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Post by Willie Dog on May 14, 2015 12:37:07 GMT -5
Since the Habs are picking at the #26 spot, I took a look and there are a few of interesting choices for the forward position 1st is a big kid playing for Portland named Paul Bittner, Left Wing 6'4" 204 lbs that would be a great fit for this team. With him and McCarron on a line, we don't need a big centre  From Elite ProspectsThe 2nd I looked at is Brock Boeser playing in the USHL, Right wing, 6'1" 191 lbs lots of skill in this kid. From Elite ProspectsThe 3rd I looked at is Thomas Novak and is on the same team as Boeser, a centre 6'0" 180 lbs, high skill level and excellent skater From Elite ProspectsBoeser and Novak both played for Waterloo in the USHL and it looks like they are both planning to go to North Dakota, if we pick one we may be able to convince them to go to the CHL like with McCarron. |
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Post by blny on May 14, 2015 12:43:56 GMT -5
Do we still have a second after the Petry deal?
I looked at Bittner slight more than casually a couple of months back in one of Button's prospect reviews I believe. I figured he'd be available roughly around where we projected to be picking. I got the sense he could be a Jason Ward with speed. He's gotten better each of the last two seasons. Had an okay playoff this year. I can't be certain, but I suspect he gets second line minutes behind the trio of guys that are a year older and ahead of him in points by a fair margin. If he becomes a Troy Brouwer type of player, I think he'd be a very strong pick.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 15, 2015 10:07:54 GMT -5
I've been talking to a friend who used to be a scout for the Bruins ... I was asking him about specific prospects last night and I'll post later ... one I will comment on, though, is Paul Bittner ... my friend said he wasn't the smartest player out there ... low hockey sense (I'll take his word for it) ... he said that Lawson Crouse is probably the 3rd-best player in the draft ... the first 15 prospects are can't-miss ... solid players are available right up to the midway point of the second round ...
Cheers.
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Post by seventeen on May 15, 2015 11:50:43 GMT -5
I've been talking to a friend who used to be a scout for the Bruins ... I was asking him about specific prospects last night and I'll post later ... one I will comment on, though, is Paul Bittner ... my friend said he wasn't the smartest player out there ... low hockey sense (I'll take his word for it) ... he said that Lawson Crouse is probably the 3rd-best player in the draft ... the first 15 prospects are can't-miss ... solid players are available right up to the midway point of the second round ... Cheers. Bittner sounds like a Rene Bourque (NO, don't do that to me!). It seems like a deep draft if the first 15 are can't miss. Tks Dis. |
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Post by blny on May 15, 2015 13:07:22 GMT -5
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Post by Anardil1 on May 16, 2015 11:32:08 GMT -5
Not a fan of Bittner. I don't like scouting reports on big guys who don't naturally use their size. The memories of Bourque and Pouliot are still too fresh in my mind.
If we are to go by the rankings in the lastest THN Draft Preview, I would prefer, in order:
Jeremy Roy
Thomas Chabot
Colin White
Joel Eriksson Ek
Jake Debrusk
Tom Novak
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Post by Lord Bebop on May 16, 2015 18:43:26 GMT -5
I might be crazy as he seems to be the exact opposite of what we need but in the 4 or 5 years he should take to develope,our lack of size issue should be addressed and undersized winger/center Anthony Beauvillier could be a good option...... Shoot first type shark plug wouldn't be a bad choice plus he's got that québécois attaction too
I think he has high end talent with tons of character. Could surprise imo the way Getzlaf and Giroux surprised in their draft year
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Post by seventeen on May 16, 2015 22:52:10 GMT -5
He certainly put up the points JJ. What are his strengths-weaknesses?
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Post by Lord Bebop on May 17, 2015 8:57:05 GMT -5
He certainly put up the points JJ. What are his strengths-weaknesses? He's plays with a lot of grit.. I think he has A strong hockey IQ as he is a good 2 way player for a young player...Just doesn't quit on the play.. Love the way he finds ways to get open for shots on net......... Reminds me of Robby Fabbri who was picked last year by the blues He is 5'8 or 5'9 so very small for a center.....I haven't really noticed but some don't think he can carry the puck for very long....plays in the Q which is the weaker league( may help him look better) ...skating is not an issue but would like to see him get alittle faster being so small |
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Post by Anardil1 on May 17, 2015 11:58:05 GMT -5
He certainly put up the points JJ. What are his strengths-weaknesses? He's plays with a lot of grit.. I think he has A strong hockey IQ as he is a good 2 way player for a young player...Just doesn't quit on the play.. Love the way he finds ways to get open for shots on net......... Reminds me of Robby Fabbri who was picked last year by the blues He is 5'8 or 5'9 so very small for a center.....I haven't really noticed but some don't think he can carry the puck for very long....plays in the Q which is the weaker league( may help him look better) ...skating is not an issue but would like to see him get alittle faster being so small I also love Beauvillier, but it could be a bit of a reach at 26. IMHO, if the Habs get their hands on Jeremy Roy, I will rejoice. I see this as the eventual replacement to Markov, a true power play QB, and Quebecois to boot. |
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Post by Lord Bebop on May 17, 2015 12:59:53 GMT -5
He's plays with a lot of grit.. I think he has A strong hockey IQ as he is a good 2 way player for a young player...Just doesn't quit on the play.. Love the way he finds ways to get open for shots on net......... Reminds me of Robby Fabbri who was picked last year by the blues He is 5'8 or 5'9 so very small for a center.....I haven't really noticed but some don't think he can carry the puck for very long....plays in the Q which is the weaker league( may help him look better) ...skating is not an issue but would like to see him get alittle faster being so small I also love Beauvillier, but it could be a bit of a reach at 26. IMHO, if the Habs get their hands on Jeremy Roy, I will rejoice. I see this as the eventual replacement to Markov, a true power play QB, and Quebecois to boot. Plus a right handed shot.... I wouldn't mind him either... Lots of good prospects should be available when our pick comes around. I kinda like Daniel Sprong too... High risk reward type not unlike Andrie Kostitsyn.... Great skill level but a concerning lack of compete... Worth a risk??? Ranked in top of draft based solely on skill. |
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Post by blny on May 17, 2015 13:04:41 GMT -5
I just can't see Berg spending a first round pick on a guy that much under 6'. I've seen Sprong a couple of times, and he's definitely noticeable on the ice. Dangerous, and involved in most of Charlottetown's scoring chances.
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Post by seventeen on May 17, 2015 15:01:04 GMT -5
Wasn't thinking for our 1st pick, but if he falls far enough.
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Post by Anardil1 on May 17, 2015 18:09:23 GMT -5
I just can't see Berg spending a first round pick on a guy that much under 6'. I've seen Sprong a couple of times, and he's definitely noticeable on the ice. Dangerous, and involved in most of Charlottetown's scoring chances. If you're talking about Beauvillier, THN has him listed at 5'10 and 181 lbs. He's also ranked at #48. So unless a team is really enamoured of him, he will be available at 26. However, it would be quite the reach for the 1st pick, thus the reason why I did not include him in my list of preferred 1st picks. Now if the Habs had a 2nd round pick... |
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Post by Lord Bebop on May 18, 2015 11:57:38 GMT -5
I just can't see Berg spending a first round pick on a guy that much under 6'. I've seen Sprong a couple of times, and he's definitely noticeable on the ice. Dangerous, and involved in most of Charlottetown's scoring chances. If you're talking about Beauvillier, THN has him listed at 5'10 and 181 lbs. He's also ranked at #48. So unless a team is really enamoured of him, he will be available at 26. However, it would be quite the reach for the 1st pick, thus the reason why I did not include him in my list of preferred 1st picks. Now if the Habs had a 2nd round pick... Hard to say where he will be picked kinda a dark horse and I wouldn't stick to where THN ranks players...it's a great read but not like the old days where they where highly regarded draft coverage. |
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Post by Anardil1 on May 18, 2015 12:37:20 GMT -5
If you're talking about Beauvillier, THN has him listed at 5'10 and 181 lbs. He's also ranked at #48. So unless a team is really enamoured of him, he will be available at 26. However, it would be quite the reach for the 1st pick, thus the reason why I did not include him in my list of preferred 1st picks. Now if the Habs had a 2nd round pick... Hard to say where he will be picked kinda a dark horse and I wouldn't stick to where THN ranks players...it's a great read but not like the old days where they where highly regarded draft coverage. I don't use THN rankings as gospel, but they are the only rankings that I have on hand at the moment. Although I would be very surprised if Beauvillier went in the first round. |
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Post by Lord Bebop on May 18, 2015 13:02:53 GMT -5
Hard to say where he will be picked kinda a dark horse and I wouldn't stick to where THN ranks players...it's a great read but not like the old days where they where highly regarded draft coverage. I don't use THN rankings as gospel, but they are the only rankings that I have on hand at the moment. Although I would be very surprised if Beauvillier went in the first round. Good point... Love draft time can't wait to add some more quality prospects to organization..... Cupboard is getting alittle thin again it feels... Our weak 2008&2009 drafts hurt our stockpile... I got lots of trust in Timmins so here's hoping we find a gem or 2 |
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Post by Lord Bebop on May 23, 2015 8:47:25 GMT -5
Hard to say where he will be picked kinda a dark horse and I wouldn't stick to where THN ranks players...it's a great read but not like the old days where they where highly regarded draft coverage. I don't use THN rankings as gospel, but they are the only rankings that I have on hand at the moment. Although I would be very surprised if Beauvillier went in the first round. Denis Guryanov is another guy THN underrated IMO... I think he could/should be in the first round as well |
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Post by Willie Dog on May 28, 2015 7:28:01 GMT -5
This kid Evgeny Svechnikov is 6'3" and 205 with high end skill and skating ability. If he falls to 26, he would be a really interesting pick. Evgeny Svechnikov |
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Post by Andrew on Jun 5, 2015 11:31:53 GMT -5
A couple of draft thoughts: 1. McKenzie released his final rankings today, and at 26 is Boeser (one of Willie Dog's picks). Sounds like he could be a good fit. 2. With no 2nd round pick, I wonder if MB will try and swing a deal for one. He could see if there's a taker for our extra 2nd rounder next year that we got in the Gorges deal. CBJ and CAL each have 3 second rounders this year. Perhaps one of them would be interested. Link: www.tsn.ca/mcdavid-tops-mckenzie-s-final-draft-ranking-1.296839 |
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Post by Polarice on Jun 5, 2015 12:38:14 GMT -5
If I was gonna guess on who we pick, my money would be on Carlson. TSN |
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Post by BadCompany on Jun 5, 2015 12:59:29 GMT -5
Since Bergevin took over, his first two picks in each draft have been: Scherbak: 6'2 Lernout: 6'4 McCarron: 6'5 De La Rose: 6'2 Galchenyuk: 6'2 Collberg: 5'10 - no longer with the organization. 4 of the 6 were in North America, and one of those who wasn't was traded. 5 of the 6 are 6'2 or taller, and again, the only "small" guy was traded. So CLEARLY, using that highly sophisticated an extensive statistical analysis we are going to be taking a North American kid who is 6'2 or taller. Looking at McKenzie's rankings then we are looking at: Paul Bittner: 6'4 LW from Portland. www.tsn.ca/paul-bittner-left-wing-1.294079Brandon Carlo: 6'4 defenseman from Tri-City. www.tsn.ca/brandon-carlo-defence-1.294056Thomas Chabot: 6'1 defenseman from Saint John (though he has to stand on his tippy-toes to make the height requirement). www.tsn.ca/thomas-chabot-defence-1.293900Having said that, he hasn't drafted a defenseman in the first round yet, so I guess we can scratch Carlo and Chabot off the list. Paul Bittner it is then.  |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 5, 2015 13:12:20 GMT -5
When are you releasing your Lead to Gold formula?
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Post by Polarice on Jun 5, 2015 13:31:54 GMT -5
Paul Bittner it is then. A line with Bittner and McCarron would be impressive!! |
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Post by blny on Jun 5, 2015 13:46:17 GMT -5
The knocks on Bittner were discussed elsewhere, but I liked some of what I read at the time. Sound offensive acumen, good size though not aggressive physically. More of a use it to protect puck, etc. Good skater. At this point, I'd think low side would be Jason Ward with better wheels. High side might be a Laich type.
I could see Berg trading down. If 'his player' looks like he'll be available a little later, he could trade that first for a second and a third, or two seconds.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 5, 2015 14:28:02 GMT -5
I wonder if we'll even have our first? Some of that speculation with Pleks (and if not him, then some other package) might involve adding our first in order to get that iconic scorer we need. I haven't paid that much attention to the draft because I suspect our first rounder won't be around.
C'est la vie.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 5, 2015 15:43:17 GMT -5
I'm kind of hoping Kyle Connor is available come our pick, but he's just rated too high ... he'd be the big, character centre Bergevin would be looking for ... I mentioned Paul Bittner before ... he's touted very highly as a power forward, but a former Bruin's scout I know told me he has low hockey sense (not the smartest player out there ... take his word for it) ... but there's a lot of positive write-ups on him out there, too ... regardless of the criticisms, these two would help the organization get bigger and tougher ... anyone hear anything on Nicolas Roy ... I've never seen him play, but his stats suggest he might be a defensive version of Radek Bonk ... like I said, I've never seen the kid, though ... Cheers. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 5, 2015 16:06:54 GMT -5
I hope we go big or go home. Either trade the pick or draft a high potential forward. We don't need defensemen or 2 way forwards. Skill or size up front please.
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Post by Polarice on Jun 5, 2015 16:06:57 GMT -5
I'm kind of hoping Kyle Connor is available come our pick, but he's just rated too high ... he'd be the big, character centre Bergevin would be looking for ... I mentioned Paul Bittner before ... he's touted very highly as a power forward, but a former Bruin's scout I know told me he has low hockey sense (not the smartest player out there ... take his word for it) ... but there's a lot of positive write-ups on him out there, too ... regardless of the criticisms, these two would help the organization get bigger and tougher ... anyone hear anything on Nicolas Roy ... I've never seen him play, but his stats suggest he might be a defensive version of Radek Bonk ... like I said, I've never seen the kid, though ... Cheers. He sounds like a good pick to me!!  |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 5, 2015 17:23:31 GMT -5
I'm kind of hoping Kyle Connor is available come our pick, but he's just rated too high ... he'd be the big, character centre Bergevin would be looking for ... I mentioned Paul Bittner before ... he's touted very highly as a power forward, but a former Bruin's scout I know told me he has low hockey sense (not the smartest player out there ... take his word for it) ... but there's a lot of positive write-ups on him out there, too ... regardless of the criticisms, these two would help the organization get bigger and tougher ... anyone hear anything on Nicolas Roy ... I've never seen him play, but his stats suggest he might be a defensive version of Radek Bonk ... like I said, I've never seen the kid, though ... Cheers. He sounds like a good pick to me!! Reap, to be honest I thought of Leaf prospect, Fredrik Gauthier ... other than Gauthier, I don't follow Leafs prospects ... given the way things are in Toronto, I'm thinking Gauthier might have a good chance at making the club this year ... he's projected as a 3rd-line checking centre and that's where I sort of saw Nicolas Roy ... imagine these kids hounding you around the ice ... Cheers. |
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