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Post by Skilly on Apr 18, 2014 23:53:28 GMT -5
I thought Prust rebounded & it was good to see him take on Gudas. Can't remember the last time Bourque scored twice in a Game. Wiese actually got kudos from Cherry for trying to setup Bourque for the empty netter. Feb 2, 2013
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Post by UberCranky on Apr 19, 2014 0:12:56 GMT -5
We all enjoyed the game, great, fantastic, BUT.....and there is always a butt....their defence is elite....for the AHL. And their backchecking needs a flashlight.
I hope the Hab players don't take the foot off the gas. We lost 2-0 leads three times before in the recent past and the last thing we need is to toil 6-7 games before moving on to tougher challanges.
Sorry for the cold air......
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 19, 2014 0:31:34 GMT -5
At some point it gets beyond ridiculous. He;s a punk which is worse than a goon. Yet he and his Bruins think he's the honourable gentleman that would never engage in anything cheap. Just like Ference and his malfunctioning equipment. So after he did the same act with Emelin, he claims his innocence as to how can anyone think he did something like that. He said “Just skating by him and that’s all. People are trying to say I speared him. I did not spear him, so that’s it.” What's gong to be the lame explanation this time. i don't expect much different form a Bruin but the League should be ashamed of itself. This is repugnant to anyone who has ever played any sport and in particular hockey: from behind and to the groin. REPREHENSIBLE!!!
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Post by seventeen on Apr 19, 2014 0:33:16 GMT -5
The Tampa 'leadership' called a players only meeting after the game. Undoubtedly that was to bare it all and impress upon each player how they aren't competing. I'd like to see us score 3 goals in the first 5 minutes on Sunday to impress upon the Tampa 'leadership', that they simply aren't good enough, and no amount of meetings is going to change the fact the Habs have better players and when they play together and compete hard, they are simply going to outscore Tampa, no matter how hard the Bolts try. Yes, they're a decent team, but they have one really good scorer, and they have a goalie who had an outstanding year. Take one of those two away and they're just not competitive. The key for the Habs is to keep playing exactly as they have been. If they expend the same amount of energy and win those individual battles, the series will be over in 4. Tampa's goaltending just isn't good enough to make up for the talent deficiency on defense and most of the forwards. I underrated the effect of Bishop's absence on the Bolts. I think they know it. I've played with goalies who just weren't good enough and they killed my team's spirit. It's happening with Tampa, so let's not take the foot off the gas, and put them away.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 19, 2014 0:36:30 GMT -5
At some point it gets beyond ridiculous. He;s a punk which is worse than a goon. Yet he and his Bruins think he's the honourable gentleman that would never engage in anything cheap. Just like Ference and his malfunctioning equipment. So after he did the same act with Emelin, he claims his innocence as to how can anyone think he did something like that. He said “Just skating by him and that’s all. People are trying to say I speared him. I did not spear him, so that’s it.” What's gong to be the lame explanation this time. i don't expect much different form a Bruin but the League should be ashamed of itself. This is repugnant to anyone who has ever played any sport and in particular hockey: from behind and to the groin. REPREHENSIBLE!!! I predict that perhaps he'll get a fine, but no suspension. The Bruins are too important to the guys actually making the decision in the NHL, and Lucic is too important to the Bruins (He really isn't that good, but everyone seems to give him the benefit of the doubt). Take away the intimidation factor and he's maybe slightly better than average on a skill basis. He gets a lot of time and space from intimidation. It would be satisfying to see him suspended for 3 to 5 for that cowardly act, but it won't happen.
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 19, 2014 1:10:09 GMT -5
At some point it gets beyond ridiculous. He;s a punk which is worse than a goon. Yet he and his Bruins think he's the honourable gentleman that would never engage in anything cheap. Just like Ference and his malfunctioning equipment. So after he did the same act with Emelin, he claims his innocence as to how can anyone think he did something like that. He said “Just skating by him and that’s all. People are trying to say I speared him. I did not spear him, so that’s it.” What's gong to be the lame explanation this time. i don't expect much different form a Bruin but the League should be ashamed of itself. This is repugnant to anyone who has ever played any sport and in particular hockey: from behind and to the groin. REPREHENSIBLE!!! I predict that perhaps he'll get a fine, but no suspension. The Bruins are too important to the guys actually making the decision in the NHL, and Lucic is too important to the Bruins (He really isn't that good, but everyone seems to give him the benefit of the doubt). Take away the intimidation factor and he's maybe slightly better than average on a skill basis. He gets a lot of time and space from intimidation. It would be satisfying to see him suspended for 3 to 5 for that cowardly act, but it won't happen. This will be Quintal's first major decision at the helm. He should want to show a firm hand. Would have been interesting what Shanny would have done with his Detroit ties. Haven't checked but i assume the Wings fans and media are outraged. Babcock is probably saying this is why we don't want players like Lucic anywhere near Team Canada. A complete embarrassment to the sport and the country. Junior B stuff!
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 19, 2014 1:16:57 GMT -5
We all enjoyed the game, great, fantastic, BUT.....and there is always a butt....their defence is elite....for the AHL. And their backchecking needs a flashlight. I hope the Hab players don't take the foot off the gas. We lost 2-0 leads three times before in the recent past and the last thing we need is to toil 6-7 games before moving on to tougher challanges. Sorry for the cold air...... You gotta save "the cold air" till tomorrow or Sunday. This is a time to celebrate our accomplishments. Two great road games. These are all steps towards a championship. Perhaps not this year but soon. If we do lose the next few games or the series it will be a learning experience; a painful one but one none the less. With our current leadership i don't see a meltdown. Also, TB is not a very good team. They were all smoke and mirrors with a goalie having a stellar year. Not unlike Ott last year. The reality is they aren't that good after Stamkos and maybe Hedman. And no Marty or Vinny!
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 19, 2014 1:40:02 GMT -5
Max's assist tonight was his first career playoff point. Wow. He doesn't have a lot of playoff experiences so may take him a while to get in the flow. Liked what i saw tonight. Vanek plays with such confidence. Max will be fine the next 2 home games.
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Post by christrpn on Apr 19, 2014 5:58:09 GMT -5
Max is and always will be a streaky player. He's played 7 PO games now. I see a burst of points coming. Even if we don't seem to notice our first line, they still have 5 points so far this post season. It's nice to see us win with dominance. Instead of scrapping by. There were a lot of questions regarding the TB lightning and all their rookies coming in the playoff pressure cooker. That crowd was dead even before the Habs took over. Hope Lindback and Gustl...that latvian goaltender can handles the Bell center, in the playoffs, with a team leading the series 2 games to none. www.youtube.com/watch?v=7miRCLeFSJo
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Post by Douper on Apr 19, 2014 6:02:14 GMT -5
Game 2 was again a 4 line domination. After the 2-0 goal I was confident that we were coming out with the win. Stamkos was a non factor in Game 2. That's 2 straight games with goals from atleast 3 of 4 lines. Our Defense has to be better at times. But all in all, 4-1, 4-0, 4-2...whatever, doesn't matter a win is a win come playoff time!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 8:08:08 GMT -5
The Tampa 'leadership' called a players only meeting after the game. Undoubtedly that was to bare it all and impress upon each player how they aren't competing. I'd like to see us score 3 goals in the first 5 minutes on Sunday to impress upon the Tampa 'leadership', that they simply aren't good enough, and no amount of meetings is going to change the fact the Habs have better players and when they play together and compete hard, they are simply going to outscore Tampa, no matter how hard the Bolts try. Yes, they're a decent team, but they have one really good scorer, and they have a goalie who had an outstanding year. Take one of those two away and they're just not competitive. The key for the Habs is to keep playing exactly as they have been. If they expend the same amount of energy and win those individual battles, the series will be over in 4. Tampa's goaltending just isn't good enough to make up for the talent deficiency on defense and most of the forwards. I underrated the effect of Bishop's absence on the Bolts. I think they know it. I've played with goalies who just weren't good enough and they killed my team's spirit. It's happening with Tampa, so let's not take the foot off the gas, and put them away. If they keep up their aggression and don't let up like they've done in recent years (Boston in 2011, Carolina in 2006, Rangers in 1996 if we want to go further back...). I don't really sense that with this group thus far, but all Tampa needs is one good shift, a good bounce, and the series is a new one. We'll see what happens in Game 3.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 19, 2014 8:25:26 GMT -5
I don't see it happening with this group....as long as Price stays sharp....our secondary scoring stays hot....and we stay out of penalty trouble.
Will be interesting to see how the game is called on Sunday. The refs know Tampa's situation.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 19, 2014 8:33:19 GMT -5
The first thing I though about Lucic's after seeing 'stick-to-the-junk' was Emelin. The guy got away with it when he did it to Emelin, so why not try it again. Listening to Bob MacKenzie, why would the league penalize Lucic last night if they didn't give him one when he did it against Emelin? Well done to the NHL for establishing a precedence.
The game ....
Nice to see a win that wasn't decided by one goal.
Very structured game by Montreal last night. Well done Therrien.
Man, Subban is the personification of intense. Great game by PK.
Where has Rene Bourque been all year?
Ben Bishop would have made his team look a lot better than they actually are.
Weaver/Bouillon seemed to have sorted it out.
Game 3 is a must win for both teams. The crowd will be pumped and hopefully our club feeds off that.
Cheers.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 19, 2014 8:37:40 GMT -5
I underrated the effect of Bishop's absence on the Bolts. I think they know it. I've played with goalies who just weren't good enough and they killed my team's spirit. It's happening with Tampa, so let's not take the foot off the gas, and put them away. Absolutely. Put them away now. Don't let Bishop back in the saddle. He'll provide an emotional lift, too. Get it done now. Cheers.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 19, 2014 11:30:58 GMT -5
At some point it gets beyond ridiculous. He;s a punk which is worse than a goon. Yet he and his Bruins think he's the honourable gentleman that would never engage in anything cheap. Just like Ference and his malfunctioning equipment. So after he did the same act with Emelin, he claims his innocence as to how can anyone think he did something like that. He said “Just skating by him and that’s all. People are trying to say I speared him. I did not spear him, so that’s it.” What's gong to be the lame explanation this time. i don't expect much different form a Bruin but the League should be ashamed of itself. This is repugnant to anyone who has ever played any sport and in particular hockey: from behind and to the groin. REPREHENSIBLE!!! I predict that perhaps he'll get a fine, but no suspension. The Bruins are too important to the guys actually making the decision in the NHL, and Lucic is too important to the Bruins (He really isn't that good, but everyone seems to give him the benefit of the doubt). Take away the intimidation factor and he's maybe slightly better than average on a skill basis. He gets a lot of time and space from intimidation. It would be satisfying to see him suspended for 3 to 5 for that cowardly act, but it won't happen. Forget it guys. The league seems to think there's nothing to this kind of act. So, what happens if a player were deliberately tomahawked behind the play and he ends up in traction? Spear to the pills + Lucic + no call = just a hockey play #acceptable Bruins hockeyCheers.
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Post by blny on Apr 19, 2014 11:37:47 GMT -5
FWIW, I read through the first 27 pages of the thread on the main board of HF about this. The bruins fans who chimed in, of which there were many, felt he should get something for it. They were pretty disgusted by the play.
Maybe Lucy will get something in the way of a fine when he actually ruptures someone's testicle doing that.
One of the things I liked about our game last night was that even though they shored things up defensively they were still up tempo. Still attacking. No rope a dope. No trap.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 19, 2014 12:12:06 GMT -5
FWIW, I read through the first 27 pages of the thread on the main board of HF about this. The bruins fans who chimed in, of which there were many, felt he should get something for it. They were pretty disgusted by the play. Maybe Lucy will get something in the way of a fine when he actually ruptures someone's testicle doing that. One of the things I liked about our game last night was that even though they shored things up defensively they were still up tempo. Still attacking. No rope a dope. No trap. That's a good find, BLNY. If nothing else there are Bruins fans who seem to be genuinely embarrassed by Lucic's actions. I have a number of Boston fans on my Facebook list and no one is talking about that play at all. You're right, though. I mean, what happens if someone suffers a ruptured testicle? If they do address it, the NHL will have to make sure first punish the action and then make sure the punishment is enough to show the rest of the league that actions like these are unacceptable. Unfortunately, the NHL probably won't do anything until someone really gets hurt and/or another team tries to get away with it. Cheers.
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Post by UberCranky on Apr 19, 2014 12:50:23 GMT -5
I don't think the NHL cares about someone getting hurt, they will care a LOT when some speared player turns around and tomahawks Lucy in the face.
Some of you are old enough to remember Ted Green in '69. For the younger of you, he was almost paralyzed from a club to the head. I am NOT going to blame any player who takes a swing at Lucys head if he can deliberately spear people and the league looks away.
The upside its that the NHL will be shredded with howls of #violeneceintheNHL. This isn't '69 and "hockey plays".
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Post by blny on Apr 19, 2014 12:59:37 GMT -5
A whopping $5000 fine levied to Lucy today. Quenville gets $25000 for grabbing his own testicles. Lucy gets $5000 for attacking someone's. Quintal really dropped the balls here - of course I don't think he was really behind the decision anyway.
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 19, 2014 13:00:34 GMT -5
Here's what the Detroit Free Press is reporting.
“It was kind of a heat of the moment thing when you’re not thinking and you do something like that,” he said. “I’ve been in the league for seven years and I think I’ve only done that three times. I don’t know why I did it.
“I believe in playing within the rules, and for me, I definitely won’t be heading down that road again.”
Lucic was not penalized at the time, and there’s no harsh discipline on the horizon. “There’s no hearing, but I have to call in,” he said. “We’ll see what happens from that standpoint.”
ONLY 3 times. Does he include Emelin in that count as he said he didn't spear Emelin (so we're really up to 4 at least). In any event he's an admitted repeat offender who believes in playing within the rules (scratches head). He's got a reputation which will stick to him. It's time a goon ignored the Code like Lucic and pummelled the guy. Where's Probert when you need him. Or we need a Kessel with a strong stick!
Only a phone call, so likely a fine at most.
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Post by UberCranky on Apr 19, 2014 13:07:57 GMT -5
We all enjoyed the game, great, fantastic, BUT.....and there is always a butt....their defence is elite....for the AHL. And their backchecking needs a flashlight. I hope the Hab players don't take the foot off the gas. We lost 2-0 leads three times before in the recent past and the last thing we need is to toil 6-7 games before moving on to tougher challanges. Sorry for the cold air...... You gotta save "the cold air" till tomorrow or Sunday. This is a time to celebrate our accomplishments. Two great road games. These are all steps towards a championship. Perhaps not this year but soon. If we do lose the next few games or the series it will be a learning experience; a painful one but one none the less. With our current leadership i don't see a meltdown. Also, TB is not a very good team. They were all smoke and mirrors with a goalie having a stellar year. Not unlike Ott last year. The reality is they aren't that good after Stamkos and maybe Hedman. And no Marty or Vinny! No they are not. That is why I voted 4 straight. BUT....a lucky bounce or two and all of a sudden it's a series. Nor is our "confidence" unshakable. We can look very beatable in a hurry. Last year, I thought that we were even with the Hens but in the end, it was not much of a fight. I hope the players celebrated for a few minutes and got back in focus. Two more games.
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Post by UberCranky on Apr 19, 2014 13:11:42 GMT -5
A whopping $5000 fine levied to Lucy today. Quenville gets $25000 for grabbing his own testicles. Lucy gets $5000 for attacking someone's. Quintal really dropped the balls here - of course I don't think he was really behind the decision anyway. $5,000 fine for a multimillionaire? It's like $5 to normal people. Not much of a deterrence. Well then, obviously justice is a stick to the head. It will be a "heat of the moment" event just like deliberate spearing someone in the nuts. #NHLisajoke
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Post by seventeen on Apr 19, 2014 13:12:12 GMT -5
If he was suspended for 25 games, I'd be more likely to believe he won't do it again. He will do it again. $5000 is chump change to a chump like Lucic.
I see your amendment above, Cranky and I was just going to make the same point. Wayne Maki was a clean player but too much intimidation can turn even the weakest worm. Think Ted Green would have preferred a suspension to having his career and health harmed as it was?
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Post by UberCranky on Apr 19, 2014 13:25:17 GMT -5
If he was suspended for 25 games, I'd be more likely to believe he won't do it again. He will do it again. $5000 is chump change to a chump like Lucic. I see your amendment above, Cranky and I was just going to make the same point. Wayne Maki was a clean player but too much intimidation can turn even the weakest worm. Think Ted Green would have preferred a suspension to having his career and health harmed as it was? That's why I am NOT going to blame anyone who tomahawks Lucy's head. At this point and given the gutless NHL protection of players, I think that one is well justified to take any measures to defend themselves. I don't mind tough hockey. I LOVE tough hockey, but spearing to the nuts is a gutless dirtbag play. Welcome to the NHL.
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Post by folatre on Apr 19, 2014 14:06:54 GMT -5
To make a strong, intelligent decision (suspension) likely is to get a man (Quintal) kicked off the clown team (League Office).
Lucic is garbage. Physical non-fighters lay clean checks on him and he responds by spearing them in the nuts and/or crying in the press that they won't fight him. But curiously he spend his entire career hiding behind the code that no one has any right to expect him to answer the bell with a real heavyweight. That is a total disgrace.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 19, 2014 14:35:32 GMT -5
I don't think the NHL cares about someone getting hurt, they will care a LOT when some speared player turns around and tomahawks Lucy in the face. Some of you are old enough to remember Ted Green in '69. For the younger of you, he was almost paralyzed from a club to the head. I am NOT going to blame any player who takes a swing at Lucys head if he can deliberately spear people and the league looks away. The upside its that the NHL will be shredded with howls of #violeneceintheNHL. This isn't '69 and "hockey plays". Good example Effendi. I remember the incident well because it happened where I grew up in Ottawa. There's a lot of focus on the final chop by Maki, but the two of them were fencing just about all the way up the ice. The photo that stays with me is this the lower-right one that was on either the front page or the sports page to the old "Ottawa Journal". From Greatest Hockey Fights.comThe aftermath (I knew about the charges, but I honestly didn't know about the NHL discipline): "Assault charges were laid against Green and Maki. The NHL suspended and fined both players. Maki was suspended for 30 days and Green for 13 games “if and when he returns to hockey." Green missed the entire 1969-70 season, but did return to action and played for nearly another decade." To give you an idea how this incident is viewed elsewhere, Sports Illustrated has it listed in there "50 Landmark Hockey Fights". If nothing else it shows me just how little SI understands hockey. Cheers.
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Post by blny on Apr 19, 2014 15:07:59 GMT -5
To put it in perspective. $5000 to a guy making $6 million is $33 to a guy making $40,000. Or, not much more than a parking ticket.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 19, 2014 15:26:33 GMT -5
LuFcic and his BruFins, CampFbell, and JacFobs continue to make a mockFery of the game.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 19, 2014 16:09:30 GMT -5
To put it in perspective. $5000 to a guy making $6 million is $33 to a guy making $40,000. Or, not much more than a parking ticket. No need to appeal that ... Cheers.
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Post by blny on Apr 19, 2014 16:12:58 GMT -5
To put it in perspective. $5000 to a guy making $6 million is $33 to a guy making $40,000. Or, not much more than a parking ticket. No need to appeal that ... Cheers. Or learn from it. Just like parking wars in downtown Halifax, the parking enforcement folks rarely hit the same street twice in a week or month. So, if you get 4 a month it's the same as parking in many areas downtown here. In other words, if the penalty is only going to be $5000 and I'm not gonna get caught every time ...
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