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Post by Skilly on Apr 19, 2015 8:59:47 GMT -5
Ducks are getting away with a lot too. Copperberg held Bryan Little's stick quite blatantly so he couldn't get to a puck around the boards. Copperberg gets the puck and scores. Yeah, you don't call it as tight in the playoffs, but when you swing a possession that obviously, it should be called. There was lots let go in that game. A Duck was hauled down on a breakaway, it was an obvious penalty shot call ... No penalty at all was assessed.
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Post by franko on Apr 19, 2015 11:42:09 GMT -5
Hartley fined $50G for the actions of his team last game
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Post by Disp on Apr 19, 2015 12:53:52 GMT -5
Isles really taking it to the caps. 1-0, but the shots are 33-12. Ice tilted heavily. Caps are getting a pp with about 1.5 left in the 2nd.
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Post by Skilly on Apr 19, 2015 14:09:57 GMT -5
Isles win on an OT goal 15 seconds into the extra frame.
So many mistakes on that play ... They were lacsidasical on the faceoff, Holtby didn't freeze the shot, Carlson gives it away, Orpik lazily pushes it to Tavares on the rebound ... And it's in the net
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Post by seventeen on Apr 19, 2015 14:12:03 GMT -5
Ducks are getting away with a lot too. Copperberg held Bryan Little's stick quite blatantly so he couldn't get to a puck around the boards. Copperberg gets the puck and scores. Yeah, you don't call it as tight in the playoffs, but when you swing a possession that obviously, it should be called. There was lots let go in that game. A Duck was hauled down on a breakaway, it was an obvious penalty shot call ... No penalty at all was assessed. I didn't see all the game, so missed that one. The principle stands, though. If an important possession change occurs as a result, or a scoring chance is taken away, the penalty should be called, for everyone. On the other hand, the Ducks tied the game on a PP where Ladd highsticked someone. I missed seeing the highstick because the Ducks player didn't seem to react much, there was no scoring chance taken away, and no important possession change that might initiate a scoring chance. But as you know, a high stick is automatic. But you can haul someone down on a penalty? I know refs make make-up calls when they've blown an earlier call, so maybe that's what's happening and if you're not following the whole game, might not appreciate that. They're human, and I suspect the games will get better as they dwindle down and the better officials handle the games.
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Post by Skilly on Apr 19, 2015 14:24:28 GMT -5
I watched that game 17 ... The entire first half of the game, the Jets got away with everything. Getzlaf was extremely frustrated . The second half there was so much let go both ways, but it was more even, If Jets fans are going to point to the refereeing than they should look at the game in its entirety, cause the first period was god-awful slanted towards the Jets
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Post by seventeen on Apr 19, 2015 14:29:02 GMT -5
Gotcha, thanks Skilly. I saw the 3rd period, so missed all the early stuff. Jets are just going to have to play better I guess, if they want to move on. That is a tough series. There are going to be a lot of bruised, tired bodies by the end. I hope it goes 7 .
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Post by franko on Apr 20, 2015 8:03:46 GMT -5
and in this corner . . . Ribs v Shaw
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 20, 2015 23:25:11 GMT -5
^^^^^^ How appropriate the ad on the boards is ORKIN.
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Ducks with a 5-4 OT win over the Jets.
Both of Rogers' Canadian favourites are down 0-3.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 21, 2015 0:07:14 GMT -5
I thought Winnipeg was built well for the playoffs, but it seems success, this year, revolves around speed rather than size. Or I could just be blowing smoke.
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Post by franko on Apr 21, 2015 6:02:19 GMT -5
well that just shoots my bracket. I flipped a coin on the "Winnipeg or Minnesota for the upset" pick . . . looks like I read the toss wrong.
Winnipeg looking to keep it's streak of never winning a playoff round going.
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Post by blny on Apr 21, 2015 6:11:18 GMT -5
I think it boils down to discipline. Jet's have cup winners - Ladd, Frolik, Buff - but they're lacking discipline as a group. I think Buff's penalty after Perry's goal typifies it. Anaheim's current group doesn't have significantly more playoff experience - if at all. Perry, Getzlaf and Kesler have all had long playoff runs. There's a lot of youth after that though.
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Post by franko on Apr 21, 2015 6:18:40 GMT -5
wonder if the Sens would like a do-over on the Silfverberg / Ryan trade.
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Post by blny on Apr 21, 2015 6:21:27 GMT -5
wonder if the Sens would like a do-over on the Silfverberg / Ryan trade. I would say there's not doubt JS brings more to the ice when he isn't scoring.
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Post by blny on Apr 21, 2015 20:38:38 GMT -5
Wings playing a nearly perfect playoff game. Less than 2 minutes to go. Bolts got a little desperate, Paquette running Mrazek. I give the Wings a lot of credit. Despite the Bolts having the worst road record of any playoff team (according to Sportsnet), I expected them to take control of the series after the big win in game 2. 3-0 on an EN goal.
Haven't watched much of the Isles Caps game, but the Isles had 4 pp chances and didn't look good on any. The Caps Wilson took a penalty for kneeing, and upon leaving the box promptly took a charging penalty on Visnovsky. Took Lubo out of the game. Not sure if he's returned.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 21, 2015 21:11:18 GMT -5
The disparity between the Bolts at home and away is amazing. Except against us, of course. Then they look great everywhere.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 21:51:57 GMT -5
Detroit is doing better than most would have expected. Not sure if they'll win the series, but this could possibly go to 7.
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Post by blny on Apr 21, 2015 21:57:12 GMT -5
Flames take 3-1 lead into first intermission. Will Miller come in for second? He's making a lot of cash to ride the pine.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 21, 2015 22:23:26 GMT -5
Not sure. He hadn't played much as he didn't come off the DL until the last game of the season. So he could be very rusty. Or he could stone the Flames.
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Post by franko on Apr 21, 2015 22:32:58 GMT -5
just wondering what the Canucks might be missing . . .
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Post by blny on Apr 22, 2015 6:08:33 GMT -5
Hawks win in first minute of 3rd OT. Take 3-1 lead in series.
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Post by franko on Apr 22, 2015 6:12:02 GMT -5
Hawks win in first minute of 3rd OT. Take 3-1 lead in series. stay up for it?
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Post by Polarice on Apr 22, 2015 6:49:26 GMT -5
I thought Winnipeg was built well for the playoffs, but it seems success, this year, revolves around speed rather than size. Or I could just be blowing smoke. The Ducks for the most part were the best team in the entire league all year, The jets were barely scraping by. Anyone who thought the Jets had a chance were buying into the Toronto media's propaganda. The exact thing can be said for the Habs vs Sens. Anyone with a Hockey IQ knew Montreal was the better team.
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Post by Gogie on Apr 22, 2015 7:48:36 GMT -5
I thought Winnipeg was built well for the playoffs, but it seems success, this year, revolves around speed rather than size. Or I could just be blowing smoke. The Ducks for the most part were the best team in the entire league all year, The jets were barely scraping by. Anyone who thought the Jets had a chance were buying into the Toronto media's propaganda. The exact thing can be said for the Habs vs Sens. Anyone with a Hockey IQ knew Montreal was the better team. Yes, but the better team doesn't always win. Check out the 1993 playoffs. The Habs won with a lot of help from a few over-achieving teams beating out the best teams in the league that year. The Penguins were by far the best team in the league that year but the pesky Islanders knocked them off in round 2 in 7 games (the Islanders had 32 fewer points than the Pens that year!!!). The Sabres did the Habs a favour by knocking off the Bruins in round 1 (the Bruins finished first in the Adams, 23 points ahead of Buffalo). The Blues swept the Hawks in Round 1 despite having 31 fewer points. All in all it was a dream year for the Habs. Despite finishing 6th overall in the NHL they only faced one team with a better record in the playoffs - Quebec in round 1 who only finished 2 points ahead of Montreal. I remember that year well - everything went right for Habs.
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Post by blny on Apr 22, 2015 8:10:36 GMT -5
Hawks win in first minute of 3rd OT. Take 3-1 lead in series. stay up for it? No. I watched to end of 2. That game ended at 3:15am ADT.
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Post by franko on Apr 22, 2015 8:14:50 GMT -5
I thought Winnipeg was built well for the playoffs, but it seems success, this year, revolves around speed rather than size. Or I could just be blowing smoke. The Ducks for the most part were the best team in the entire league all year, The jets were barely scraping by. Anyone who thought the Jets had a chance were buying into the Toronto media's propaganda. I thought that Winnipeg could do it -- and I don't listen to the talking heads in TO they match well -- as evidenced by the games. however, the Jets can't hold a lead . . . and I guess don't hold a candle to the Ducks. you've seen, I imagine . . .
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Post by franko on Apr 22, 2015 8:15:32 GMT -5
No. I watched to end of 2. That game ended at 3:15am ADT. actually that's what I thought. you made it later than I did!
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Post by blny on Apr 22, 2015 9:14:21 GMT -5
I gave Winnipeg a shot. Similarly matched teams, Jets have 3 players with cup rings, Pavelec has been good. What it boils down to though is discipline. The Ducks have been smarter and gotten more from their supporting cast.
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Post by Polarice on Apr 22, 2015 9:15:04 GMT -5
The Ducks for the most part were the best team in the entire league all year, The jets were barely scraping by. Anyone who thought the Jets had a chance were buying into the Toronto media's propaganda. The exact thing can be said for the Habs vs Sens. Anyone with a Hockey IQ knew Montreal was the better team. Yes, but the better team doesn't always win. Check out the 1993 playoffs. The Habs won with a lot of help from a few over-achieving teams beating out the best teams in the league that year. The Penguins were by far the best team in the league that year but the pesky Islanders knocked them off in round 2 in 7 games (the Islanders had 32 fewer points than the Pens that year!!!). The Sabres did the Habs a favour by knocking off the Bruins in round 1 (the Bruins finished first in the Adams, 23 points ahead of Buffalo). The Blues swept the Hawks in Round 1 despite having 31 fewer points. All in all it was a dream year for the Habs. Despite finishing 6th overall in the NHL they only faced one team with a better record in the playoffs - Quebec in round 1 who only finished 2 points ahead of Montreal. I remember that year well - everything went right for Habs. We finished that year with 104 points, we were not what I would call underdogs to win a cup. Every team other than Quebec we were the favorites.
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Post by Gogie on Apr 22, 2015 10:16:33 GMT -5
Yes, but the better team doesn't always win. Check out the 1993 playoffs. The Habs won with a lot of help from a few over-achieving teams beating out the best teams in the league that year. The Penguins were by far the best team in the league that year but the pesky Islanders knocked them off in round 2 in 7 games (the Islanders had 32 fewer points than the Pens that year!!!). The Sabres did the Habs a favour by knocking off the Bruins in round 1 (the Bruins finished first in the Adams, 23 points ahead of Buffalo). The Blues swept the Hawks in Round 1 despite having 31 fewer points. All in all it was a dream year for the Habs. Despite finishing 6th overall in the NHL they only faced one team with a better record in the playoffs - Quebec in round 1 who only finished 2 points ahead of Montreal. I remember that year well - everything went right for Habs. We finished that year with 104 points, we were not what I would call underdogs to win a cup. Every team other than Quebec we were the favorites. My point was that we were the 6th best team entering the playoffs. No one expected anyone other than the Pens to win that year (they dominated the league). We were the "favourites" in every round except the first because the favourites kept getting knocked off. If things had gone according to script we would have been the underdogs in every series we played, but fortune smiled on us that year. The Campbell Conference was weaker that year so it could be argued that regardless of what team came out of that conference to play in the finals, the Habs might have been considered the favourites by the time they reached the finals, although I seem to recall that the Kings might have actually been considered the favourites going into the finals. They had some pretty good players, including Gretzky (15 goals and 40 point in the playoffs), Kurri, Robitaille, Blake, Granato and Tomas Sandstrom. Thankfully they had Kelly Hrudy in net.
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