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Post by habernac on Dec 2, 2005 17:45:49 GMT -5
and traded Roy to the Avalanche. This team hasn't been the same since. Where were you when it happened?
I had just moved to Calgary, Alberta. Patrick had actually shut out the Flames weeks before, so I had unknowningly seen his last shutout as a Canadien. I was in disbelief then, and I still am. A stupid mistake by a rookie coach and an even worse one by the rookie GM.
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Post by Yeti on Dec 2, 2005 18:07:31 GMT -5
Savard was fired minutes before trading Roy to the Avs for Fiset and Nolan. That's a well documented fact now. Corey fired Savard to prevent him for trading Roy. The plan backfired...  Nolan was an excellent player between 1995 and 2001. |
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Post by CentreHice on Dec 2, 2005 18:13:36 GMT -5
Savard was fired minutes before trading Roy to the Avs for Fiset and Nolan. That's a well documented fact now. Corey fired Savard to prevent him for trading Roy. The plan backfired... Nolan was an excellent player between 1995 and 2001. That trade would have been a better deal than receiving Thibault, Kovalenko, and Ruczinski......and we wouldn't have lost Keane. I admire Mario Tremblay for what he brought to the Habs as a player....as coach....well the +/- pretty much =s out. What was I doing at the time.....still getting over the fact that Tremblay left Roy in for all those goals against the Wings....in the hallowed Forum, of all places..... I know what Tremblay was thinking....old school....Scotty Bowman..... "You think you're bigger than the team, Patrick?" You know what.....when you look back at 86 and 93...two Cups...two Conn Smythes....Roy had every reason to think that. Perhaps he shouldn't have.....but that stuff HAS to go to your head. But...he gets the trade to the former Nords...and continues on his winning ways. Is Pierre Lacroix still counting his money? The Habs have never recovered....perhaps we wouldn't have won another Cup with Patrick, our nucleus was talently-challenged at that point...but our chances went completely out of the window with that trade. This year is the first since then that we can be even the slightest bit optimistic. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2005 18:34:38 GMT -5
I remember being tormented by my 10-year-old friends about how the Canadiens got shelled 11-1.
I was at home, in London.
Thibault was playing with a hot hand for the rest of that season, though. For a while, it looked like the trade was working out.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Dec 2, 2005 20:45:35 GMT -5
Reading (and watching) the comments from both sides, that wound is still not healed...
Until the HABS are back at being a contender, this trade will always be the milestone at which we can say, "...this is when the Canadiens entered their darkest era...". Sometimes I wonder if I'll live to see the day where it will be said "...and this is when it ended...".
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Post by drkcloud on Dec 2, 2005 22:54:53 GMT -5
The darkest day in habs history. Worse than Morenz, worse than the Richard suspension.
My stomach still drops when I think of it. Greatest goalie of all time, his performance in '86 helped those of us still in pain from the way we treated lafleur.
Houle was an idiot and totally out of depth. So was Tremblay but there was just a little malevolence there. A battle of egos and Tremblay had not the smarts or skills to deal with it. And he was so smug about it. I had cheered for him as a kid but to this day I had better not catch him trying to cross a street.
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Post by habmeister on Dec 3, 2005 1:10:54 GMT -5
i actually cried the day that happenned. Myself and my roommate had the previous week bought two round trip tickets to see the last bruins game at the forum in january, as well as a jets game. At the time i was litereally a starving college student who had just moved from a small town to the big city of vancouver. My dream was about to come true to see my #1a favourite player of all time play in the church of hockey the forum and instead i still saw a classic win over the bruins, but it wasn't the same without Patrick Roy in nets.
To this day i've never forgotten that feeling, and we've never been close to winning a cup since.
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Post by roke on Dec 3, 2005 1:38:04 GMT -5
i actually cried the day that happenned. Myself and my roommate had the previous week bought two round trip tickets to see the last bruins game at the forum in january, as well as a jets game. At the time i was litereally a starving college student who had just moved from a small town to the big city of vancouver. My dream was about to come true to see my #1a favourite player of all time play in the church of hockey the forum and instead i still saw a classic win over the bruins, but it wasn't the same without Patrick Roy in nets. To this day i've never forgotten that feeling, and we've never been close to winning a cup since. I never made it to the forum, unfortuneatly but I remember my dad taking me to a Jets game against the Avs soon after the trade, I did get to see my favorite Hab at the time, but he was no longer a Hab and I didn't have an absolute favorite after that. |
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Post by habernac on Dec 3, 2005 12:54:35 GMT -5
Habaroni, I also was about to make my first trip to Montreal to see the last 2 games at the Forum. And though it was still a fantastic occasion, it would have been even better with St Pat there.
Every Friday at work is "jeans" day, we can also wear a sports jersey if we like. I had totally forgotten about this sad anniversary, and I just happened to put on old #33 yesterday. How ironic....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2005 13:43:44 GMT -5
"...this is when the Canadiens entered their darkest era...". Personally, I don't think the dark era started that "early". The team made the playoffs for the next three seasons. It were the trades afterwards that completely destroyed the team. Pierre Turgeon was in a scoring slump and was traded for Shayne Corson. Not a bad trade, though; Corson was a gritty player. Darcy Tucker was traded for Patrick Poulin. Then I think Poulin was traded for Juha Lind. I don't remember. Mark Recchi was traded for Dainius Zubrus Vincent Damphousse was just thrown away. Vladimir Malakhov was traded for Sheldon Souray. Jocelyn Thibault was then traded for Jeff Hackett. Hackett had a pretty lousy career. He had to backstop one lousy team after another. Finally, when moved to playoff teams like Boston and Philly, he was injured and forced to retire. I know there are other key trades that I'm missing. |
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Post by SiR on Dec 6, 2005 23:24:58 GMT -5
The Roy trade was just the first in a long line of gaffes made by Houle that the team is just now emerging from.
I recall being more pissed at Roy than anyone else when it happened. I didn't like his "I'm better than you" attitude in dealing with the situation. It wasn't until Houle started making even worse trades and Tremblay's ineptitude continued, that I started to realize what serious trouble the Habs were in. Soon it became clear who to direct the anger for the direction the team was heading and how the Roy situation was handled.
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