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Post by blny on Dec 7, 2013 13:27:13 GMT -5
Crisp might be a bit of a sleeper.
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Post by seventeen on Dec 7, 2013 16:29:24 GMT -5
Three of the players are worth commenting about. Bozon was obviously committed to a good game playing against his old club, but I'm not sold. I could probably get a couple of points a game playing with Sam Reinhart. Having said that one of Bozon's goals (sharp angle to top corner) was quite the snipe. Hudon is just a really smart, sneaky player. If he could just grow a couple of inches, add 20 pounds, he'd be a steal of that draft. Crisp reminds me a fair bit of Lucic. His skating looks slow, but it's not that bad, and he's tough to knock off the puck. A smaller checker tried to take the body at the blue line on his second goal and literally bounced off and Crisp hardly lost any momentum. He also scores dirty goals with tip-ins and rebounds and I like that at lot as we don't have enough of it on the Habs. As BLNY says, he could really be a steal. It's all about the skating and if he can turn into an NHL skater, he'll make it. |
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Post by BadCompany on Dec 11, 2013 7:26:07 GMT -5
Another goal for Crisp last night. That's 10 in his last 9 games.
As a reminder he's 6'4, 225lbs.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Dec 11, 2013 11:55:17 GMT -5
Another goal for Crisp last night. That's 10 in his last 9 games. As a reminder he's 6'4, 225lbs. First 11 games: 6 goals, 14 points Next 11 games: zero point Last 9 games: 10, 11 points He really seem to work by sequence. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Dec 11, 2013 18:53:25 GMT -5
Another goal for Crisp last night. That's 10 in his last 9 games. As a reminder he's 6'4, 225lbs. very Good News! |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Dec 15, 2013 11:07:42 GMT -5
An article about Zachary Fucale and Team Canada's goaltending (past and present) at the world juniors. thehockeywriters.com/canadiens-prospect-zach-fucale-will-fix-canadas-world-junior-goaltending-problem/This edition of the WJC should be a good one to see some Habs prospects. Although lineups are not all finalized, the following should be on display for their respective countries: Canada: Zachary Fucale and Charles Hudon. Sweden: Sebastian Collberg and Jacob DeLaRose. Finland: Artturi Lehkonen. Slovakia: Martin Reway. |
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Post by Skilly on Dec 15, 2013 15:42:33 GMT -5
Crisp might be a bit of a sleeper. Might? He was drafted in his second year of eligibility, and wasn't even ranked in the final 210 North American skaters for the draft. I'd be very surprised if he ever plays in the NHL. I know very little about the OHL, but I'd hazard a guess that Crisp's role is to protect Connor McDavid. I'd like to know how many of his goals were assisted by the phenom McDavid. |
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Post by Andrew on Dec 15, 2013 16:37:47 GMT -5
Crisp might be a bit of a sleeper. Might? He was drafted in his second year of eligibility, and wasn't even ranked in the final 210 North American skaters for the draft. I'd be very surprised if he ever plays in the NHL. I know very little about the OHL, but I'd hazard a guess that Crisp's role is to protect Connor McDavid. I'd like to know how many of his goals were assisted by the phenom McDavid. No points with McDavid this season, as he was traded to Sudbury in the offseason. I don't follow the OHL that closely either, however, I believe he was passed in his draft year due to missing a season from injury. Prior to that he hadn't really developed an offensive game, however, did have somewhat of a breakout year last year with 22 goals and 139 PIM. Not to say that I'm thrilled with the pick, however, at this point I'm liking the Crisp pick more than McCarron. |
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Post by Skilly on Dec 15, 2013 17:04:21 GMT -5
Might? He was drafted in his second year of eligibility, and wasn't even ranked in the final 210 North American skaters for the draft. I'd be very surprised if he ever plays in the NHL. I know very little about the OHL, but I'd hazard a guess that Crisp's role is to protect Connor McDavid. I'd like to know how many of his goals were assisted by the phenom McDavid. No points with McDavid this season, as he was traded to Sudbury in the offseason. I don't follow the OHL that closely either, however, I believe he was passed in his draft year due to missing a season from injury. Prior to that he hadn't really developed an offensive game, however, did have somewhat of a breakout year last year with 22 goals and 139 PIM. Not to say that I'm thrilled with the pick, however, at this point I'm liking the Crisp pick more than McCarron. Thanks! |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Dec 16, 2013 16:52:18 GMT -5
No points with McDavid this season, as he was traded to Sudbury in the offseason. I don't follow the OHL that closely either, however, I believe he was passed in his draft year due to missing a season from injury. Prior to that he hadn't really developed an offensive game, however, did have somewhat of a breakout year last year with 22 goals and 139 PIM. Not to say that I'm thrilled with the pick, however, at this point I'm liking the Crisp pick more than McCarron. Thanks! If McCarron's skating improves he can replace Parros. Good use of a first round pick. It's like Dolly Parton after a visit to the plastic surgeon. She got bigger but did her voice improve? |
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Post by franko on Dec 16, 2013 18:00:09 GMT -5
If McCarron's skating improves he can replace Parros. Good use of a first round pick. It's like Dolly Parton after a visit to the plastic surgeon. She got bigger but did her voice improve? voice? she has a voice? [that's the 17 year old franko speaking there] |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Dec 19, 2013 15:38:40 GMT -5
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Post by drkcloud on Dec 20, 2013 18:23:50 GMT -5
I must be slow on the uptake this season. I just saw McCarron not on the USA junior roster.I think this is a huge indictment. If he cant keep up at a tournament like this, how does he merit a first round pick? Does not speak well for his development thus far. I continue to hear how atrocious his skating is
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Dec 20, 2013 18:33:48 GMT -5
Collberg with a sweet goal today against the US in pre tourney play. He is #15. m.youtube.com/watch?v=jBWVEom_vAc&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DjBWVEom_vAcCharles Hudon has been traded to Baie Comeau, so he will be a teammate of fellow Hab prospect Jeremy Gregoire on a better team than he just left. Hudon is still on Team Canada's roster as they cut two today and only have one player left to cut to finalize their roster. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Dec 21, 2013 22:19:59 GMT -5
Hudon and Fucale vs. Collberg and DeLaRose Sunday morning on TSN in pre tourney play. Paterson likely gets the start, so Fucale should be getting the front tow seat tomorrow. Start time is 11:00 am Eastern, 9:00 am Mountain. The Finns with Lekhonen are on prior to that against the Americans, but I think I will save my early morning games for the real tourney.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 22, 2013 12:24:01 GMT -5
Watching the Sweden/Canada right now and the Swedes are pretty much dictating the play. De La Rose looks impressive. Very nice setup on the first goal.
Cheers.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Dec 22, 2013 13:32:34 GMT -5
Sweden was much better than Canada today in all aspects of the game. DLR and Collberg with an assist each. Collberg showed good speed and offensive skill, as he plays on the top line and first PP unit. DLR had a very good game, with a really nice backhanded behind the net pass that fooled everyone but his line mate. He plays on the second PP and top PK unit, so he is a good two way player. He has good speed and size. Hudon is said to be in a battle with Girard for the last cut. Not sure either did much today.
I did not see the US Finland game, but the US won 3-2 but Lehkonen had a goal and an assist, being part of both of Finland's goals.
Canada is back on TSN tomorrow morning against Switzerland, for their last warm up match.
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Post by blny on Dec 22, 2013 15:07:55 GMT -5
Sweden looks like a team to beat for sure. DLR was a name said a lot during the game - in a good way. He's a big body, skates very well, and engages his check. He may not be a bruiser, but he'll be the guy hounding you into making mistakes.
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Post by BadCompany on Dec 23, 2013 8:21:30 GMT -5
I must be slow on the uptake this season. I just saw McCarron not on the USA junior roster.I think this is a huge indictment. If he cant keep up at a tournament like this, how does he merit a first round pick? Does not speak well for his development thus far. I continue to hear how atrocious his skating is McCarron was always going to be a project, they knew that when they drafted him. Lets face it, 6'5, 240lbs eighteen year olds who play physical, skate, and score don't last until the back half of the first round. They go top five, if not first overall. Tinordi, if I'm not mistaken, also didn't make the USA team coming out of his draft year too, and we still have high hopes for him, right? Sweden looks like a team to beat for sure. DLR was a name said a lot during the game - in a good way. He's a big body, skates very well, and engages his check. He may not be a bruiser, but he'll be the guy hounding you into making mistakes. I watched the game and he reminded me a lot of Lars Eller. Same type of frame (when we first got Eller that is), same skating, same dogged determinedness. Like Eller the question with DLR has always been his offensive upside. While that pass for the goal was a thing of beauty I would be willing to bet that his team-mate was screaming for the puck, so I'm not sure how much credit to give DLR for that one. Nonetheless, a nice play. I think he might be a "tweener", like Eller. 2nd/3rd line player who can play in all situations, moving up and down the line-up as needed. If he can put on the muscle like Eller has been doing he should be a very nice player for us in the future. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Dec 23, 2013 9:08:45 GMT -5
Charles Hudon officially makes the team as they cut Girard who reaggravated his separated shoulder in the first pre tourney warm up game. After the heart break of making the team last year only to get injured in the pre tourney game and get sent home, I am sure Hudon is both thrilled and empathetic for Girard.
Bobby Mac is tweeting that Paterson is likely to get the start today against the Swiss in the last warm up game. That likely gives him the edge to be the starter on Boxing Day.
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Post by GNick99 on Dec 23, 2013 18:13:32 GMT -5
I must be slow on the uptake this season. I just saw McCarron not on the USA junior roster.I think this is a huge indictment. If he cant keep up at a tournament like this, how does he merit a first round pick? Does not speak well for his development thus far. I continue to hear how atrocious his skating is McCarron will never be a good offensive player...he is mode of big, physical forward. Not exactly like Lucic but similar impact on team |
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Post by seventeen on Dec 23, 2013 21:07:50 GMT -5
I must be slow on the uptake this season. I just saw McCarron not on the USA junior roster.I think this is a huge indictment. If he cant keep up at a tournament like this, how does he merit a first round pick? Does not speak well for his development thus far. I continue to hear how atrocious his skating is McCarron will never be a good offensive player...he is mode of big, physical forward. Not exactly like Lucic but similar impact on team Sounds a lot like exactly what we need. Except for a natural scorer, which don't grow on trees. |
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Post by Andrew on Dec 24, 2013 0:43:23 GMT -5
I must be slow on the uptake this season. I just saw McCarron not on the USA junior roster.I think this is a huge indictment. If he cant keep up at a tournament like this, how does he merit a first round pick? Does not speak well for his development thus far. I continue to hear how atrocious his skating is McCarron will never be a good offensive player...he is mode of big, physical forward. Not exactly like Lucic but similar impact on team That's the problem that I have. It wouldn't be a smart pick to draft a bottom 6 player with your first pick in the strongest draft in a decade, so there must be an expectation that he'll develop into a Lucic type of player that can skate in the top 6 and chip in 50 points, while adding toughness and ability to win battles down low and create space for his linemates. If he's not capable of any offence then he's a bottom 6 plug, and a wasted pick IMO. |
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Post by seventeen on Dec 26, 2013 21:22:24 GMT -5
Let's give McCarron some time before we class him a bottom 6 player. Tinordi looked like a bust his first year in the OHL and improved hugely in year two. Speaking of Tinordi, he got an assist on the winning OT goal against the Marlies today. He took a very heavy slap shot from the top of the face-off circle that McIntyre could't handle and Pateryn put in the rebound. Not sure what Tinordi and Pateryn were doing, both that close to the opposition goal, but it turned out well.
In the WJC today, Hudon looked like he was gaining Sutter's confidence. From getting very little time early in the game, he was practically a regular in the last half of the third, often with Drouin and Mantha. What was noticable is that when he was on the ice, his line drew 3 penalties by the Germans. And he wasn't on that often early on, so that really is a message. It looked like Sutter may not have been all that happy with the chemistry with Leier (sp?) and inserted Hudon for a shift and it kept working. Doesn't look like Fucale is going to get much playing time. Sutter may dress him for the next game, but then it'll be back to Patterson on a permanent basis unless he stinks the joint out. You're hoping for him, of course, but this little devil on one shoulder is hoping he messes up, to open the door for Fucale.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Dec 27, 2013 0:57:59 GMT -5
DLR with two assists today in a 5-4 win over the Swiss. Collberg was held pointless but missed most of the game with the flu.
Reway and Lekhonen will make their debuts tomorrow.
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Post by GNick99 on Dec 27, 2013 1:59:42 GMT -5
McCarron will never be a good offensive player...he is mode of big, physical forward. Not exactly like Lucic but similar impact on team That's the problem that I have. It wouldn't be a smart pick to draft a bottom 6 player with your first pick in the strongest draft in a decade, so there must be an expectation that he'll develop into a Lucic type of player that can skate in the top 6 and chip in 50 points, while adding toughness and ability to win battles down low and create space for his linemates. If he's not capable of any offence then he's a bottom 6 plug, and a wasted pick IMO. Could look at it like that but every team needs the big, physical 50 point getter. Habs really needed size with this pick. Wasn't nothing available at 25 who didn't come with a negative. Petan, Klimchuk, Dano, or a Hartman lack of size was their question mark. Habs had a bit of depth on the blueline, knew Fucale would be there in 2nd round. Who would you took at 25? |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Dec 27, 2013 10:58:48 GMT -5
Wow, Reway just scored in the third for his fourth point against Germany. His line is lighting up the Germans.
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Post by Andrew on Dec 27, 2013 11:36:34 GMT -5
That's the problem that I have. It wouldn't be a smart pick to draft a bottom 6 player with your first pick in the strongest draft in a decade, so there must be an expectation that he'll develop into a Lucic type of player that can skate in the top 6 and chip in 50 points, while adding toughness and ability to win battles down low and create space for his linemates. If he's not capable of any offence then he's a bottom 6 plug, and a wasted pick IMO. Could look at it like that but every team needs the big, physical 50 point getter. Habs really needed size with this pick. Wasn't nothing available at 25 who didn't come with a negative. Petan, Klimchuk, Dano, or a Hartman lack of size was their question mark. Habs had a bit of depth on the blueline, knew Fucale would be there in 2nd round. Who would you took at 25? Hard to say. I hadn't seen any of these guys play, so any opinions are based on various online rankings. I liked what I'd read of Compher, Hartman and Erne at the time. I get the feeling that Timmins was instructed to pick "biggest" player available, and not "best". I'll be thrilled if I'm eating my words about McCarron, but to me he seems like a pretty big gamble. Time will tell. |
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Post by seventeen on Dec 28, 2013 14:06:50 GMT -5
Not much in the way of comments for the Canada/Czech game. Hudon has been very good IMO, given the amount of ice time he's gotten. Besides helping draw all those penalties against the Germans, he comes up with the tying goal in today's game, leading to the shootout. Ekblad and McDavid played a very nervous game today, especially McDavid. Ekblad will be ok now, after scoring the 3rd goal. McDavid is just too pumped and needs to be calmed down. Sutter sat him for most of the 3rd. Czechs have worked very hard but got a lot of good bounces on blocked shots and some less than stellar finishing on Canada's part. Good game. Shootout time.
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Post by seventeen on Dec 28, 2013 14:17:51 GMT -5
Drouin undresses Langhammer, roofs it. Up one.
Patterson saves the first Czech shot. Nic Petan up next.
Langhammer saves it.
Czechs score, Shootout tied.
Sutter gives McDavid a try and he loses the puck off his stick. OUch.
Czechs win.
Overall thoughts....Czechs had a lot of horseshoes today. Canada outplayed them by a two to one margin IMO, but very timely scoring, some fortunate bounces and a lot of hard work on their part ends up in a Canada loss. Canada has improved from their previous game, though. If I'm Sutter, I bring down Leier's ice time. I realize he must be having a good year with Portland, but it's like he has a black cloud hanging over him. He had three excellent chances to score today and missed on each one. Then he has the Czech's 3rd goal go in off him. Hudon, who is not playing much, makes things happen. He checks well and is very smart offensively. He's got to get more ice time, at someone's expense. McDavid just had one of those bad games that occur every once in a while. I wish Sutter hadn't put him in the shootout, though. Some days, when things aren't going well, they keep not going well until the next game. It was almost predictable that he wouldn't score and wouldn't score in an awkward way. His whole game was like that.
Our goaltending was interesting today. I can't recall a tough save that Patterson made....maybe one. Which shows how dominating Canada actually was today and also doesn't bode well. Two shots went in high (which are hard to stop). One bounced in off Ekblad after three Canadians played pinball with the puck in the crease and another went 5 hole. Two goals came off face-off losses.
It just seemed that every real chance the Czech's got, the puck went in and Canada would have to get a lot of chances before their shots went in. Oh well, at least we improved. If this keeps up, we are going to be a very dangerous team by the time the playoffs roll around.
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