT -5
You bring him back without even hesitating.
Doug Gilmour was always honest with the media and the fans.. saying that he needed time to get back on track.. and that's exactly what he did.
Although we are not hanging out with the team on a regular basis, I have no problem to imagine his huge impact on our young players.. like Zednik, Markov, Ribeiro and Bulis.
He has to stay.
Another good move by Savard.. again and again.
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Post by Bobs_HABit on Feb 7, 2002 15:28:12 GMT -5
Have to agree with Habs Addict. If you get a deal for him at the deadline, give him the courtesy of rejecting it and if he's ok with it you deal him. It's through clenched teeth that I say bring him back in a reduced role next season if he still wishes to play but he's only getting older and slower and I wish he would just retire. I've never been a Gilmour fan and unless he carries the Cup around the ice in our colours I never will be. His play of late has been a pleasant surprise but I can't shake the fact that when we play Toronto (watch this Saturday) he goes about it half-assed and he definitely won't stick any of their players.
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Post by habmeister on Feb 7, 2002 15:40:03 GMT -5
I was always on the gilmour bandwagon. There are a lack of players in this league with genuine heart who will push themselves to their absolute limit and expect nothing less from teammates. The thing about players like Gilmour, is that they make the players around them better. Not only by the way he plays but even more so by example. A young kid who is trying to make this lineup sees this old geezer outworking everybody on the team and giving everything to win.
It can't help but rub off on all of his teammates and especially the young guys. Not to mention what he brings to the dressing room.
He is an absolute beauty as cherry would say.
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Post by Ryan on Feb 7, 2002 17:58:24 GMT -5
Gilmour proved that he can still play, just like he said. If he feels the same way next Fall, then he's gotta come back.
Just like Doc said, I project a fourth line of Killer, Kilger, and Petrov. These guys can get some minutes during the game, and fill in where needed during the season on the top lines in case of injury.
I am all for bringing up kids, but as far as I can tell we've got nobody to fit the roll of 4th line center in Quebec. And of all the vets I'll take Gilmour over Darby and VanAllen.
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Post by MPLABBE on Feb 7, 2002 19:00:15 GMT -5
It all depends on how Saku feels.Remember,Dougie was brought in to replace Saku(in other words,Saku stays healthy,Dougie isn't here).
I think Savard sees it the same way,that is why Dougie has a club option for next year.
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Post by BadCompany on Feb 7, 2002 21:03:30 GMT -5
I thought I read somewhere not too long ago that Gilmour said he was retiring? Didn't he say that with Saku doing so well, that the team was in fine hands and that with the way he was playing he felt like he could retire on his own terms?
I swear I thought I read that. I know Gilmour has said he was going to retire before, and then didn't do it, but he's got to do it sometime, no?
As for trading him, I say no way. Unless the draft pick coming back had an "st" at the end of, or the player was somebody who steps in right way, it just isn't worth it. We are in the midst of a playoff race with HUGE ramifications for the overall health of the FRANCHISE and Gilmour has been a key part of that. Not just on the ice, but in the dressing room as well. His veteran presence will be sorely needed during the pressure cooker days down the stretch. Have you forgotten the benign-nine right after the trade deadline? That's our season right there. I say we keep him.
As for bringing him back next year, I say why not? As others have pointed out, our organization is woefully lacking in centers, what with Bulis, Ribeiro and Chouinard now all on the wings (and doing much better there) there is no immediate help coming. Sure, Saku might be back, but that is still a might, and he was injury prone to begin with, I don't imagine that has changed all that much.
If he's willing to accept the lesser role, with the promise that he gets to move up with injuries, I would gladly take him on the 4th line. If Juneau, Perrault or Koivu get injured, Dougie is a more than adequate replacement for any of those guys.
If he wants to continue being 2nd line center though... Well, that might get touchy...
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Post by Pam on Feb 8, 2002 6:44:37 GMT -5
Before Gilmour signed with the Habs a Leafs fan I know posted a question on a board. Should Gilmour return to the Leafs? I replied to him by saying I would always love Dougie but I didn't think he was what they needed now. I didn't think he had it anymore. Boy was I wrong!! Maybe Dougie is just what the Leafs did need. We'll never know now. I'm very happy that Dougie is doing so well in Montreal. It was great to see him again. But Dougie will always be a Leaf as far as I am concerned. A Leaf that just happens to be wearing a Habs Jersey right now. I love the Habs "Leafs line" especially when it is Berezin-Perreault-Gilmour. ;D That line got the GWG against the Sharks. Since the Sharks had to lose to the Habs, I'm glad it was done by the "Leafs line."
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Post by MPLABBE on Feb 8, 2002 16:46:39 GMT -5
I thought I read somewhere not too long ago that Gilmour said he was retiring? Didn't he say that with Saku doing so well, that the team was in fine hands and that with the way he was playing he felt like he could retire on his own terms? I swear I thought I read that. I know Gilmour has said he was going to retire before, and then didn't do it, but he's got to do it sometime, no? As for trading him, I say no way. Unless the draft pick coming back had an "st" at the end of, or the player was somebody who steps in right way, it just isn't worth it. We are in the midst of a playoff race with HUGE ramifications for the overall health of the FRANCHISE and Gilmour has been a key part of that. Not just on the ice, but in the dressing room as well. His veteran presence will be sorely needed during the pressure cooker days down the stretch. Have you forgotten the benign-nine right after the trade deadline? That's our season right there. I say we keep him. As for bringing him back next year, I say why not? As others have pointed out, our organization is woefully lacking in centers, what with Bulis, Ribeiro and Chouinard now all on the wings (and doing much better there) there is no immediate help coming. Sure, Saku might be back, but that is still a might, and he was injury prone to begin with, I don't imagine that has changed all that much. If he's willing to accept the lesser role, with the promise that he gets to move up with injuries, I would gladly take him on the 4th line. If Juneau, Perrault or Koivu get injured, Dougie is a more than adequate replacement for any of those guys. If he wants to continue being 2nd line center though... Well, that might get touchy... The story you are talking about was in the Gazette about 3 weeks ago.Gilmour was talking about his daughter who is in the 12 or 13th grade and how he needed to be with her starting next year. |
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