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Post by Cranky on Jan 26, 2002 23:58:23 GMT -5
Apparently St. Savard had been working on Savard/Berezin deal for the last 15 days and yet he did not take one minute to call me and tell me about it. Not one lousy minute. And to think that I bought him lunch over at the local McDonalds. He even nipped me for large fries. Oh well. There is one thing that is a trademark of his deals. They are unpredictable. The man has a set of rules that he abides by in his trades. 1. He is not rushed into any trades. Patience. 2. He is building to win now. His aim is the playoffs. All his trades are for serviceable NHLers. Conservative and steady. Unspectacular and practical. 3. He is not afraid to spend a little money, but, George has not given him the Platinum Card. So, we have the foundation for his trading “modus operandi ”. Now, since I am a closet General Manager (aren’t we all?), just waiting to get that call from George, I need to tell St. Savard where his largest problem lies. In my opinion, the next problem that needs some attention is a large center and/or forward. Not a knuckle dragging “project” that has potential, but rather a serious, higher echelon player that can give the Hab’s some bite up front. Leadership abilities would also help. Forget Chris Gratton and the like. We have plenty of 3rd and 4th liners depth now. We have to move up the chart. Here are some names. Ducks….Paul Kariya (2nd choice) Boston….Gueren Canes….Ron Brind’Amour (my 1st choice) Hawks…Amonte, Zhamnov Star…Turgeon Kings…Allison (3rd choice) Devils…Holik Isles…Isbister, Peca Rangers…Nedved Sens…Bonk Cayotes…Doan Blues…Demetra Sharks…Sealnne Bolts….Lecavalier Nucks…Cassels, Bertuzzi, Caps….Bondra HabsAddict…Wife(please trade her) All of these guys are first and second line material that will make a difference to out short and medium term performance. St. Savard has reached a point where he can make 2 for 1 and 3 for 1 trades. We know that he will not trade a substanital part of the future so what does he have to offer? Berezin, Hackett, any two defenseman, any forward(s). It would preferably start with Hack. Forget Theo, Hainsey, Komi, Saku and Brisebois. So I have narrowed it down to a few thousand permutations. Since everyone on this board is shy in expressing an opinion, I expect to have one or two responses. As for me, I want Brindy to lead the boys to battle. Failing that, add Kariya to the Hab’s front line and hold your breath. “Run and gun” will take a new meaning. Can you imagine the speed of the forwards. Sheesh, they are going to pave the ice to slow them down. Anybody care to hazard a guess?  |
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 27, 2002 12:31:02 GMT -5
In my opinion, the next problem that needs some attention is a large center and/or forward. Not a knuckle dragging “project” that has potential, but rather a serious, higher echelon player that can give the Hab’s some bite up front. Leadership abilities would also help. Forget Chris Gratton and the like. We have plenty of 3rd and 4th liners depth now. We have to move up the chart. Here are some names. Ducks….Paul Kariya (2nd choice) Boston….Gueren Canes….Ron Brind’Amour (my 1st choice) Hawks…Amonte, Zhamnov Star…Turgeon Kings…Allison (3rd choice) Devils…Holik Isles…Isbister, Peca Rangers…Nedved Sens…Bonk Cayotes…Doan Blues…Demetra Sharks…Sealnne Bolts….Lecavalier Nucks…Cassels, Bertuzzi, Caps….Bondra HabsAddict…Wife(please trade her) All of these guys are first and second line material that will make a difference to out short and medium term performance. St. Savard has reached a point where he can make 2 for 1 and 3 for 1 trades. We know that he will not trade a substanital part of the future so what does he have to offer? Berezin, Hackett, any two defenseman, any forward(s). It would preferably start with Hack. Forget Theo, Hainsey, Komi, Saku and Brisebois. So I have narrowed it down to a few thousand permutations. Since everyone on this board is shy in expressing an opinion, I expect to have one or two responses. As for me, I want Brindy to lead the boys to battle. Failing that, add Kariya to the Hab’s front line and hold your breath. “Run and gun” will take a new meaning. Can you imagine the speed of the forwards. Sheesh, they are going to pave the ice to slow them down. Anybody care to hazard a guess? Woah there,almost everyone on that list is an untouchable and those who could be available are either UFA's at the end of the year or are worth more than we can offer in a trade.BUT,we HAVE to get bigger,we are looking more and more like Ottawa pre2001 |
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Post by Cranky on Jan 27, 2002 13:46:39 GMT -5
It seems that you and me MLABBE are the only one that can get around the problems. Talking about hardcore.
I do not know about this "untouchable" monicker you are placing on them. A lot of them have rumours attached to them. Lacavalier, Kariya, Allison just got traded, Selanne, etc.
It is hard to see what AS will do next, but, I think he can afford to pull a 2 to 1 or 3 to 1. I do not think that Reorge will have a problem spending 5 million. Especially if they get rid of Hack.
Like I said above, I would like Kariya over Selanne, or someone who has leadership oozing from every pore. Brind'Amour is one of those leaders. A club could never have to many leaders. Never. Unless they have "leaders" like Salvage.
Thoughts?
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 27, 2002 19:01:36 GMT -5
It seems that you and me MLABBE are the only one that can get around the problems. Talking about hardcore. I do not know about this "untouchable" monicker you are placing on them. A lot of them have rumours attached to them. Lacavalier, Kariya, Allison just got traded, Selanne, etc. It is hard to see what AS will do next, but, I think he can afford to pull a 2 to 1 or 3 to 1. I do not think that Reorge will have a problem spending 5 million. Especially if they get rid of Hack. Like I said above, I would like Kariya over Selanne, or someone who has leadership oozing from every pore. Brind'Amour is one of those leaders. A club could never have to many leaders. Never. Unless they have "leaders" like Salvage. Thoughts? I seriously doubt a guy like Allison will be traded.Kings have basically pined their hopes on him.As for guys like Lecavalier and Karya,I hope you don't think a combination of the players we want to deal(Hackett,Souray,Traverse,etc) is enough to get them.I also think Savard can now make a 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 deal,but the '1' he is getting,better be big and strong,because it's obvious against physical teams,we will get pushed around.I am really stunned that a team like SJ didn't try to hammer us today.IF I was a coach,and I was playing the Habs,I would ask my players to forecheck the Habs to death and mash them along the boards. |
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Post by legaspesien on Jan 27, 2002 21:34:03 GMT -5
The arrival of Berezin open the door out for Petrov I suspect petrov pack with a defance as the next move
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 27, 2002 21:37:14 GMT -5
The arrival of Berezin open the door out for Petrov I suspect petrov pack with a defance as the next move IF they deal Petrov,they better get something very good in return.This guy is an underated player,very underated. |
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Post by habwest on Jan 28, 2002 0:03:04 GMT -5
Well HA, here I am to take up the challenge; dozer's warmed up and ready to go.
Ducks-Kariya. That would be the final nail in Gauthier's coffin. Maybe if he's fired and the new guys decide to rebuild but then the asking price would be very high- Koivu, Hainsey, Berezin, pick? Too much for me.
Boston-Guerin. A true 30G/60points power forward. Talk about rare. The Bruins have a real chance at the Cup this year and so unless they get a big return I kind of think they'll keep him and risk resigning. Of course their owner & GM have shown they don't give a hoot about their fans but I don't think that they'd do it except for something big, which we don't have. Unless Savard started throwing in Hainsey, Komi etc.
Canes-Brind'Amour. A leader, but not big (Bulis size). Scratching to get into playoffs with real good chance, again return would have to have immediate impact. Don't think Perreault by himself would do it but they look like they could use a dman or two; they're 9th in scoring but 28th in GA. They probably could use a goalie too but hack isn't worth more than a "throw in" right now- he's probably worth more to us than anyone else. Perreault and Souray for Brind'Amour? Might be a tad much as he's 32 this summer.
Hawks-Amonte, Zhamnov. Amonte is an UFA, wouldn't even consider unless he's signed as part of the deal. Below the average size wise(he's 6' 195, average is 6'1" 205 but that's probably skewered by these monster dmen), scores a ton and regularly. Love to have him. Zhamnov is a center of good size but not big. Playmaking center with accurate shot, looks like Perreault with a few more assists point wise. Is 31 don't know his contract status. I seem to remember reading he's one of those guys with a complicated personality. Hawks are #6 in scoring but #21 in GA, right ahead of our boys. They're kidding themselves if they think Thibault is good enough to take them to the promised land as he's far down in Save % at.901, 33rd among goalies who have played 18+ games. However Hack ain't going to do it I don't think, unless he's a secondary player. They really do need help on defence tho': Youngest is near 28 rest are 30, 32, 33, 37, 38. Only 5 play regularly and most are small, 3 regs are iunder 6'. From Habs perspective trade around Souray and or Rivet would appear best bet. I suspect Perreault would hav to be part of any deal for Zhamnov as he's their top center although they do have Nylander (hmm). So is Perreault and Souray or Rivet (and maybe Hack, depending) for a 31, 32 early next season, Zhamnov and ? really worth it? I don't know Zhamnov enough to answer that question. Regarding Amonte, Souray and/or Rivet and/or a winger for Amonte and ? I wouldn't want to see Zednik go and I suspect that's who Chicago would go after.
Stars-Turgeon. I would have said he might well be traded before Hitch and Gainey were fired. Now I'm not so sure. It's not clear to me what the new coach will do in terms of how he wants the team toplay. If he moves away from the iron maiden trap to a more congenial system for skilled offensive players, Turgeon might just not come up on the market. And senior management in Dallas might just want to take the rest of this year to see if they have to rebuild or not. Right now Dallas is #15 in GF and #18! in GA. Belfour is playing poorly but in Turco it appears they have their future goalie: #9 in GAA among goalies who've played 18 games and #7 in Save %.
They probably could use help at both forward and defence although I wonder if the problems with GA are mainly due to Belfour. They have 8 dmen in good, big, even bigger sizes, a couple who rack up the points pretty good (Zubov, Sydor). And overall their +/- aren't too bad. And they're not old. Not a good match for the Habs. When you look at their forwards they seem to be leaning over to port with a surfeit of LW, 6 to be exact, and a shortage of RW, 3. Furthermore they only have 4 centers listed although ol' Muller can do so as well. So I expect that in any trade they're going to be looking for youth at RW and center. Perreault, Ribiero, Zednik, Asham? Since Turgeon will be 33 before next season and is having a lousy year and isn't a big forward, I don't really know if I'd want to pony up Perreault and Zednik; nope.
Better post this thing before the machine burps. Will finish it later if I'm suddenly inspired.
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Post by Cranky on Jan 28, 2002 1:10:41 GMT -5
You know my d@mn tongue is hanging out waiting for the rest----->  <----see what I mean! By the way, you notice that sometimes I go in and correct your.....err....mistakes.......noooo...........I meant the machines mistakes. If you need any help with the board and posting, JUST ASK. I know how old people have difficulty with new technology. I am still working on a gif to stick on your picture. I WILL find one sooner or later. |
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Post by habwest on Jan 28, 2002 2:08:22 GMT -5
I feel like I am getting inside his head,  . Why is there so much echo in here?  Must be from all all this empty space. Thanks for fixing..fat fingers and all that. How do you go in and fix things up? The only thing is that my mouse doesn't work... which is why I can't use the cursor to fix things up. I assume that this is due to the problems that "ProBoards" (harack...spit hey, you hit my shoe) are having with the software. And here they're already advertising their spiffy new server, as if that'll do anybody any good. whine, whine, whine, no wonder his dog ran awayAmateurs, what can I say. Just once I'd like to own a company just to fire somebody who does this kind of stuff. bureacracy boy's dreaming againLet me know if you can tool around with your mouse and cursor..if it's just me I'll send Spiro an email begging for help. Poor guy. now he wants to know how I use my tool, sheesh, hey, is he making a pass at me? Cheers.
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Post by habwest on Jan 28, 2002 4:25:32 GMT -5
Well here I am for installment two in response to HA's wish list.
Kings- Allison. Well, finally a truely big center, 6'3", 218. Not fast but you can't have everything. When he plays 80 games he's been a 75-95 point player. A hard point per game. Except this year he's running a bit behind at 35 points in 42 games and while the Kings have been hot in January at 9-3 he's only had 7 points and he did that in 4 games so he's been shut out in 8 games to date in Jan. Even so he still leads the Kings in scoring. Zigmund Palffy (I love that name) has led the January resurgence.
Zo, vat do de Kinks need? Well they're #19 in GF and #5 in GA. Also, the King's defence has 74 assists to lead the League. They have 8 dmen on the roster most around the prime age with Schneider being the oldest at 32. The youngest is 24 and plays regularly. And, except for the youngster, they all have ggod size. Why even our old friend Mathieu has grown 2" and put on 15 lbs since moving to the west coast. As to their goaltending, I don't think that Potvin is the answer to a Cup run (sorry Pam), he's #18 in GA, with a 2.38 average, among players who've played 18+ games and with a Save % of .905 stands only 26th. They do, however, have Jamie Storr who has only played 16 games but has a GAA of 1.89 and a Save % of .923. These are right up there with the best. So assuming Storr is the solution for the future, and looking at what their defence has done I don't think they need Hack or any of our dmen.
On the other hand they could use scoring up front but since Allison is their top point getter and a proven scorer in the past it wouldn't seem to make sense to me for them to trade with the Habs unless it were something like Perreault and Zednik or Berezin. Berezin would fit there forward suite better as they have a veritable plethora of RWers with 6 while they're short on the left as one of their LW Belanger(they have 2, other's a center) is on IR; so is #2 Belanger for that matter. In any case their scoring is pretty thin at LW with only Johnson doing decently with 21 points. And they have pretty good size at center w/o Allison in Smolinski, Laperriere and Mair and are big on LW.
Right now things are going pretty well for the Kings and they probably can afford to wait on Allison to rediscover his scoring touch. But if they started to slide maybe they'd be interested in a Perreault and Berezin (especially if they pick up their scoring) for Allison deal. Question is would the Habs be as if P&B are a hot number and Allison is merely OK would Savard risk it? The team isn't yet strong at LW with proven top 2 line talent. I kind of doubt that he would do that kind of a 2 for 1. Top two lines of Zednik/Gilmour/Petrov and Ribiero/Allison/Asham? Nah. Now if the Habs fall out of the hunt before a trade and Savard were fairly certain about Audette being able to regain his touch, then I can see that kind of 2 for 1 deal. It would be insurance for Koivu (I don't expect Gilmour to be with the Habs next year even if the team wanted him; he really wants to be with his daughter in TO). The top two lines might then look like Ribiero or Chouinard/ Allison/Audette and Zednik/Koivu/Petrov. A big guy like Allison might be just the ticket to help Ribiero get more space.
That's it for now. More later.
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 28, 2002 11:46:14 GMT -5
Well here I am for installment two in response to HA's wish list. Kings- Allison. Well, finally a truely big center, 6'3", 218. Not fast but you can't have everything. When he plays 80 games he's been a 75-95 point player. A hard point per game. Except this year he's running a bit behind at 35 points in 42 games and while the Kings have been hot in January at 9-3 he's only had 7 points and he did that in 4 games so he's been shut out in 8 games to date in Jan. Even so he still leads the Kings in scoring. Zigmund Palffy (I love that name) has led the January resurgence. Zo, vat do de Kinks need? Well they're #19 in GF and #5 in GA. Also, the King's defence has 74 assists to lead the League. They have 8 dmen on the roster most around the prime age with Schneider being the oldest at 32. The youngest is 24 and plays regularly. And, except for the youngster, they all have ggod size. Why even our old friend Mathieu has grown 2" and put on 15 lbs since moving to the west coast. As to their goaltending, I don't think that Potvin is the answer to a Cup run (sorry Pam), he's #18 in GA, with a 2.38 average, among players who've played 18+ games and with a Save % of .905 stands only 26th. They do, however, have Jamie Storr who has only played 16 games but has a GAA of 1.89 and a Save % of .923. These are right up there with the best. So assuming Storr is the solution for the future, and looking at what their defence has done I don't think they need Hack or any of our dmen. On the other hand they could use scoring up front but since Allison is their top point getter and a proven scorer in the past it wouldn't seem to make sense to me for them to trade with the Habs unless it were something like Perreault and Zednik or Berezin. Berezin would fit there forward suite better as they have a veritable plethora of RWers with 6 while they're short on the left as one of their LW Belanger(they have 2, other's a center) is on IR; so is #2 Belanger for that matter. In any case their scoring is pretty thin at LW with only Johnson doing decently with 21 points. And they have pretty good size at center w/o Allison in Smolinski, Laperriere and Mair and are big on LW. Right now things are going pretty well for the Kings and they probably can afford to wait on Allison to rediscover his scoring touch. But if they started to slide maybe they'd be interested in a Perreault and Berezin (especially if they pick up their scoring) for Allison deal. Question is would the Habs be as if P&B are a hot number and Allison is merely OK would Savard risk it? The team isn't yet strong at LW with proven top 2 line talent. I kind of doubt that he would do that kind of a 2 for 1. Top two lines of Zednik/Gilmour/Petrov and Ribiero/Allison/Asham? Nah. Now if the Habs fall out of the hunt before a trade and Savard were fairly certain about Audette being able to regain his touch, then I can see that kind of 2 for 1 deal. It would be insurance for Koivu (I don't expect Gilmour to be with the Habs next year even if the team wanted him; he really wants to be with his daughter in TO). The top two lines might then look like Ribiero or Chouinard/ Allison/Audette and Zednik/Koivu/Petrov. A big guy like Allison might be just the ticket to help Ribiero get more space. That's it for now. More later. I will say it again,But you guys are dreaming in color if you think Allison will be traded.Centers like him,just entering their prime, signed to a new 3 year deal are not available.Kings got him to play with Deader,Ziggy and eventually Frolov,Camalleri,Aulin,Karlsson,etc.He is gonna be their #1 center,the guy who will set up all those talented goal scorers. |
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Post by habwest on Jan 28, 2002 20:51:33 GMT -5
Actually, I'm so old I dream in black and white. But anyway I think that you're probably right. They'll never get that desparate and even if they did other teams would be able to make better offers. But then again before his contract squabble who would have thought that he wuld be traded. If he is again, remember you heard it here first. If I make enough predictions, who knows one of them might just be right. Besides, the funs in digging up the info and the anaylsis. I mean, would you have known that Mathieu Schneider had grown 2" and gained 15 lbs since leaving the Habs unless I had included it in my post? No? Well there you are. Cheers  |
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 28, 2002 22:02:46 GMT -5
Actually, I'm so old I dream in black and white. But anyway I think that you're probably right. They'll never get that desparate and even if they did other teams would be able to make better offers. But then again before his contract squabble who would have thought that he wuld be traded. If he is again, remember you heard it here first. If I make enough predictions, who knows one of them might just be right. Besides, the funs in digging up the info and the anaylsis. I mean, would you have known that Mathieu Schneider had grown 2" and gained 15 lbs since leaving the Habs unless I had included it in my post? No? Well there you are. Cheers Seriously,you had to see it as a possibility last year.Bruins had to re-sign Guerin,had to re-sign Dafoe,etc.They wanted to pick up a few FA's(O'Donnell,Lapointe,etc) and with Big Joe around,it was obvious they could deal Allison to improve their depth.That is exactly what happened.Murray has played very well for them and Stumpel is starting to heat up. |
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Post by Cranky on Jan 29, 2002 0:22:46 GMT -5
Hey HW,
I find your post intersting and thorough. AS USUALL.
The problem with trades is that there is so many permutations, that it is very hard to predict who is going where.
I went through the hockey guide, team by team and looked at their entire rosters to see who would fit.
I am glad you took up the challange. Can you imagine AS day. He must get 10 faxes a day with trade proposals. Makes you wonder what keeps him sane.
Anyway, I am enjoying your work.
Keep it up if you like.
TNX
HA
P.S. When is the paperback version comming out?
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Post by habwest on Jan 29, 2002 0:37:34 GMT -5
Sorry, didn't mean to belittle your point. You are certainly right in saying that last season you could see it coming. But my qualifier said pre contract squabbles which meant before last season and the hold out. And I think that the hold out was what precipitated the trade, not the desire to improve their depth. In other words if Allison had signed there would have been no trade IMO. Which argument actually reenforces your original point. I remember at the time that the trade took some heat as Stumpel and Murray weren't seen to be consistenly living up to their potential and were thought to be a couple of Bruin 'retreads'. Well it seems the Bruins are getting the last laugh on this one, at least this year. Concerning saving $ to sign Guerin, according to NHPLA figures the Bruins have saved 875,000. Guerin currently gets $5.1M and my guess would be with a 30+ goal, 60+ point season on the way and with not as many top players available as last year would be looking for something in the $7M range. You'd think that the Bruins would be willing to go for that but I kind of think that they're so cheap and pig headed about the way they deal with their players that they won't end up signing him anyway. Getting back to your basic point that the Kings are unlikely to trade Allison, like I said I don't think that they'll get that desparate and you're right. It wouldn't make hockey sense especially if they're in the playoff race. My point in putting forward options from a habs perspective was to say, supposing that they decided to do this, what could the Habs offer, would it be enough for the other team, would it be too much for the Habs, would the habs be a good fit for a trade with the Kings or whichever of the teams I'm talking about. Basically exploring the situation. Just kind of an analytical exercise, thinking out loud kind of, to see what I can learn. And as far as prognosticating, heck I'm no better than anyone else here it's just my opinion and nothing more than that. Cheers.  |
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 29, 2002 18:12:06 GMT -5
Sorry, didn't mean to belittle your point. You are certainly right in saying that last season you could see it coming. But my qualifier said pre contract squabbles which meant before last season and the hold out. And I think that the hold out was what precipitated the trade, not the desire to improve their depth. In other words if Allison had signed there would have been no trade IMO. Which argument actually reenforces your original point. I remember at the time that the trade took some heat as Stumpel and Murray weren't seen to be consistenly living up to their potential and were thought to be a couple of Bruin 'retreads'. Well it seems the Bruins are getting the last laugh on this one, at least this year. Concerning saving $ to sign Guerin, according to NHPLA figures the Bruins have saved 875,000. Guerin currently gets $5.1M and my guess would be with a 30+ goal, 60+ point season on the way and with not as many top players available as last year would be looking for something in the $7M range. You'd think that the Bruins would be willing to go for that but I kind of think that they're so cheap and pig headed about the way they deal with their players that they won't end up signing him anyway. Getting back to your basic point that the Kings are unlikely to trade Allison, like I said I don't think that they'll get that desparate and you're right. It wouldn't make hockey sense especially if they're in the playoff race. My point in putting forward options from a habs perspective was to say, supposing that they decided to do this, what could the Habs offer, would it be enough for the other team, would it be too much for the Habs, would the habs be a good fit for a trade with the Kings or whichever of the teams I'm talking about. Basically exploring the situation. Just kind of an analytical exercise, thinking out loud kind of, to see what I can learn. And as far as prognosticating, heck I'm no better than anyone else here it's just my opinion and nothing more than that. Cheers. Speaking of holdouts,I hope in the new CBA,something is done to avoid them,like in MLB(that is actually one of the few positives of MLB).If the 2 parties haven't signed a new deal by a certain date,depending on the experience of the player,you either get renewed automatically or you go to arbitration. |
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Post by habwest on Jan 29, 2002 18:44:29 GMT -5
Yea, that would be nice but I think that the owners will fight that one. I don't have the stats to prove this but my impression is that arbitration leads to upward salary creep. All it takes is for one decision favouring one player then all subsequent arbitrators start comparing and, since they're often not hockey smart, all a player needs are a bit better numbers than Paluka over in Carrotville and the award is in his favour. I also have a vague recollection of hearing that the owners were against it but I could be wrong.
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Post by PTH on Jan 29, 2002 20:23:01 GMT -5
I very much agree with MPLABBE on this one - getting the players under contract is really in everyone's favour, IMO. The players lose some leverage, but it means that owners lose some too.
Basically, we could finally do without all the camp holdouts and junk that comes along with it.
I'd have arbitration, and either side can walk away from it - owners can already do so, I'd give players the right to turn down the deal too - but it would also mean that they couldn't play in the NHL for the season.
We could then follow hockey more than contracts....
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 30, 2002 10:05:27 GMT -5
Yea, that would be nice but I think that the owners will fight that one. I don't have the stats to prove this but my impression is that arbitration leads to upward salary creep. All it takes is for one decision favouring one player then all subsequent arbitrators start comparing and, since they're often not hockey smart, all a player needs are a bit better numbers than Paluka over in Carrotville and the award is in his favour. I also have a vague recollection of hearing that the owners were against it but I could be wrong. No,the owners get their goodies in here too.IN MLB,it takes 6 years to be a FA,in the NHL it can take 12.For the first 3 years of a MLB player's career,he will make only 300K per season, if he doesn't sign a long term deal.In the NHL,we could make it 3-5 years at an automatic low salary like that.IF teams want to sign young players to long term deals,they can,but if they don't,the players are forced to sign at the end of the summer,thus avoiding holdouts from young players like Lecavalier,Allison,Peca,etc which only make the game worse,and not better. |
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 30, 2002 10:08:56 GMT -5
I very much agree with MPLABBE on this one - getting the players under contract is really in everyone's favour, IMO. The players lose some leverage, but it means that owners lose some too. Basically, we could finally do without all the camp holdouts and junk that comes along with it. I'd have arbitration, and either side can walk away from it - owners can already do so, I'd give players the right to turn down the deal too - but it would also mean that they couldn't play in the NHL for the season. We could then follow hockey more than contracts.... What I hate about holdouts,it's when it happens to a young,very talented player like Vincent Lecavalier.A 21 year old kid should never be in a position to holdout like that.He missed camp,it killed him for the first 40 games.Only recently he has been playing to the level we accept.And it sucks when it happens to established,in their prime stars,like Allison,Khabibulin,Primeau,Peca,etc.The NHL needs their best stars playing at their very best level and not holding out. |
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