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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 6, 2010 0:19:54 GMT -5
Had to go out for dinner, so missed the second half of the Dogs game tonight...but they still walked away with another road victory and against the boys from Rochester who are now 13 points back, albeit with two in hand. Pyatt ended up with the hat trick and a four point night, Glumac and Wyman had the singles and PK and big Alex Henry had two helpers each from the back end. Cedrick Desjardins got the call and got the win tonight. theahl.com/stats/game-summary.php?game_id=1006784
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 7, 2010 12:32:17 GMT -5
After giving up a Marlies goal on their first shot, Sandford and the Dogs shut the door on their Ontario rivals, with a solid 2-1 win last night. Glumac had both goals and was named the game's first star. PK added two assists to his already impressive season (as good as he is doing I am still glad he is still in Hamilton getting better and more prepared - his time will come soon enough). The reffing was brutal and the game erupted at the end when someone gave a vicious slash to the back of Conboy's leg. Andre Deveaux and one of the Dogs assistants got yapping pretty good at the end, and Deveaux (an ex Hab draft pick BTW) even pushed him. The Dogs were all celebrating their win in front of their net, so those Marlies felt safe in numbers pulling their silly stunts. I imagine the next game should be fun between these two. On Friday night, it was Tom Pyatt who stepped up and was the hero. Last night it was Mike Glumac. It wasn't as though they did not deserve to win, as they outshot the Marlies 43-12. That is the fewest shots ever allowed by a Dogs team. As riddled as their lineup is with all the callups, their solid goaltending and good defense is still intact (especially now with Veber back with the team). 7 straight wins and only one of their last ten games has been in Hamilton. They head to Lake Erie next and then get some home cooking for a while after a very successful 10 of 11 on the road stretch. www.hamiltonbulldogs.com/article/bulldogs-earn-2-1-win-over-marlies
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Post by jkr on Feb 7, 2010 16:04:32 GMT -5
After giving up a Marlies goal on their first shot, Sandford and the Dogs shut the door on their Ontario rivals, with a solid 2-1 win last night. Glumac had both goals and was named the game's first star. PK added two assists to his already impressive season (as good as he is doing I am still glad he is still in Hamilton getting better and more prepared - his time will come soon enough). The reffing was brutal and the game erupted at the end when someone gave a vicious slash to the back of Conboy's leg. Andre Deveaux and one of the Dogs assistants got yapping pretty good at the end, and Deveaux (an ex Hab draft pick BTW) even pushed him. The Dogs were all celebrating their win in front of their net, so those Marlies felt safe in numbers pulling their silly stunts. I imagine the next game should be fun between these two. On Friday night, it was Tom Pyatt who stepped up and was the hero. Last night it was Mike Glumac. It wasn't as though they did not deserve to win, as they outshot the Marlies 43-12. That is the fewest shots ever allowed by a Dogs team. As riddled as their lineup is with all the callups, their solid goaltending and good defense is still intact (especially now with Veber back with the team). 7 straight wins and only one of their last ten games has been in Hamilton. They head to Lake Erie next and then get some home cooking for a while after a very successful 10 of 11 on the road stretch. www.hamiltonbulldogs.com/article/bulldogs-earn-2-1-win-over-marliesThe Marlies had 12 shots? Looks like even the Leafs farm team is bad.
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Post by CrocRob on Feb 10, 2010 12:20:21 GMT -5
There's been rumours about the Dogs moving, but they'd better not. I just got hired for a position in Hamilton and am moving there in the next month!
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Post by jkr on Feb 10, 2010 13:28:34 GMT -5
There's been rumours about the Dogs moving, but they'd better not. I just got hired for a position in Hamilton and am moving there in the next month! Congrats on the new job Red.
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Post by jkr on Feb 10, 2010 13:29:42 GMT -5
I was curious so I had a look at Pacioretty's stats with the Bulldogs. I came away underwhelmed - 1G and 1A for 2PTS in seven games. Anyone seen him play?
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Post by Boston_Habs on Feb 10, 2010 14:47:18 GMT -5
I was curious so I had a look at Pacioretty's stats with the Bulldogs. I came away underwhelmed - 1G and 1A for 2PTS in seven games. Anyone seen him play? The guy just hasn't played much hockey and I'm afraid he's yet another Habs prospect who isn't being properly developed. MaxPac was drafted in 2007 on the basis of the equivalent of one junior season in the USHL of 60 games. Many draft-eligible kids have a much larger sample of games, but whatever. Then he goes to Michigan, one of the best NCAA programs in the US under Red Berenson and bolts after his freshman year, in which he scored 15 goals and 39 points in 37 games. A good season, but less than half the number of games than a regular junior season. He probably should have stayed at Michigan for at least one and maybe two more years, but instead he makes the jump to Hamilton and plays 37 games in 2008-09 before being called up to Montreal. As much as we want to see prospects contribute, that is WAY too fast a trajectory for a power forward who isn't a great skater and who hasn't been in one place long enough to learn, get comfortable, and assert his game. MaxPac looked totally out of place in Montreal this year and I'm shocked he even played 52 games in the NHL. But now we've kind of messed with the kid. Yanked him out of Michigan before he was ready and didn't give him enough time in Hamilton to develop either. Maybe he'll get his head and his game together with Guy Boucher, but this kid has been seriously mishandled IMO.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 10, 2010 18:10:33 GMT -5
Boston_Habs is correct, he needs time to stay put and develop. From prep school to one year in the USHL to one year in the NCAA to his first pro season split with Hamilton/Habs to this season. He has not had time to adjust to the pro game, and isn't getting it done by himself. That is why the Habs have a development team, and that is what he needs more of right now.
I still really like his upside, not sure if he is a top line winger, but he sure projects to be a heck of a lot better than the Max we all saw this season in Montreal. I also think the coaching staff in Hamilton can turn it around for this kid. He will get decent ice time and be in an environment where there is more room for both error and development. He has missed out on both in his fast-track.
Bottom line is he is still only 21 and has untapped potential. Let's see how he develops for the rest of the year down in the farm.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 13, 2010 2:49:54 GMT -5
Dogs see their 7 game win streak come to an end tonight, against a team that seems to have their number this season - Lake Erie Monsters. The game was 5-4 in OT for the bad guys. Trotter, Belle, Maxwell and Russell with the twine bulgers tonight. Recently demoted Ben Maxwell had a 1+2 night, was plus two, and had seven shots on net. Max Pacioretty also had 7 shots on net, and none went in, although he was able to walk away with two assists on the night. Cedrick Desjardins had a very rare off night, and was yanked in the second after yielding 4 goals on 15 shots. The Sandman came in and shut the door for the rest of the game, but the Dogs could not ever get the lead and eventually fell in the shootout. www.hamiltonbulldogs.com/article/bulldogs-spooked-by-monsters-in-5-4-shootout-lossWith Subban called up and forced into action with the Habs and Weber off in Vancouver with the Swiss olympic team, the Dogs were only able to dress 17 skaters tonight. I am sure they are looking forward to the NHL break and getting Pyatt, Subban and Desharnais back. Darche would have to clear waivers, so I expect he stays now.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 20, 2010 1:14:32 GMT -5
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 20, 2010 9:57:46 GMT -5
...I really wonder if we have a Briere/St-Louis in our hands and just don't know how to tap into him...
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Post by sergejean on Feb 20, 2010 10:17:59 GMT -5
...I really wonder if we have a Briere/St-Louis in our hands and just don't know how to tap into him... Well Doc, from his limited experience, it's hard to tell. All I know is that Desharnais had flashes of brilliance against the Penguins and he has been dominant to any level he played so far... so he's worth keeping around the organization IMO.
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Post by Lord Bebop on Feb 21, 2010 11:23:48 GMT -5
...I really wonder if we have a Briere/St-Louis in our hands and just don't know how to tap into him... Well Doc, from his limited experience, it's hard to tell. All I know is that Desharnais had flashes of brilliance against the Penguins and he has been dominant to any level he played so far... so he's worth keeping around the organization IMO. If Plekanec walks in the summer, it should be interesting to see if management gives Desharnais and Maxwell a shot at a centering the 2nd line. A little off topic but I wouldn't mind experimenting with Max Pac at center ice. To me he looks alittle lost on the wing and I think with his defensive game, size, speed and playmaking ability he could fit in as a third line or maybe even the 2nd line center slot with time.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 21, 2010 13:03:36 GMT -5
Looking back, it's hard to recall (in general, I know) a winger successfully converting to a centre. If MaxPac has never played centre growing up, it becomes more difficult. Lots of cases of centres being shifted to wing, but not the reverse. And I agree with you JJ, MaxPac's skill set includes a lot of stuff one likes to see in a centre. He has really good vision, one of the key things you can't teach. I wonder what he'd be like on faceoffs?
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Post by Lord Bebop on Feb 21, 2010 16:22:04 GMT -5
Looking back, it's hard to recall (in general, I know) a winger successfully converting to a centre. If MaxPac has never played centre growing up, it becomes more difficult. Lots of cases of centres being shifted to wing, but not the reverse. And I agree with you JJ, MaxPac's skill set includes a lot of stuff one likes to see in a centre. He has really good vision, one of the key things you can't teach. I wonder what he'd be like on faceoffs? Two names pop up off the top of my head of who converted are Vincent Damphousse and Mike Keane. I thought at one time he was listed as a LW/C but i have a hard time finding where I read that. As for faceoffs it's a small sample but he's 2 for 9 in the NHL.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 25, 2010 0:38:54 GMT -5
The Dogs beat the baby Leafs 3-1 and MaxPac getting 1 goal 2 assists and first star of the game. I'm attaching an article on how Guy Boucher handles the ups and downs of players coming and going to the show. Quite interesting and it opens another window into the way this guy is organized and thoughtful and prepared. Gotta be our next coach, and while I don't wish JM any ill will, I'd like to see Boucher coaching the Habs in another year. www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Bulldogs+lose+their+bite/2604759/story.html
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Post by seventeen on Feb 25, 2010 0:41:56 GMT -5
Two names pop up off the top of my head of who converted are Vincent Damphousse and Mike Keane. I thought at one time he was listed as a LW/C but i have a hard time finding where I read that. I believe Damphousse was a centre in juniour, but I'm not totally certain of that. Keane was a right winger in Moose Jaw and with the Habs. When did he play centre?
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Post by Lord Bebop on Feb 28, 2010 7:27:35 GMT -5
Two names pop up off the top of my head of who converted are Vincent Damphousse and Mike Keane. I thought at one time he was listed as a LW/C but i have a hard time finding where I read that. I believe Damphousse was a centre in juniour, but I'm not totally certain of that. Keane was a right winger in Moose Jaw and with the Habs. When did he play centre? Keane was played at center late in his Montreal career. I can't find any stats for back then nor can i find any articles to confirm it. As for Damphousse he wa drafted as a center so I stand corrected.
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Post by jkr on Feb 28, 2010 9:14:24 GMT -5
The Dogs beat the baby Leafs 3-1 and MaxPac getting 1 goal 2 assists and first star of the game. I'm attaching an article on how Guy Boucher handles the ups and downs of players coming and going to the show. Quite interesting and it opens another window into the way this guy is organized and thoughtful and prepared. Gotta be our next coach, and while I don't wish JM any ill will, I'd like to see Boucher coaching the Habs in another year. www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Bulldogs+lose+their+bite/2604759/story.htmlWhen Boucher talks of "interchangeables" I think of the Devils. Year after year NJ just plugs people into holes & they are filled admirably. It's working in Hamilton. No big stars there yet they are 2nd overall.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 28, 2010 23:36:50 GMT -5
Well, the lads changed their game time to after the gold medal Olympic game, so got a chance to get a sneak peek after doing the big Van City thing and ignoring our lads for 10 days. Big win tonight with five usual suspects helping the cause. Maxwell, Glumac, Subban, Desharnais, and White filled the net. The Sandman closed the gap on the other end. Five wins in a row for our lads!! Second in the AHL still. www.hamiltonbulldogs.com/article/bulldogs-roll-past-marlies-5-1
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 28, 2010 23:44:12 GMT -5
The Dogs beat the baby Leafs 3-1 and MaxPac getting 1 goal 2 assists and first star of the game. I'm attaching an article on how Guy Boucher handles the ups and downs of players coming and going to the show. Quite interesting and it opens another window into the way this guy is organized and thoughtful and prepared. Gotta be our next coach, and while I don't wish JM any ill will, I'd like to see Boucher coaching the Habs in another year. www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Bulldogs+lose+their+bite/2604759/story.htmlI have been one of the biggest Boucher fans from day one (check those posts). Just like Subban though, I want this guy to earn his stripes in the A. No more mistakes, we need time. He has really been able to get things going for the U18, WJC, QMJHL and now the AHL, so let him perfect his game with his new two assistants who are also darn good in their trade. I really, really like having him in the wings. I did the minute I heard of the announcement. Don't rush him though. Unlike previous junior coaches likes Julien, this guy is all about a lot more fun hockey to watch. A whole different brand of hockey than we currenty see. It should be fun if he ever gets the call.
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Post by seventeen on Mar 1, 2010 1:45:11 GMT -5
Well, the lads changed their game time to after the gold medal Olympic game, so got a chance to get a sneak peek after doing the big Van City thing and ignoring our lads for 10 days. Big win tonight with five usual suspects helping the cause. Maxwell, Glumac, Subban, Desharnais, and White filled the net. The Sandman closed the gap on the other end. Five wins in a row for our lads!! Second in the AHL still. www.hamiltonbulldogs.com/article/bulldogs-roll-past-marlies-5-1PK first star of the game. He's getting HA all excited.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 4, 2010 1:01:22 GMT -5
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Post by duster on Mar 6, 2010 13:42:22 GMT -5
Watched the Hamilton-Chicago game yesterday. A close game that ended 5-4 for the Dogs in a shoot out. The aggressive style of play and relentless fore check is still the key to the team's success, imo.
I was impressed by a couple of players. Brock Trotter and J.T. Wyman, in particular, caught my attention. Trotter is a threat almost every time he's on ice. A very smart and creative player although a tad undersized. Wyman's ability to play both defense and forward is well known, but I think he's turning into quite a player under Boucher's tutelage.
Palushaj didn't show all that much in his first game. At first glance, he's a good skater and has some skill, so he fits in. He's not Michael Busto by any means.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 6, 2010 14:29:06 GMT -5
Watched the Hamilton-Chicago game yesterday. A close game that ended 5-4 for the Dogs in a shoot out. The aggressive style of play and relentless fore check is still the key to the team's success, imo. I was impressed by a couple of players. Brock Trotter and J.T. Wyman, in particular, caught my attention. Trotter is a threat almost every time he's on ice. A very smart and creative player although a tad undersized. Wyman's ability to play both defense and forward is well known, but I think he's turning into quite a player under Boucher's tutelage. Palushaj didn't show all that much in his first game. At first glance, he's a good skater and has some skill, so he fits in. He's not Michael Busto by any means. Good game against a tough opponent. Wyman is on a roll now as that was his fourth goal in two games. And it was a beauty set up by a nice end to end rush by PK Subban. For those that did not see the game, check out that goal. It starts at about 1:03 into the hihghlight reel and then they replay it in slo mo. Beauty. www.hamiltonbulldogs.com/media/video/id/257
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 6, 2010 21:42:21 GMT -5
8 in a row for the Dogs with a second SO win in two nights, this time against Hartford Wolf Pack (NYR farm team) by a 3-2 score. Dogs get off to a 2-0 lead thanks to goals from White and Stevenson in the first, but have to settle the affair in the shootout. Desjardins stopped all four shooters, and PK and Trotter both scored to seal the deal. The old Michigan roomies both assisted on Whitey's goal, so Palushaj's first point in a Doggie uni. Palushaj almost ended it in the SO with some nice moves, but stymied with a great toe save by the Hartford netminder.
92 points and counting!!
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Post by Yossarian on Mar 9, 2010 22:56:27 GMT -5
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Post by BadCompany on Mar 10, 2010 13:29:50 GMT -5
So at what point do we start considering Brock Trotter and David Desharnais as possible future Montreal Canadiens? And do they, should they, have any impact on negotiations with Plekanec?
Trotter has 64 point in 61 AHL games and is +25 (and he is a righty). Desharnais has 59 points in only 46 games, and is +17. Contrast those stats with Ben Maxwell, who has 43 points in 55 games, and is “only” +12.
Not saying they can replace Plekanec right now (or am I?) but perhaps some of our more learn-ed Hamilton observers can give us an in depth scouting report on these guys. We know they’re both small, but then so are Gomez and Plekanec … Are they possible NHLers, or Corey Locke style AHL stars?
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 10, 2010 14:16:56 GMT -5
So at what point do we start considering Brock Trotter and David Desharnais as possible future Montreal Canadiens? And do they, should they, have any impact on negotiations with Plekanec? Trotter has 64 point in 61 AHL games and is +25 (and he is a righty). Desharnais has 59 points in only 46 games, and is +17. Contrast those stats with Ben Maxwell, who has 43 points in 55 games, and is “only” +12. Not saying they can replace Plekanec right now (or am I?) but perhaps some of our more learn-ed Hamilton observers can give us an in depth scouting report on these guys. We know they’re both small, but then so are Gomez and Plekanec … Are they possible NHLers, or Corey Locke style AHL stars? Since we're talking about right-handed shots, I'll ask when are PK Subban and Mathieu Carle going to be ready for promotion? Both did very well in their stints with the big club and from what I read in "The Globe and Mail" recently, right-handed d-men only make up 35% of the blueliners in the NHL. Check out Moving from left to right when you have the chance. There are advantages and disadvantages to playing on the right side, but check out what Josh Gorges had to say about making the move: “I still don't know that I feel comfortable,” Gorges said recently. “I'm still learning. I mean, I played on the left for 21 years. It's really amazing how 35 feet to the other side can change your whole outlook on the game. Everything kind of seems to happen on fast-forward.” A lot of teams are going through this, but we have two very good right-handed d-men who while requiring mentoring at the NHL level, could fill that void in our club over the next little while. Cheers.
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 10, 2010 15:08:00 GMT -5
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