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Post by franko on Jun 26, 2015 14:13:46 GMT -5
More to come
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 26, 2015 14:20:54 GMT -5
Is Boston doing a rebuild? I hear they are after the third pick and Lucic is available as well. Plus they didn't resign Sodenberg. Could be interesting in Bean town if they decide to trade Chara.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jun 26, 2015 14:24:20 GMT -5
Wow. If the return doesn't include either Monahan or Gaudreau then I don't know what CGY has that Boston would want, unless this is a 3-way deal.
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Post by franko on Jun 26, 2015 14:25:04 GMT -5
tsnno specifics yet. sure sounds like they're going into rebuild mode. who is left on their d? I have a suggestion for MB . . . (even if it is within the division).
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Post by franko on Jun 26, 2015 14:26:07 GMT -5
Wow. If the return doesn't include either Monahan or Gaudreau then I don't know what CGY has that Boston would want, unless this is a 3-way deal. and I can't see the Flames giving up either of those guys. |
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Post by PTH on Jun 26, 2015 14:26:38 GMT -5
Holy cow.
I can see Boston needing to let some big-dollar guys go, but letting a young-yet-proven D (with size) go just makes no sense to me.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 26, 2015 14:27:34 GMT -5
Wow, I saw Hamilton as Chara's replacement as far as minutes go. Man, what it does to a team when you don't manage your CAP properly. I wonder if Calgary's giving up Bennett or Monahan?
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Post by seventeen on Jun 26, 2015 14:29:30 GMT -5
Sounds like 15th overall pick plus some other picks. Bruins didn't allow Calgary to talk to Hamilton's agents. So Calgary doesn't know what they're asking (wink, wink, nudge, nudge)
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Post by blny on Jun 26, 2015 14:29:56 GMT -5
A first and two seconds. Sportsnet 360.
Assume it's this year in part or all. Chia has to be fuming. You know he wanted him. Flames D corps is going to be really strong. Hamilton, Gio, Brodie, Wideman ...
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Post by seventeen on Jun 26, 2015 14:32:47 GMT -5
It's great that teams are actually making deals and taking chances. Hear that, Marc?!
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Post by blny on Jun 26, 2015 14:41:24 GMT -5
Picks are all this year.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jun 26, 2015 14:41:30 GMT -5
Hamilton wants a max type deal, but I think the Bruins are short-sighted and definitely just took a step back. I'm not totally sold on Hamilton was an elite player but man that's a cornerstone type player that is hard to give up. Throw in an aging blueline with Chara and Seidenberg and it's going to take some time for the B's to make it back to contention. I would rather pay Hamilton and try to unload one of the older guys.
Wouldn't be surprised if Lucic is dealt as well.
But to not get back ANYTHING in terms of a proven commodity.... it's a tough swallow for Boston fans. A mid-level first plus 2 seconds... chances are better than even that NONE of those picks turn into impact players.
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Post by Skilly on Jun 26, 2015 14:41:48 GMT -5
A first and two seconds. Sportsnet 360. Assume it's this year in part or all. Chia has to be fuming. You know he wanted him. Flames D corps is going to be really strong. Hamilton, Gio, Brodie, Wideman ... Don Sweeney is the Bruins GM. Probably getting his orders from Neely. Chiarelli is probably laughing. Wonder if we didn't sign Petry, would Boston have taken a bunch of pucks from us .... Nahhhh |
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Post by PTH on Jun 26, 2015 14:43:31 GMT -5
More than ever, cap space is an asset.
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Post by blny on Jun 26, 2015 14:43:43 GMT -5
Saw this on Bruins board at HF .... lol
@numerartovertag: *Don Sweeney rips off facemask, reveals MIKE MILBURY underneath*
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Post by blny on Jun 26, 2015 14:44:44 GMT -5
More than ever, cap space is an asset. Bruins moved Seguin, Boychuk, Hamilton etc, cause of cap space, but gave Kelly $3 million per. |
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Post by blny on Jun 26, 2015 14:48:51 GMT -5
James Mirtle reporting that Bruins were offered a higher first rounder - may not have had the 2 seconds.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jun 26, 2015 14:49:26 GMT -5
So the Bruins turned Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton into Loui Erickson, Reilly Smith, a 1st (15th overall) and two 2nd's.
Bad.
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Post by BadCompany on Jun 26, 2015 14:49:55 GMT -5
I think the Bruins are just trying to get the assets to move up to #3. I'm guessing they would then take the defenseman Hanifan, who might be just as good as Hamilton. If Hanifan can step in as a rookie and play reasonably well (like Ekblad) then they just saved themselves some cap space without a huge drop in on-ice caliber.
Big if mind you, but that could be the logic.
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Post by blny on Jun 26, 2015 14:52:40 GMT -5
I think the Bruins are just trying to get the assets to move up to #3. I'm guessing they would then take the defenseman Hanifan, who might be just as good as Hamilton. If Hanifan can step in as a rookie and play reasonably well (like Ekblad) then they just saved themselves some cap space without a huge drop in on-ice caliber. Big if mind you, but that could be the logic. This. Someone mentioned two first and Subban for #3 as a possibility. So two middle firsts and Malcolm for Hanifin. |
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jun 26, 2015 14:56:04 GMT -5
I think the Bruins are just trying to get the assets to move up to #3. I'm guessing they would then take the defenseman Hanifan, who might be just as good as Hamilton. If Hanifan can step in as a rookie and play reasonably well (like Ekblad) then they just saved themselves some cap space without a huge drop in on-ice caliber. Big if mind you, but that could be the logic. Good thought BC. Phoenix is such a mess that they may want to turn the #3 pick into more picks later, but you only do the first deal if you KNOW you have the second deal in place. Otherwise it's a huge risk. |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 26, 2015 15:03:35 GMT -5
I think Sweeney has a better deal than that already. Maloney didn't want to drop further than 10th and the Bruins don't have that high a pick. Personally, I'd rather have Hamilton (given his age) than the two 1sts and Malcolm Subban.
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Post by PTH on Jun 26, 2015 15:04:32 GMT -5
I think the Bruins are just trying to get the assets to move up to #3. I'm guessing they would then take the defenseman Hanifan, who might be just as good as Hamilton. If Hanifan can step in as a rookie and play reasonably well (like Ekblad) then they just saved themselves some cap space without a huge drop in on-ice caliber. Big if mind you, but that could be the logic. Good thought BC. Phoenix is such a mess that they may want to turn the #3 pick into more picks later, but you only do the first deal if you KNOW you have the second deal in place. Otherwise it's a huge risk. I think it's more about how the Bruins don't want to develop into a team with a handful of key guys, they want an all-around team with no one getting too large a chunk of the payroll. It's why they moved Kessel in the first place. |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 26, 2015 15:07:38 GMT -5
I think the Bruins are just trying to get the assets to move up to #3. I'm guessing they would then take the defenseman Hanifan, who might be just as good as Hamilton. If Hanifan can step in as a rookie and play reasonably well (like Ekblad) then they just saved themselves some cap space without a huge drop in on-ice caliber. Big if mind you, but that could be the logic. So Hamilton and your own first rounder for two second rounders and a defenseman you hope will turn out as well as Hamilton. Hamilton's a solid #2 IMO, with potential to be a #1. Hanifan or Provorov may end up there, but it's a lot to go through to save some CAP space. Not to mention the risk that the pick doesn't turn out the way you hope. Is the Bruins front office smart enough to be trying that kind of deal? Good question. |
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Post by Skilly on Jun 26, 2015 15:07:36 GMT -5
Everyone asset involved in the Kessel trade has now been traded out of Boston ...
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Post by franko on Jun 26, 2015 15:15:54 GMT -5
Everyone asset involved in the Kessel trade has now been traded out of Boston ... I started to do the Kessel for . . . but gave up. too much work. guess the Bs are going for a higher draft pick next year. good thing they fired Chia. |
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Post by blny on Jun 26, 2015 15:16:52 GMT -5
To say that HF Bruins fans are jumping ship would be an understatement. Might be the biggest uprising since Paul Revere.
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Post by jkr on Jun 26, 2015 15:20:33 GMT -5
Everyone asset involved in the Kessel trade has now been traded out of Boston ... And Kessel may soon be gone from Toronto. |
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Post by Polarice on Jun 26, 2015 15:24:55 GMT -5
I was never sold on Hamilton....never thought of him as elite, so Boston getting what they got is pretty good.
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Post by Skilly on Jun 26, 2015 15:25:31 GMT -5
Everyone asset involved in the Kessel trade has now been traded out of Boston ... I started to do the Kessel for . . . but gave up. too much work. guess the Bs are going for a higher draft pick next year. good thing they fired Chia. Let me help you out ..... Boston turned Phil Kessel into 2010 first rounder (Tyler Seguin) 2010 second rounder (Jared Knight) 2011 first rounder (Doug Hamilton) Which turned into Seguin for Loui Ericksson, Reilly Smith, Matt Fraser, Joe Morrow Knight for Zach Phillips Hamilton for 2015 first Rounder (?), 2015 second rounder (?), 2015 second rounder (?) Phil Kessel turned into Ericksson Smith Fraser Morrow Phillips A first rounder (2015 TBD) Two second rounders (2015 TBD) |
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