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Post by Bob on May 27, 2004 21:11:42 GMT -5
Gainey surely didn't sign Danis merely for additional goaltending depth. Both Theodore and Garon are young as far as NHL goaltenders go. By the time they are ready to be replaced Halak could be ready as well as some of the others.
At Hamilton, the Bulldogs have to decide among Danis, Michaud, Fichaud and Damphousse. My guess is that Michaud, the youngest, will play another year in the ECHL while one of Damphousse and Fichaud will be re-signed to share time with Danis.
Then there's the upcoming draft where the Habs have the opportunity to add even more depth at that position.
To me it looks like Gainey has all his bases covered. After he has a better chance to evaluate Danis at the pro level, he will have teams like St. Louis, Los Angeles and maybe even Philly salivating over his goaltenders.
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on May 28, 2004 4:10:04 GMT -5
Hab goalies and their ages at next training camp (this September, I'm assuming).
Théodore 28 Fichaud 28 Garon 26 Damphousse 25 Danis 23 Puurula 22 Michaud 21 Halak 19 Heino-Lindberg 19
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on May 28, 2004 15:44:16 GMT -5
Gainey surely didn't sign Danis merely for additional goaltending depth. Both Theodore and Garon are young as far as NHL goaltenders go. By the time they are ready to be replaced Halak could be ready as well as some of the others. At Hamilton, the Bulldogs have to decide among Danis, Michaud, Fichaud and Damphousse. My guess is that Michaud, the youngest, will play another year in the ECHL while one of Damphousse and Fichaud will be re-signed to share time with Danis. Then there's the upcoming draft where the Habs have the opportunity to add even more depth at that position. To me it looks like Gainey has all his bases covered. After he has a better chance to evaluate Danis at the pro level, he will have teams like St. Louis, Los Angeles and maybe even Philly salivating over his goaltenders. The fight for the 2 goalie positions on the Dogs should be a spirited one. Danis - impeccable NCAA credentials. Michaud - actually had better numbers in the AHL (16 games, 2.53, .905) than in the ECHL (22 games, 3.01, .896), though the Waterbabies (or whatever there name is) aren't as strong or developed a team as the Dogs. Still, a creditable performance in his first professional season. Let's not forget that he's only 21. Damphousse - has shown steady improvement in each of the last three seasons. Still relatively young for a goalie (25), but beginning to slip into career-AHLer territory. In position to be the veteran influence. Fichaud - second consecutive solid AHL campaign. Prone to injury. Likely won't be re-signed. Any 2 of Danis, Michaud, Damphousse seem capable of winning spots on the Dog team.
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Post by montreal on May 29, 2004 15:32:30 GMT -5
The fight for the 2 goalie positions on the Dogs should be a spirited one. Danis - impeccable NCAA credentials. Michaud - actually had better numbers in the AHL (16 games, 2.53, .905) than in the ECHL (22 games, 3.01, .896), though the Waterbabies (or whatever there name is) aren't as strong or developed a team as the Dogs. Still, a creditable performance in his first professional season. Let's not forget that he's only 21. Damphousse - has shown steady improvement in each of the last three seasons. Still relatively young for a goalie (25), but beginning to slip into career-AHLer territory. In position to be the veteran influence. Fichaud - second consecutive solid AHL campaign. Prone to injury. Likely won't be re-signed. Any 2 of Danis, Michaud, Damphousse seem capable of winning spots on the Dog team. Danis is a lock for Hamilton, as where else would he play? He's looked good in his 3 AHL appreances, and he even forced Michaud to the ECHL and then when recalled, it was Michaud sitting in the stands watching the game and Danis as the backup (even played one period, didn't let in any goals) so I'd say Jarvis/management are giving a vote of confidence to Danis over Michaud. With Danis's lack of experience, I can't see him anywhere but Hamilton, where he hopefully is the starter. Michaud, Fichaud and Damphousse are all RFA's. Damphousse does have a team option though. Michaud could go back to the ECHL, but I can't see him on the Dogs. A Danis/Michaud combo has no experience, and Jarivs didn't seem very confident in Michaud before Danis was signed, as he rode Damphousse hard as soon as he returned from injury, playing him in 3 games in 3 days, and 4 games in 5 days (before Damphousse had to be pulled as he was swiss chesse from the sound of it in the final game of his run) I'd guess and say Danis-Hamilton, Michaud- ECHL (once we find a new ECHL team, since we no longer have an ECHL team anymore) So the question is who do they bring back, Damphousse or Fichuad? I personally like Fichaud more as he seems more solid in nets, but he had some injury problems, so I don't know how that will effect him. Damphousse had a decent year and from the sound of it he had a strong playoff drive until the final 2 games but I only listened on the radio, so I can't say. It will be interesting what they do with the goalies in Hamilton.
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on May 29, 2004 15:42:16 GMT -5
Danis is a lock for Hamilton, as where else would he play? The ECHL. Perhaps they just wanted an immediate look at their newest acquistion. He'll have to win the job. I would opt for Damphousse, since he is the younger of the two (25) and still has an oustide shot at making it to the show. Indeed it will be, and it will be a winning situation no matter the outcome.
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Post by montreal on May 29, 2004 16:46:46 GMT -5
The ECHL. Perhaps they just wanted an immediate look at their newest acquistion. He'll have to win the job. I would opt for Damphousse, since he is the younger of the two (25) and still has an oustide shot at making it to the show. Indeed it will be, and it will be a winning situation no matter the outcome. No way Danis plays in the ECHL. We tried for 2 years to sign Danis, and after we get him were going to put him in the ECHL, can't see that happening. I'd be shocked it doesn't make any sense, the kids too good to be in the ECHL, imo, and it shouldn't take long for him to be the starter in hamilton imo. Perhaps they wanted a look at Danis? Except it was during a playoff run, where they were fighting a very tight race for 1st overall and the chance to get a bye, after having a big lead (say 10 pts, it dropped to less then 3 point lead on the Crunch) Why would Jarvis risk 1st place just to get a look at Danis. I listened to Jarvis give an interview, and said that Michaud had some tough outings (although he didn't seem to want to go into too much, Michaud was sent down shortly after for a very brief few days before the ECHL season was over) To me Jarvis didn't sound very confident in Michaud, and putting him in the ECHL and in the stands, shows me he perfered Danis. It would be crazy to risk putting in lesser skilled goalie during the playoffs just to get a look at him on the bench and in warmups. He did get an apperance, but that was after Damphousse got shelled, and he had no choice. Of course he'll have to win the job, same with every player in the oragnization. Tough call me for, I think Fichaud is better and more consistent, but guess we'll see.
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Post by blaise on May 29, 2004 23:00:40 GMT -5
The ECHL. Perhaps they just wanted an immediate look at their newest acquistion. He'll have to win the job. I would opt for Damphousse, since he is the younger of the two (25) and still has an oustide shot at making it to the show. Indeed it will be, and it will be a winning situation no matter the outcome. I think Danis, unlike Michaud, will not be seen in the ECHL. He is on a faster track to fame than that, M. Beaux-Eaux > Eaux-Beaux > Haut Bois > Oboe. (One of my favorite instruments, by the way. It makes a more mellifluous sound than a Brise Bois.)
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Post by Goldthorpe on May 30, 2004 12:27:14 GMT -5
Danis stats for the last seasons...
Season Team Lge GP G A PIM Min GA EN SO GAA W L T Svs Pct 2000-01 Brown University NCAA 12 0 0 0 667 40 0 0 3.60 2 8 1 316 0.888 2001-02 Brown University NCAA 24 0 0 0 1451 45 0 3 1.86 11 10 2 684 0.938 2002-03 Brown University NCAA 34 0 0 0 2074 80 0 5 2.31 15 14 5 1043 0.929 2003-04 Hamilton Bulldogs AHL 2 0 0 0 120 3 0 1 1.50 2 0 0 42 0.933 2003-04 Brown University NCAA 30 0 0 2 1821 55 0 5 1.81 15 11 4 901 0.942 2003-04 Hamilton Bulldogs AHL 1 0 0 0 11 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0 3 1.000
No matter how you put it, that's friggin good. No way BG signed the guy to send him in the ECHL.
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on May 30, 2004 12:42:34 GMT -5
Nothing is guaranteed. Plenty of players with incredible amateur level statistics have come and gone without making a mark in the NHL.
Granted, Danis looks promising but it is promise as yet undemonstrated in the professional ranks. I am willing to wait and see before annointing him the next Garon.
Hainsey and Hossa were drafted 4 years ago. Where are they now?
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Post by blaise on May 30, 2004 18:36:09 GMT -5
We'll all have to wait a couple of years until Danis finds his proper level. Who knows what that will be? It may be AHL (at a minimum, I suspect), immediate trade bait, Habs backup, or reincarnation of Ken Dryden as a #1 ahead of either Théodore or Garon. The last would be optimal, of course. Not only would it resolve the Théodore-Garon competition but it would also assure the Habs of a young goaltender with potentially more years ahead of him than either of his senior colleagues. It goes without saying that what's best for the team should also be best for its fans. I am not so attached to the incumbents that parting with one or both would leave me forlorn. In the meantime, thank goodness for the added depth, because Fichaud, Michaud, and Damphousse lie outside my comfort zone.
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Post by Skilly on May 31, 2004 19:12:17 GMT -5
This is the first time I have seen Danis' complete stats. On other threads all you would see is his GAA or Save percentage numbers. And I would argue that the numbers mean nothing to me because it is the NCAA - he should be putting up good numbers there if he wants an NHL career.
But this here takes the cake. He has a career record in the NCAA of 43-43-12!!! In the NCAA?? If he needs his team to score for him to win then he is on the wrong team. I expected that he at least had a winning record with Brown, but 0.500! On a good scoring team he may have had a chance at an NHL career, but on the Habs who rely on the goalie 75% of the time these number do not cut it. If he thought Brown was a bad defensive team in the NCAA, wait until he sees what the Habs have in store for him at the NHL level. The defense has only looked good this year because of Theo and Garon, (I know some will say CJ's system, but that system was more for the forwards to come back and help, when the defense were caught on 3 on 2's and 2 on 1's we all knew the goalie was going to have to come up big)
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Post by montreal on May 31, 2004 21:27:41 GMT -5
This is the first time I have seen Danis' complete stats. On other threads all you would see is his GAA or Save percentage numbers. And I would argue that the numbers mean nothing to me because it is the NCAA - he should be putting up good numbers there if he wants an NHL career. But this here takes the cake. He has a career record in the NCAA of 43-43-12!!! In the NCAA?? If he needs his team to score for him to win then he is on the wrong team. I expected that he at least had a winning record with Brown, but 0.500! On a good scoring team he may have had a chance at an NHL career, but on the Habs who rely on the goalie 75% of the time these number do not cut it. If he thought Brown was a bad defensive team in the NCAA, wait until he sees what the Habs have in store for him at the NHL level. The defense has only looked good this year because of Theo and Garon, (I know some will say CJ's system, but that system was more for the forwards to come back and help, when the defense were caught on 3 on 2's and 2 on 1's we all knew the goalie was going to have to come up big) I don't know how well you follow the NCAA, but Danis put up some of the best numbers save % wise/gaa/so's in the NCAA's history. He took a average Brown team to the top of the ECAC for most of the entire season, for a team that was low scoring, Danis was considered the top goalie in the NCAA this year. As for the Habs reference, it means little. He's not on the Habs now, and most likely won't be any time soon, who knows how our defense will look down the road.
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Post by rhabdo on May 31, 2004 21:51:39 GMT -5
This is the first time I have seen Danis' complete stats. On other threads all you would see is his GAA or Save percentage numbers. And I would argue that the numbers mean nothing to me because it is the NCAA - he should be putting up good numbers there if he wants an NHL career. But this here takes the cake. He has a career record in the NCAA of 43-43-12!!! In the NCAA?? If he needs his team to score for him to win then he is on the wrong team. I expected that he at least had a winning record with Brown, but 0.500! On a good scoring team he may have had a chance at an NHL career, but on the Habs who rely on the goalie 75% of the time these number do not cut it. If he thought Brown was a bad defensive team in the NCAA, wait until he sees what the Habs have in store for him at the NHL level. The defense has only looked good this year because of Theo and Garon, (I know some will say CJ's system, but that system was more for the forwards to come back and help, when the defense were caught on 3 on 2's and 2 on 1's we all knew the goalie was going to have to come up big) I see you don't realize that the ECAC is one of the weakest conferences in the NCAA and that Brown isn't one of the best teams in the ECAC. Moreover, Brown has high academic standards and its athletes spend a lot more time studying and a lot less time playiing hockey than players in South Dakota, for instance. ECAC teams play part of their schedule outside their own conference, where they tend to get roughed up. Also, if you rely on win-loss statistics alone, then Luongo must be an atrocious goaltender.
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Post by Skilly on Jun 1, 2004 18:19:03 GMT -5
I see you don't realize that the ECAC is one of the weakest conferences in the NCAA and that Brown isn't one of the best teams in the ECAC. Moreover, Brown has high academic standards and its athletes spend a lot more time studying and a lot less time playiing hockey than players in South Dakota, for instance. ECAC teams play part of their schedule outside their own conference, where they tend to get roughed up. Also, if you rely on win-loss statistics alone, then Luongo must be an atrocious goaltender. Well no .... Luongo is not an atrocious goalie just not able to bring Florida over the top yet. The thing that stands out to me here is 1) "weak conference" (if it is weak and he is an NHL goalie he should have more wins, championships, and be a lot better than 0.500) The Habs are in the toughest division in the NHL, we need better than a 0.500 collegiate goalie. 2) "Brown isn't one of the best teams in the ECAC" .... well hello that is obvious if this "star" is only 0.500, but Montreal is also a relatively weak team in its division as well that relies on its goaltending as we all know. 0.500 in the NHL = no playoffs for you 3) "they spend time studying" - I read this to mean they are smart. Well a team of Joe Juneau's does us no good either. Again having good record breaking GAA, S% , SO's in a weak NCAA conference means nothing. It would be like me going to Saudi Arabia and tearing up their league ..... a big fish in a small pond. The thing that matters is wins ..... in a weak conference he should have more wins. I know many on here are high on Danis, but I can't get overly excited about him knowing where he is coming from, the fact he wasn't drafted, and he doesn't seem able to win any games despite the weak conference.
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Post by montreal on Jun 1, 2004 19:07:34 GMT -5
Again having good record breaking GAA, S% , SO's in a weak NCAA conference means nothing. It would be like me going to Saudi Arabia and tearing up their league ..... a big fish in a small pond Doesn't this sound a bit funny to you? Having set records in save % and gaa and SO's means nothing? I really have a hard time with this comment, and I have no clue how you can say this. If not for Danis, Brown would be fighting Princeton for the bottom of the ECAC (who have some good teams, Cornell, Havard come to mind) But stats aren't everything, neither is just winning. Lets see what he does in Hamilton. And no it's not like you going to Saudi Arabia, cause the ECAC is not that far apart fromt the rest. The WCHA is tops, HE right there, with the CCHA being not too far ahead of the ECAC. The CHA then Atlantic Hockey are weaker conferences, imo.
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Post by rhabdo on Jun 1, 2004 19:31:54 GMT -5
Well no .... Luongo is not an atrocious goalie just not able to bring Florida over the top yet. The thing that stands out to me here is 1) "weak conference" (if it is weak and he is an NHL goalie he should have more wins, championships, and be a lot better than 0.500) The Habs are in the toughest division in the NHL, we need better than a 0.500 collegiate goalie. 2) "Brown isn't one of the best teams in the ECAC" .... well hello that is obvious if this "star" is only 0.500, but Montreal is also a relatively weak team in its division as well that relies on its goaltending as we all know. 0.500 in the NHL = no playoffs for you 3) "they spend time studying" - I read this to mean they are smart. Well a team of Joe Juneau's does us no good either. Again having good record breaking GAA, S% , SO's in a weak NCAA conference means nothing. It would be like me going to Saudi Arabia and tearing up their league ..... a big fish in a small pond. The thing that matters is wins ..... in a weak conference he should have more wins. I know many on here are high on Danis, but I can't get overly excited about him knowing where he is coming from, the fact he wasn't drafted, and he doesn't seem able to win any games despite the weak conference. You are not using common sense. He had great GAA, save% stats against ALL opponents. If he were ordinary, the strong teams would have overwhelmed him and dragged his averages so far down that he couldn't possibly compensate for them with wins against weak teams. The WINS are a function of the team in front of him. If they can't score or defend, how in blazes do you expect him to have a .750 winning %? Finally, SOME teams in the ECAC were competitive nationally even if Brown and several others were not. And weakness of the ECAC is relative -- there are a lot of US college conferences that are still weaker. Anyway, you'll be pleasantly surprised when you actually see Danis up close and don't have to rely on your myopic vision.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 2, 2004 0:36:26 GMT -5
2) "Brown isn't one of the best teams in the ECAC" .... well hello that is obvious if this "star" is only 0.500, but Montreal is also a relatively weak team in its division as well that relies on its goaltending as we all know. 0.500 in the NHL = no playoffs for you Skilly, thought you might benefit from the example of a former NHL goalie who used to dress for us. Look up his stats for 83/84 and 84/85 while with Granby. Barely .500 one year and well below that the other. The guy just never proved himself, eh? www.forecaster.ca/hockeyplus/hockey/player.cgi?0197
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Post by blaise on Jun 2, 2004 9:13:27 GMT -5
Skilly is unimpressed by Yann Danis. Skilly is unimpressed by Chris Higgins. He must also be unimpressed with the people who signed Danis as an expensive free agent and drafted Higgins in the first round. What a sorry organization the Habs must be if they make such costly blunders.
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Post by Skilly on Jun 2, 2004 19:13:43 GMT -5
Skilly is unimpressed by Yann Danis. Skilly is unimpressed by Chris Higgins. He must also be unimpressed with the people who signed Danis as an expensive free agent and drafted Higgins in the first round. What a sorry organization the Habs must be if they make such costly blunders. Wouldn't be the first costly blunder they made. Doug Wickenheiser Alain Heroux Jose Charbonneau Mark Pederson Lindsay Vallis Eric Charron Brent Bilodeau David Wilkie Terry Ryan Matt Higgins It is not that I am not impressed. I haven't seen Danis play at all, so I am basically basing that on a gut feeling, but let's see how he handles Hamilton first before cornating him in Montreal. And with Garon there, even if/when Theo goes Danis will not get the job for a long time. As for HIggins, I think he will be a very steady third or fourth line player. I just don't see him as the saviour that you do ..... we need a big second line RW, not another center smurf.
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Post by Skilly on Jun 2, 2004 19:16:17 GMT -5
If they can't score or defend, how in blazes do you expect him to have a .750 winning %? With the same logic that people are using against Theodore. If he let us down in the NHL playoffs (his team only score more than one goal in 1 game in the second round) then Danis can fall under the same scrutiny. N'est-ce pas?
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Post by rhabdo on Jun 2, 2004 19:42:00 GMT -5
With the same logic that people are using against Theodore. If he let us down in the NHL playoffs (his team only score more than one goal in 1 game in the second round) then Danis can fall under the same scrutiny. N'est-ce pas? Have you seen Danis let in soft goals? Unless you have you have no basis for your comparison.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 2, 2004 20:22:13 GMT -5
It is not that I am not impressed. I haven't seen Danis play at all, so I am basically basing that on a gut feeling, but let's see how he handles Hamilton first before cornating him in Montreal. And with Garon there, even if/when Theo goes Danis will not get the job for a long time. Danis is an insurance policy. Gainey knows this about his goalie depth: - Garon will not stick around and play once a month for ever, he eventually will demand to play more or be traded. - Fichaud and Damphousse were great to replace Garon and Conklin in Hamilton, but do we really want either backing up our #1 in Montreal for any length of time? - Michaud is still very young, but he already has had great bouts of inconsistency at every level of play (CHL, ECHL). He may have the record as the youngest ever Hab goalie to suit up for a game (or a part of a game) in the NHL. However, it could be a long, long, long wait for game #2 (if it comes at all). - The young European goalies Puurula, Halak, Heino-Lindberg are still not signed or over here (who knows if and when they make the move across the pond), and Tarasov's experience with Quebec in the AHL is likely motivation enough to stay put and enjoy his comfy RSL life and salary. Danis takes some of the pressure off, a proven NCAA star who he can now ease into play in Hamilton next season with one of Fichaud or Damphousse. Still too early to determine how his pro career will pan out, but he comes to the show with some good stats, some great recognition/awards this season, so not a bad move at all. Management saw something they liked, and time will tell how he figures into Montreal's future plans...but he definitely increases our goaltending depth nicely.
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Post by montreal on Jun 2, 2004 20:46:26 GMT -5
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Post by HabbaDasher on Jun 3, 2004 8:12:38 GMT -5
I've only seen Higgins play once...last pre-season. For a college player who had never even played one AHL game, he did not look out of place at all. I was impressed. He wasn't as fast as I thought, but he was solid positionally, tough, and showed some soft hands. As far as I know, the Habs see him more as a LW, so I would expect Higgins, Hossa, and Dagenais to be competing for a spot next season.
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Post by BadCompany on Jun 3, 2004 8:21:07 GMT -5
What a bum! Seriously though, NCAA hockey is getting better and better, to the point where it might soon start rivalling the CHL in terms of prospect developement. Number wise, it wouldn't equal the CHL, but as far as top, first round picks go, its already getting up there. Last year, 8 NCAA players were taken in the 1st round, with 2 more American High Schoolers getting the nod. In what was considered a resurgent year for Canadian Junior Hockey, 17 CHL players were taken. Still ahead of the NCAA, but its getting closer...
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jun 3, 2004 9:09:48 GMT -5
Danis is an insurance policy. Gainey knows this about his goalie depth: - Garon will not stick around and play once a month for ever, he eventually will demand to play more or be traded. Garon's stock keeps rising, and I expect by seeing even more action in the upcoming season will continue to do so. The club holds a $1.6M option for the 2005-06 season. It will be exercised. The club exercised their option on Fichaud this past season. I doubt he'll be offered a new contract. A shame in a sense because he has proven to be a high level AHL 'keeper. However, being 28 years old he would just be clogging up the pipeline. Maybe a post as an assistant coach with the 'Dogs, if he's seen as qualified? The club holds an option on Damphousse for the upcoming season. Jarvis seemed to have confidence in him, and he has shown steady improvement over the past few seasons. At only 25, he isn't a write-off yet, but geting close. He would be the "veteran" netminder if kept. Just a pup (21). Coming off a respectable first professional season. Plenty of room, and some time, to mature (or not - though I think he'll do fine). Tarasov is unlikely to return over here. He spent most of his North American sojourn recuperating from surgery on a chronic groin injury, the result of subpar Russian medical attention (related to this issue - Savard himself flew to Europe to rescue Perezhogin from a junior tournament in which the youngster was basically playing on one leg due to a knee injury, and wrangled permission to bring him back to Montréal for proper medical treatment). As well, apparently Tarasov's wife was very unhappy and homesick over here... Indeed, it will be interesting to watch Danis boy. At age 23 there may be more than the usual prospect's need to show simmering inside him. The window of opportunity and all that...
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 3, 2004 10:29:45 GMT -5
It seems to me that a kid named Dryden came straight out of college to play in the NHL playoffs and win the cup. A kid named Vachon came out of Jr. B ranks into the playoffs too.
No it's not the norm, and you won't get rich betting on longshots, but from what I hear, (I've never seen Danis play), Gainey thinks highly of him and that's good enough for me. He has many writers who think highly of him too.
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jun 3, 2004 13:42:01 GMT -5
As a Junior player, he was good but not a top-shelf prospect; he was never selected in the NHL entry draft.
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“I was coming to Brown to get an education and play hockey,” he says. “Maybe if I played well for four years and I was lucky, I’d be invited to an NHL camp. Nowhere in my mind was I thinking about being drafted or being offered a contract.”<br> *
Last summer, the Washington Capitals and Montreal Canadiens made him contract offers, but after weighing them carefully, Danis turned them down, deciding that neither offered enough money or opportunity to make him forgo his senior year at Brown. “With the Hobey Baker talk and all the scouts at our games, there was a lot of pressure on Yann, but he responded,” says Grillo. *** Alrighty then. Next floor. Watch your step.
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Post by Forum Ghost on Jun 3, 2004 14:42:22 GMT -5
Again having good record breaking GAA, S% , SO's in a weak NCAA conference means nothing. It would be like me going to Saudi Arabia and tearing up their league ..... a big fish in a small pond. The thing that matters is wins ..... in a weak conference he should have more wins. I know many on here are high on Danis, but I can't get overly excited about him knowing where he is coming from, the fact he wasn't drafted, and he doesn't seem able to win any games despite the weak conference. When judging the ability of a goaltender, one usually puts the majority of the weight on his GAA and Sv%. Wins are looked at but are not given as much importance because wins are more of a team stat. They are not looked at as being an individual stat. On the same token, I recall you saying that Theodore had a better season in 2003/04 than he did in 2001/02 just because he had 3 more wins. I find it difficult to make sense of this considering the fact that his GAA and Sv% were not as strong as they were in 2001/02. Theo's numbers this year were good, but to say that he played better this season compared to two years ago based on three extra wins, does not make too much sense to me. With Danis, rather than looking so closely at wins, why don't you consider the strong GAA and Sv% numbers that he put up? Also, why are you judging him based on the fact that he went undrafted? Danis going undrafted has nothing to do with how he might potentially do in the NHL. To prove that, here's a list of some other noteworthy NHLers who went undrafted: Ed Belfour Curtis Joseph Mike Keane John Madden Adam Oates Brian Rafalski Steve Thomas Martin St. Louis It is not that I am not impressed. I haven't seen Danis play at all, so I am basically basing that on a gut feeling. You're saying that your views on Danis are based on a "gut-feeling", but how can you have a gut-feeling if you've never seen him play?
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Post by Skilly on Jun 3, 2004 17:43:35 GMT -5
Have you seen Danis let in soft goals? Unless you have you have no basis for your comparison. Theo let in soft goals. OK. But he would have had to have at least 3 shutouts to beat Tampa because his team mates were certainly not going to give Khabi any sunburns from turning that red light on behind him. I haven't seen Danis let in any goals , so I don't know if they are soft or not. But if you wish you can provide me with your synopsis of every goal scored on Danis in the NCAA, I am sure they were all goals he had no chance on. A strong goal in the NCAA could equate to a weak goal in the NHL. I reserve the right to criticize him until I see him play for Hamilton and/or he delivers the Conn Smythe ...... hmmmmm .... that sounds familiar ....
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