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Post by AH on Jan 20, 2003 11:28:59 GMT -5
according to RDS. LOL !!! I wonder what he is going to say ... uhhhh oui yes I was happy about being outshot in 76% of the games since I took over ... ;D One thing that bugs me about the timing is that it haopens on a day when the team is on the road. Most of the hockey press is not even going to be there. Lovely ... we will have Jack Todd and Rejean Tremblay asking those hard-hitting questions that need to be asked ...
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 20, 2003 11:59:29 GMT -5
If he is smart he will thank the Habs for giving 26 MONTHS to show he is not a NHL head coach
Someone should also ask him why the hell did he not trust youngsters
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Post by PTH on Jan 20, 2003 12:32:31 GMT -5
MThead ? The guy has a name and deserves some respect, however you might have disliked him as a coach.
As to not trusting kids - he got Markov into the lineup, and put Hossa on the top line, what more can you ask ? He had to have millions sitting in the stands to get kids out there.... if anyone deserves blame for lack of kids out there it's AS.
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Post by AH on Jan 20, 2003 12:40:49 GMT -5
yeah !!! sure pal ... whatever you say !!!
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Post by PTH on Jan 20, 2003 12:44:40 GMT -5
yeah !!! sure pal ... whatever you say !!! Just for fun, make up a lineup of our early-season team with all the garanteed NHL contracts on it. Then get back to me on how you can blame MT on that count.
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Post by Montrealer on Jan 20, 2003 12:56:44 GMT -5
As to not trusting kids - he got Markov into the lineup, and put Hossa on the top line, what more can you ask ? He had to have millions sitting in the stands to get kids out there.... if anyone deserves blame for lack of kids out there it's AS. I think he may have been referring to Therrien's inept handling of Hainsey...
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 20, 2003 13:07:17 GMT -5
I think he may have been referring to Therrien's inept handling of Hainsey... yes and the handling of Markov in the past... but that is over with and it's been talked about a million times here already The press conference is at 1:55...
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Post by Psycorp on Jan 20, 2003 13:51:28 GMT -5
This board have always been about respect for each other and intelligent comments and essays, please, we should show the same respect for Michel Therrien who worked hard and helped bring us entertainment with a game and a team we adore
he did good and bad things but it was time for a change.
I say good luck Michel, life is a long road trying each day to improve one-self.
this not a place to laff at him or destroying when he is down. I look forward to see him get up again.
Good day "gentlemen".
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 20, 2003 13:56:29 GMT -5
press conference about to start
RDS has started their coverage
Only in MTL could such a press conference be so important..LOL
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jan 20, 2003 13:57:47 GMT -5
Just for fun, make up a lineup of our early-season team with all the garanteed NHL contracts on it. Then get back to me on how you can blame MT on that count. That problem is still no solved. Julien might be a smart coach, but he's no magicien. There still is too many players around to please everyone and devellop youth effectively and there are too many similar type of players. He will need solid help from his GM and fast because the new coach effect will pass. And yes, Therrien has been kicked at quite enough...
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Post by TheHabsfan on Jan 20, 2003 14:04:52 GMT -5
This board have always been about respect for each other and intelligent comments and essays, please, we should show the same respect for Michel Therrien who worked hard and helped bring us entertainment with a game and a team we adore he did good and bad things but it was time for a change. I say good luck Michel, life is a long road trying each day to improve one-self. this not a place to laff at him or destroying when he is down. I look forward to see him get up again. Good day "gentlemen". I was definitely happy to see a coaching change in MTL. I found that some decisions made by the coaching staff were questionable and that a change was necessary to help the team get back on track. I, however, agree with Psycorp and PTH when I say that we should still treat MT will some respect. There was never any doubt that he was doing his best to make the team better. It wasn't easy to make some of his decisions to bench some of these veterans. I am sure that many of us would have flamed him for not benching them at the time. Let it be known that he did make some good and difficult decisions. The only problem is that HIS best wasn't good enough. I still think that his heart was at the right place. I won't lie to you and say that I am unhappy that he is gone, but I still wish him well. A lot of things were said (like the Bus driver bit...I am still chuckling about that one ;D ) but it was all in good fun. cheers,
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 20, 2003 14:05:19 GMT -5
One of these days....somebody will have to explain to me why basically everyone aside from the posters here...LOVED AND STILL LOVES Therrien... Did AV get this much sympathy when he was fired? Did Demers get this much sympathy when he was fired? I just don't get it...is it because he is like you and me..a down to earth guy? Press conference starting now..
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jan 20, 2003 14:10:00 GMT -5
One of these days....somebody will have to explain to me why basically everyone aside from the posters here...LOVED AND STILL LOVES Therrien... Did AV get this much sympathy when he was fired? Did Demers get this much sympathy when he was fired? I just don't get it...is it because he is like you and me..a down to earth guy? Press conference starting now.. Not every posters here felt that Therrien was the sole responsible person for eveything that was going wrong. And not every posters felt that Michel did only bad/stupid things. And yes, some people still regret AV...
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Post by TheHabsfan on Jan 20, 2003 14:33:02 GMT -5
Press conference starting now.. Marc, For the benefit of us unfortunate enough to be stuck at work, would you mind giving us some details on the press conference...I assume that you are watching it?? I would appreciate it. cheers,
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Post by darz on Jan 20, 2003 14:38:06 GMT -5
i think we (habs fans) should stop slamming MT now that his tenure as coach is over. i think a thanks for the effort should be said, and thats it.
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 20, 2003 14:38:32 GMT -5
LOL!
some old geezer who doesn't work for a media just entered the press conference and asked a silly question about millionaires and the effort they give
LOL!
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 20, 2003 14:42:21 GMT -5
Marc, For the benefit of us unfortunate enough to be stuck at work, would you mind giving us some details on the press conference...I assume that you are watching it?? I would appreciate it. cheers, MT was very classy. Thanked basically everyone in the org. Said his best memory was Saku's comeback, followed by Theo's great season last year He believes he will be back behind a NHL bench soon He believes Habs are a good team that will make the playoffs and surprise like they did last year He knew he was done when he got the call on Friday morning from AS to visit him at the Bell Center He said the experience he got behind the habs bench will be great for his future Doesn't plan on sitting on his bacon collecting his checks for too long Is still mad about the firing. Said Habs have a great future. Mentionned Hossa, Plekanec and I believe Komisarek(when he said it I was typing) His lone regret: to not be in Florida now
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 20, 2003 14:47:43 GMT -5
He has also laughed about 15 times already...seems in a good mood..
said he didn't watch the game Saturday aside from a peak here and there(his wife's parents came to eat supper)
Is not sure when he wants to attempt to comeback...this year or next year
Convinced good times are ahead for him...
and now he will join RDS people live...
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Post by TheHabsfan on Jan 20, 2003 14:48:27 GMT -5
LOL! some old geezer who doesn't work for a media just entered the press conference and asked a silly question about millionaires and the effort they give LOL! ;D ;D ;D Well, I am glad someone asked the question.
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 20, 2003 14:58:14 GMT -5
More...he is on a 1 on 1 with RDS girl Machabe
-Felt this year was similar to last year
-Never thought he was in danger of losing his job
-was excited about Saturday's game
-respects the decision
-Gilmour's leadership was missed
-Chow's comments surprised him
-Incredible feeling coaching the Habs
-Never easy benching a veteran
-Last year's team was different..
-Decisions last year were easier to make with not as much depth
-Did not hope for a loss Saturday night
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jan 20, 2003 15:28:01 GMT -5
A decent human being but a poor fit as a coach for this Habs team. I hope he finds himself in a more complementary environment in his next hockey job.
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Post by larek on Jan 20, 2003 15:49:15 GMT -5
Im glad that Therrien is gone but besides his coaching which i never liked ,he showed a lot of class during the press conference and wish him well,could he be with Hartley as an assistant this year?But i have to say after all this i dont have as much respect for Savard,didnt thank Therrien for his hard work in the organization,which was puzzling!Have to remember Savard brought in Chow and Audette who have big contracts for a team like Montreal,gave Brisbois that obscene contract,gave Rivet the type of contract i thought he never deserved,brought in Mckay who plays like hes in an oldtimer league,some moves have worked and some decent drafting BUT alot of the problems with this team stems with Savard and if things dont turn around this year he will have to answer for this!
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Post by Habsolution on Jan 20, 2003 15:49:19 GMT -5
A decent human being but a poor fit as a coach for this Habs team. I hope he finds himself in a more complementary environment in his next hockey job. I think that sums up everyone thoughts perfectly
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Post by cigarviper on Jan 20, 2003 15:56:13 GMT -5
Well, this is my first post here. Pardon my simple style as I'm not yet familiar with the features on this BB. I find most of you very informed and educated with respect to the Habs organization from the bottom up and look forward to reading more in the future.
As far as MT goes, I've been calling for his head, so to speak, since last years playoff bungling that led to the Habs early exit.
I've always felt that he is an excellent coach for a team that has pure size and grit. This is not the style of team AS is attempting to assemble nor is it, IMO, the type of team the Montreal fans want to see on the ice. The fans are too accustomed to the "Flying Frenchmen" style of years ago and I believe is what AS is trying to give them.
I wish him well in his future endeavours and hope he finds a good fit somewhere down the road..aka an NHL calibre "House of Pain".
In the meantime, I think CJ will work wonders for this team as I think he has a similar style and vision to that of AS.
Peace,
Viper
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Post by Viper on Jan 20, 2003 16:15:49 GMT -5
Welcome aboard Cigarviper (CV ) Glad to have ya here and look forward to your posts in the future. cheer's Viper.
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 20, 2003 16:20:24 GMT -5
2 viper's? welcome aboard
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Post by Andrew on Jan 20, 2003 16:32:38 GMT -5
I've got to agree that Therrien deserves our, the media's, and the organization's respect. As others have mentioned, he was in a tough spot given the resources he had to work with. He worked hard, and brough alot of emotion to the job.
Regardless of his work ethic, and attitude, however, the team wasn't performing for him, and a change had to be made. Going back to last year, the team was regularly outshot, and relied heavily on goaltendng for wins. With no effective system evident, either their wasn't one, or the players weren't bying into it - which necessitated the coaching change.
As a fan who was heavily critical of his coaching, I thank him for his efforts, and wish him all the best in future endeavors - I wish that the organization would do the same. I can't stand it when a coach is fired and players, and or personell openly criticize him. It was a relationship that didn't work out, and it's time to move forward with a positive, and professional approach.
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Post by AH on Jan 20, 2003 16:51:14 GMT -5
I have never been so non-remorseful about someone losing their job. And frankly speaking I have scared myself with my own reaction. Even when a hated colleague has lost their job or has voluntarily left, I have had mixed emotions about the whole thing. Even when Houle got canned, I had sympathy feelings. He did his best with what he had. Houle did mostly bad things, but he also brought in some positives.
But for Therrien, I can't point out one good thing that he did. If he was allowed to have Bouillon and Robidas on the roster THIS year, guaranteed they would have been put ahead of Markov. How do I know this, well he did put them ahead last year, didn't he ?! Bulis developed because Savard suggested he put him on Juneau's wing. Theodore was a good goalie before Therrien got here, so really he had nothing to do with all his success ... etc ... etc ...
The guy is an incompetent knob who has no business being a coach of any kind above the Junior level. His type of Bravado scare-tactics might work with pimple-faced 16, 17 year old kids, but it will never work in a professional environment.
He did nothing right. JV put it well in the other thread. He wasn't a good bench coach. He wasn't a good tactician. He wasn't a good strategist. He wasn't a good communicator. He wasn't a good teacher.
If you put a monkey in his spot, at least the monkey would have done something right ... like eat bananas. ;D
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Post by HFTO on Jan 20, 2003 17:03:39 GMT -5
I was never an MT backer but one thing for sure I did admire his passion for the game and this team.That is one thing you can't take away from him. Unfotunately I think he was in over his head but if the president of the Montreal Canadiens offers you you're dream job what are you going to say NO? MT can't take all the blame,I wish him luck. HFTO
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Post by habwest on Jan 20, 2003 17:39:05 GMT -5
I missed the press conference so thanks for the reports.
Much more sensible than the ridiculous comments made by the reporter- which I mistook for being based on talking to MT.
I agree that MT did his best but it wan't good enough.
I don't assign any blame to AS for MT's shortcomings as a coach. Any coach in the league (to paraphrase Scotty Bowman) has to adapt to the players given to him by the GM and get the most out of them. I think that it's fair to say that MT did not do this, and that's excluding Audette from the judgement- Audette has not fully recovered so it's not fair to incumber MT with any blame for the guy's lack of production this year.
I don't have any personal animosity towards Therrien. Neither do I feel sorry for him. I want and expect the best from a Habs coach. I think that the coach should have a fair chance to prove his stuff. MT had that chance and was found wanting.
I only saw one TV clip of the press conference introducing CJ. On that AS was not very smooth nor gracious to MT. It could have been better, but again I might not have seen everything.
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