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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 15, 2015 11:31:43 GMT -5
Good job, as always NWT. Question; do you think Roy could project as a Letang-type player? His frame/size and skill set seem to project in that type of direction. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 23, 2015 15:51:38 GMT -5
Here are some names of prospects who could be around on Saturday when the Habs make their "other" picks. As per usual, these rounds will be shown on the NHL Network, but you often can just follow online and see who the Habs pick since they tend to fill the few hours talking about and to players, rather than keeping it on the draft board. My picks are WAG's, so I expect TT will announce other guys for sure!!
Third Round – Pick 87:
Simon Bourque, D Rimouski (QMJHL), 6’0” 190lbs – A solid all-round defender with a good first pass, vision and IQ. He may be gone a bit earlier than this, but I am sure the Habs have scouted him well.
Ethan Bear, D Seattle (WHL), 6’0” 205lbs – A puck moving blueliner that is solid in both ends, with good skating and a character type that Berg so likes.
Gabriel Gagne, RW Victoriaville (QMJHL), 6’5” 195lbs – A good skater, but needs to add strength to his lanky frame before playing against men. Very raw, but has potential.
Brent Gates Jr, RW Green Bay (USHL), 6’1” 195lbs – Powerful skater with good top speed who battles hard and delivers a good effort on the ice.
Fifth Round – Pick 131:
Andrew Nielsen, D Lethbridge (WHL), 6’3” 210lbs – A smart, physical but somewhat inconsistent defender who skates well. Potential with some technical improvements in his game.
Aleksi Saarela, LW, Assat (SM-Liiga), 5’10” 195lbs – Very skilled offensive player that has not yet developed a strong defensive game and is injury prone to date.
Lukas Jasek, RW HC Trinek (Czech), 6’1” 170lbs – Smart offensively skilled winger that backchecks hard, but does not play a physical game. He needs to get bigger and stronger before coming to NA.
Liam Herbst, G Ottawa (OHL), 6’4” 195lbs – That big frame that teams like in their goalies. Has some technical issues that can be coached (and we have two pretty good goalie coaches) in that he plays too deep in his net and is weak laterally. Has good potential if he can improve some of his technical issues.
Sixth Round – Pick 177:
Tyson Baillie, C Kelowna (WHL), 5’10” 200lbs – An energetic centre who is solid and possesses good hockey IQ.
Matthew Freytag, LW Tri-City (USHL), 6’1” 190lbs – A solid two way player who plays hard and is a relentless forechecker with good hockey IQ.
Stephen Desrocher, D Oshawa (OHL), 6’4” 200lbs – A teammate of McC in the Memorial Cup this past May. Solid defender but there is concern about his foot speed.
Jackson Keane, C Winnipeg Blues (MJHL), 5’9” 155lbs – Yeah he is tiny, but he possesses elite offensive skills (albeit against Junior A competition). Now that all teams are seeking the next Tyler Johson, the Habs have been known to go for smaller skilled guys in the later rounds.
Seventh Round – Pick 207:
Cameron Lizotte, D Peterborough (OHL), 6’2” 195lbs - A physical, nasty defender who is still quite raw. Can improve his skating.
John Dahlstrom, C/LW Frolunda (SHL), 6’0” 185lbs – Hard working two way forward who can play a physical game and has good defensive instincts.
Hayden McCool, LW Windsor (OHL), 6’3” 195lbs – A big, aggressive, hard forechecker who works hard out on the ice…that and he has a great name for draft day!!
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Post by blny on Jun 23, 2015 20:25:02 GMT -5
Button's mock draft tonight has us picking Boeser. I still lean towards Sprong, even though Button doesn't have him in the first.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 23, 2015 20:47:53 GMT -5
Button's mock draft tonight has us picking Boeser. I still lean towards Sprong, even though Button doesn't have him in the first. I could see the Habs picking Boeser if he dropped and was available. Same with a few guys like White/Chabot/JRoy. I could also see Berg trying to trade down for two seconds if his guys are gone. That would make for a long an uneventful night of watching for Habs fans! No picks until Saturday under that scenario. |
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Post by franko on Jun 23, 2015 20:56:50 GMT -5
Button's mock draft tonight has us picking Boeser. I still lean towards Sprong, even though Button doesn't have him in the first. I could see the Habs picking Boeser if he dropped and was available. Same with a few guys like White/Chabot/JRoy. I could also see Berg trying to trade down for two seconds if his guys are gone. That would make for a long an uneventful night of watching for Habs fans! No picks until Saturday under that scenario. from experience . . . that bites. rode out to the Corel Centre (at the time) for the draft, and Habs traded their first for Tanguay (Calgary grabbed Greg Nemisz with the pick, Tyler Ennis went next, but I was too busy cursing the Habs for having me waste an evening to notice). |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 23, 2015 22:15:53 GMT -5
What I'm interested in seeing is, after the first two picks, just how many choices will Craig Button get right. Should be fun.
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Post by blny on Jun 23, 2015 23:04:42 GMT -5
What I'm interested in seeing is, after the first two picks, just how many choices will Craig Button get right. Should be fun. Crap shoot. He selects what he feels fills the team in questions need best. That team may have a bpa philosophy instead of filling an organizational need. |
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Post by PTH on Jun 23, 2015 23:34:28 GMT -5
What I'm interested in seeing is, after the first two picks, just how many choices will Craig Button get right. Should be fun. Crap shoot. He selects what he feels fills the team in questions need best. That team may have a bpa philosophy instead of filling an organizational need. Which also sums up why I don't bother with mock drafts. They just about always look at team needs, whereas most teams draft based on BPA, with maybe a slight preference for organizational needs. Which also means it's very much a question of personal preference for the drafting team. If someone wanted to mock draft, I'd do it purely based on past draft tendencies - ie, source teams. But I haven't seen much of that, ever, anywhere. (we could also look at draft trends: Oilers going for strong skaters, etc.) |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 24, 2015 0:37:21 GMT -5
What I'm interested in seeing is, after the first two picks, just how many choices will Craig Button get right. Should be fun. Crap shoot. He selects what he feels fills the team in questions need best. That team may have a bpa philosophy instead of filling an organizational need. I realize that, but McKenzie gets his picks fairly close to where they actually go. He's hit about 90% on the first rounders each year, though not always at the exact spot. If he picks a guy for the first round, they generally go in the first round. I'm curious to see if Button gets his close or is way off on several. |
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Post by blny on Jun 24, 2015 0:59:25 GMT -5
In years past, iirc, Button used to do strictly bpa. He didn't consider team needs, and as a result is lists were often way off. I think considering team need gets him closer, but there are so many good players this year that it's really hard. Lots of mocks have Meier going anywhere from 9-12, for instance. Bittner is all over the bottom 20. Sprong is in and out of the top 30. Boeser and Debrusk as well. So many level pegging. Imo a thin year is much easier to predict.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 24, 2015 11:00:15 GMT -5
This is a tough year to predict. After the top 10 or 12 players, teams will see very little difference between a large batch of players. Their respective team lists could have guys all over the map. Not that an early second rounder is bad this year (in fact the players in the second round are darn good in this deep draft), it is just that teams will have their preferences that distinguish between a number of players that are relatively closely batched together.
Teams, for the most part, do tend to go the BPA route. However, teams have their drafting tendencies (both preferences and dislikes). There are also a number of teams with several first round picks or lots of second round picks, so they may go after "needs" a bit with some of their second and third picks of the draft once they get their stud BPA earlier on.
I have fun doing a mock draft most years, as it gets me more involved in the draft. It also gets me to narrow down my focus on players that likely will be available when the Habs pick rather than a lot of guys that are most likely long gone when they pick. Given all of those factors above and where the Habs pick (#26 right in that grey zone), there are still a lot of different players that the Habs could be targeting and even one or two who may surprisingly still be available when they get to the podium. It will only take a couple of GMs in the first 25 to go off the map a tad, and this is a year where that could happen.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 24, 2015 12:20:18 GMT -5
This is a tough year to predict. After the top 10 or 12 players, teams will see very little difference between a large batch of players. I wouldn't be surprised to see Berg try to switch his pick for 2 second rounders or a second and a third. If there's someone available that another team really wants, it opens the opportunity. |
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Post by PTH on Jun 24, 2015 13:08:32 GMT -5
This is a tough year to predict. After the top 10 or 12 players, teams will see very little difference between a large batch of players. I wouldn't be surprised to see Berg try to switch his pick for 2 second rounders or a second and a third. If there's someone available that another team really wants, it opens the opportunity. I'm all for that. Even though it leads to a less sexy draft in the post-draft writeups, if our top names aren't "household" prospects. Drafting is an art, not a science, and I think we'll have better odds just by having more names up on the board. I can't help but think back to guys like Tinordi and Latendresse, who we traded up to be able to draft.... what if we'd hung onto our picks and gotten more guys to try and develop ? (this isn't a knock on Latendresse, and he showed enough to be worth trading up for) |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 24, 2015 13:08:46 GMT -5
This is a tough year to predict. After the top 10 or 12 players, teams will see very little difference between a large batch of players. I wouldn't be surprised to see Berg try to switch his pick for 2 second rounders or a second and a third. If there's someone available that another team really wants, it opens the opportunity. From a pure maximizing your assets from this draft, this makes sense. In this draft, there are many who would argue that two early to mid second rounders are likely worth more than a first round pick at #26. Now, he would have to get some other team to pull the trigger too. Don't get me wrong, giving up that late second was worth it to get a second pairing Dman for six years...but it would be great to score a second round pick by Saturday. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 24, 2015 13:38:33 GMT -5
This is a tough year to predict. After the top 10 or 12 players, teams will see very little difference between a large batch of players. I wouldn't be surprised to see Berg try to switch his pick for 2 second rounders or a second and a third. If there's someone available that another team really wants, it opens the opportunity. This idea was all over Twitter yesterday ... I'll try to find the reference once I get home ... work servers filter out social media sites ... Cheers. |
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Post by blny on Jun 24, 2015 13:45:11 GMT -5
This is a tough year to predict. After the top 10 or 12 players, teams will see very little difference between a large batch of players. I wouldn't be surprised to see Berg try to switch his pick for 2 second rounders or a second and a third. If there's someone available that another team really wants, it opens the opportunity. I wondered that some time ago, and if he wants to go pure offense he can likely get Sprong early in the second. The only questions I'm aware of when it comes to Sprong revolve around him being a puck hog at times. They're not a deep team in Charlottetown, and the offense does revolve around him. If that's his biggest knock, it's minor. RHS, RW too. Get a very early second rounder and something in the 50s and get two for the price of one. |
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Post by blny on Jun 24, 2015 13:46:19 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised to see Berg try to switch his pick for 2 second rounders or a second and a third. If there's someone available that another team really wants, it opens the opportunity. From a pure maximizing your assets from this draft, this makes sense. In this draft, there are many who would argue that two early to mid second rounders are likely worth more than a first round pick at #26. Now, he would have to get some other team to pull the trigger too. Don't get me wrong, giving up that late second was worth it to get a second pairing Dman for six years...but it would be great to score a second round pick by Saturday. IMO, I'd have it on the burner but wouldn't pull the trigger until he was reasonably sure his player would be available. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 24, 2015 15:08:02 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised to see Berg try to switch his pick for 2 second rounders or a second and a third. If there's someone available that another team really wants, it opens the opportunity. I wondered that some time ago, and if he wants to go pure offense he can likely get Sprong early in the second. The only questions I'm aware of when it comes to Sprong revolve around him being a puck hog at times. They're not a deep team in Charlottetown, and the offense does revolve around him. If that's his biggest knock, it's minor. RHS, RW too. Get a very early second rounder and something in the 50s and get two for the price of one. Here's the original quote from Marc Bergevin ... link Radio Canada« Si tu as un choix à la fin de la première ronde (il a le 26e) et que tu peux obtenir deux choix de deuxième ronde, tes chances de succès augmentent . Mais il faut être capable de transiger. » Translated: "If you have a late first rounder, and you can obtain two second rounders, your chances of success improve. But you must be able to swing a trade." It's on this board, other boards and Twitter ... Cheers. |
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Post by Lord Bebop on Jun 24, 2015 19:11:21 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised to see Berg try to switch his pick for 2 second rounders or a second and a third. If there's someone available that another team really wants, it opens the opportunity. I wondered that some time ago, and if he wants to go pure offense he can likely get Sprong early in the second. The only questions I'm aware of when it comes to Sprong revolve around him being a puck hog at times. They're not a deep team in Charlottetown, and the offense does revolve around him. If that's his biggest knock, it's minor. RHS, RW too. Get a very early second rounder and something in the 50s and get two for the price of one. Sprong is intriguing as many scouts say he has the talent to go top 10 yet he is ranked to go botton first round to second round. I'm assuming it's more then just his defensive game keeping him outta the top of the draft. Thinking we are looking for defence or a center... Perhaps a trade for multiple picks would help our depth chart... Starting to look alittle bare.... If I were forced to guess... Most probable outcome is a trade down..should be a fun draft to watch Unless I Scherbak falls like last season  |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 24, 2015 20:01:42 GMT -5
Sprong is intriguing as many scouts say he has the talent to go top 10 yet he is ranked to go botton first round to second round. I'm assuming it's more then just his defensive game keeping him outta the top of the draft. I seem to recall similar concerns about Mike Bossy. Yeah, he can score, but he's soft. (that's what the scouts said about Bossy. They seem to fight the last war) |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 24, 2015 21:46:28 GMT -5
I wondered that some time ago, and if he wants to go pure offense he can likely get Sprong early in the second. The only questions I'm aware of when it comes to Sprong revolve around him being a puck hog at times. They're not a deep team in Charlottetown, and the offense does revolve around him. If that's his biggest knock, it's minor. RHS, RW too. Get a very early second rounder and something in the 50s and get two for the price of one. Sprong is intriguing as many scouts say he has the talent to go top 10 yet he is ranked to go botton first round to second round. I'm assuming it's more then just his defensive game keeping him outta the top of the draft. Thinking we are looking for defence or a center... Perhaps a trade for multiple picks would help our depth chart... Starting to look alittle bare.... If I were forced to guess... Most probable outcome is a trade down..should be a fun draft to watch Unless I Scherbak falls like last season With Sprong, the knock is selfishness (not using teammates) and the ever ambiguous attitude issues. Has many scouts polarized on him. |
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Post by blny on Jun 25, 2015 16:55:22 GMT -5
Sprong is intriguing as many scouts say he has the talent to go top 10 yet he is ranked to go botton first round to second round. I'm assuming it's more then just his defensive game keeping him outta the top of the draft. Thinking we are looking for defence or a center... Perhaps a trade for multiple picks would help our depth chart... Starting to look alittle bare.... If I were forced to guess... Most probable outcome is a trade down..should be a fun draft to watch Unless I Scherbak falls like last season With Sprong, the knock is selfishness (not using teammates) and the ever ambiguous attitude issues. Has many scouts polarized on him. He's a shoot first player with reportedly one of the best releases in the draft. You can suss out a guy's attitude in the interview. Marek has Montreal picking him, and Guryanov going to Tampa at 28. I think Guryanov goes earlier. If he were available when our turn comes up, I'd have a hard time passing on him - even for Sprong. Denis can play either wing, scores goals, skates very well, and has size. www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jeff-mareks-2015-nhl-mock-draft/ |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 25, 2015 17:20:20 GMT -5
I know that the Habs would likely prefer a D or a C, but if a potential top line dynamic winger is available that will be hard to pass up on. The picks from 20 to 25 will be hugely important to see where teams go and who will be left.
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Post by blny on Jun 25, 2015 17:22:17 GMT -5
I know that the Habs would likely prefer a D or a C, but if a potential top line dynamic winger is available that will be hard to pass up on. The picks from 20 to 25 will be hugely important to see where teams go and who will be left. It will definitely impact what Berg does. If his player is gone, I see a trade down scenario. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 25, 2015 18:06:59 GMT -5
An interview with Trevor Timmins Courtesy of RDS ... Timmins also mentioned not to rule out the possibility of the Canadiens moving down ... "multiple seconds, multiple thirds" ... very favourable comments on Jeff Petry ... he also mentions the new pros heading to the AHL Jeremy Gregoire, Mark Macmillan, Zachary Fucale, Brett Lernout, Mike McCarron, Nikita Scherbak ... Cheers. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 26, 2015 9:51:42 GMT -5
I think Guryanov or Svechnikov would be interesting picks, both big (6'2" and 6'3" respectively), skilled guys.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 26, 2015 10:18:13 GMT -5
I know that the Habs would likely prefer a D or a C, but if a potential top line dynamic winger is available that will be hard to pass up on. The picks from 20 to 25 will be hugely important to see where teams go and who will be left. It will definitely impact what Berg does. If his player is gone, I see a trade down scenario. This is the most open I have ever heard the team with regards to the possibility of trading down. |
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Post by blny on Jun 26, 2015 10:21:09 GMT -5
It will definitely impact what Berg does. If his player is gone, I see a trade down scenario. This is the most open I have ever heard the team with regards to the possibility of trading down. Which means they'll snipe it and trade up lol. |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 26, 2015 11:50:29 GMT -5
Don't laugh, that's probably exactly what Berg will do. Pick the least likely action and that'll be him.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 26, 2015 17:36:13 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Timmins has someone in mind... can't wait til 8:30 est to find out.
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