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Post by seventeen on Aug 7, 2015 15:02:01 GMT -5
If you guys weren't Habs fans I'd be questioning your sanity! Blue Jays??? Ugh. We'll see this weekend what's what in the AL East. By the way, I may be unavailable for a few weeks starting Sunday around 4:30 or 5 pm (all depends on certain "things"). If so, don't look for me posting and don't bother me with your snide remarks next week. I won't be reading them. I'll save them up for when you return. I was a huge Expos fan for years. And still curse Loria. That may be one reason I hate Florida teams so much.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 7, 2015 15:36:20 GMT -5
Still a huge Expos fan ... I've got three binders of vintage Expos including a Randy Johnson RC ... followed them right up to the '94 lockout ... within a week of the announcement the Expos moved Kenny Hill, John Wetland (sp?) and Marquis Grissom ... After that it was hard to follow them ... anyone who said anything Jeff Loria didn't like, was moved out Montreal ... Dustin Hermmanson and Filipe Alou just to name two ... BC told me a few whoppers about Loria, but I'm on my phone so I can't get as verbose as I'd like ... friggin' pain in the derriere, man ...
Cheers.
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Post by seventeen on Aug 7, 2015 18:55:34 GMT -5
First inning over and I can see the Yanks have a good stash of horseshoes somewhere in the club house. A home run that might have been caught except for fan interference, ruled a home run for the Yankees. Two bloop singles and then they catch a guy in a rundown and the ball gets caught in Tulo's webbing and he can't get it out to throw it. No damage outside of the home run, but lots of potential for a disaster, despite no clear hits.
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Post by blny on Aug 8, 2015 9:48:56 GMT -5
Gritty effort by Jays. There's no quit in this group. Different than previous years. See what Price can do this afternoon.
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Post by seventeen on Aug 8, 2015 11:46:13 GMT -5
It was indeed a really good game. Both pitchers were outstanding. Girardi was forced into using his best relievers fairly early, and that played a role later on. Gibbons still had some ammo by the 10th (Schultz, Lowe and Osuna) while Girardi had to bring out his second tier group after the 9th. That's tough against a slugging team like TO. McCann's a key player for the Yanks, much like Martin for the Jays. Catchers seem, to me, to be really underrated, kinda like goalies.
Looking forward to another good game today.
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Post by franko on Aug 8, 2015 14:25:10 GMT -5
Looking forward to another good game today. it was a battle for a while, but Nova ran out of gas
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Post by blny on Aug 8, 2015 16:37:39 GMT -5
Smoaked it. I love Colabello's bat, but the boy can't field it ANYWHERE. Smoak is a good enough hitter for their lineup that getting his glove at first is crucial. He's also a right handed catching first baseman, which is important. From here on out, Colabello DH's for me when Encarnacion needs a day off, or pinch hits.
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Post by seventeen on Aug 9, 2015 2:11:24 GMT -5
Yup, Colabello in the field is an adventure waiting to happen. He's gotten some key hits for the team, but I'm not sure if his lack of speed in the outfield and general defensive lacklustreness (my word) didn't offset his batting. I prefer Smoak as well.
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Post by blny on Aug 9, 2015 15:19:42 GMT -5
If you thought you were gonna be able to beat up on Jays pitching still, those days are over. 1 run allowed in 28 innings against the second best scoring team in the AL. Statement made, and delivered.
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Post by seventeen on Aug 9, 2015 20:19:51 GMT -5
Not saying anything to Gogie. Nothing. Take the high road.
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Post by franko on Aug 9, 2015 21:20:49 GMT -5
Not saying anything to Gogie. Nothing. Take the high road. you're such a good guy. I mean why rub a drubbing like that in?
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Post by blny on Aug 10, 2015 0:13:20 GMT -5
No gloating on my part. Just an impressive weekend for the Jays. It's been a very very long time since they've been that clutch. Nothing over yet. Still 1.5 games back, and still upwards of 50 games to play.
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Post by Gogie on Aug 10, 2015 7:17:00 GMT -5
Not saying anything to Gogie. Nothing. Take the high road. Appreciate the restraint, seventeen. Tough weekend for some of us. Despite the drubbing I could never "disappear" from HabsRus for an extended period of time. After all, the focus of this forum is our beloved Habs, right? In any event, in those memorable words uttered by Yogi Berra, it ain't over 'til it's over (and the Yanks are still 3 games ahead in the loss column). Edit: I may live to regret that last sentence.
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Post by franko on Aug 10, 2015 9:58:08 GMT -5
Not saying anything to Gogie. Nothing. Take the high road. Appreciate the restraint, seventeen. Tough weekend for some of us. in those memorable words uttered by Yogi Berra, it ain't over 'til it's over (and the Yanks are still 3 games ahead in the loss column). Edit: I may live to regret that last sentence. hot streaks, cold snaps, ya never know . . . that's why you play the games. makes August interesting, though.
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Post by seventeen on Aug 10, 2015 12:39:20 GMT -5
Not saying anything to Gogie. Nothing. Take the high road. Appreciate the restraint, seventeen. Tough weekend for some of us. Despite the drubbing I could never "disappear" from HabsRus for an extended period of time. After all, the focus of this forum is our beloved Habs, right? In any event, in those memorable words uttered by Yogi Berra, it ain't over 'til it's over (and the Yanks are still 3 games ahead in the loss column). Edit: I may live to regret that last sentence. The Jays certainly have some players at the top of their game. I kept hearing that the Yankees had pitching problems, but from that last series, I couldn't see any. If you discount Smoak's GS home run, the Yanks gave up 2 runs per game over the series. That's pretty good pitching. Their top 6 in the batting order also look pretty good. I don't see why they wouldn't have been favourites to win the division pre-trade deadline. The difference right now is that Anthopolous has had one hell of a trade season. If you go back to the Lind deal, he got Estrada and that wasn't looked on as much of a deal at the time. Then he traded for Donaldson and while Lawrie's had a decent year, he's not an MVP candidate. Why would Beane trade Donaldson? Then the last week of July happened and while AA had to basically strip his farm system, he ended up with Tulowitzki on a long term deal and Hawkins to strengthen the bullpen. The final major piece, Price, put them over the top, I think. Yes he's just a rental, but he's a hell of a rental. The final bits, Revere and Pennington improved the defense and depth. Having Sanchez come back from injury and Schultz's surprise play boosted the bullpen, though I still cross my fingers when Loup and Cecil are out there. Barring any injuries, the Jays have a very strong line-up, and will be a challenge for anyone. They're certainly up there with the Cardinals as WS contenders and I think they've got a stronger line-up than NY right now. That doesn't always guarantee success, but the team seems hungry. The difference in the series this weekend was very slightly better pitching and more power. Lots of games to go yet, but it should be a fun end to the regular season. I sure hope I can feel the same way about the Habs this year as I do about the Jays right now. There's a real expectation that you'll win any game. Not a hope, not a likelihood...almost a certainty and while that may appear arrogant, it's a good feeling to have and one we want to repeat with the Habs.
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Post by franko on Aug 10, 2015 15:52:46 GMT -5
yup, and expectation that they'll win. not a hope, an expectation. gives a bit of a swagger. don't think it's arrogance, but it certainly changes the way you feel as you play.
yup, hope the Habs have it the coming season.
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Post by blny on Aug 10, 2015 16:29:02 GMT -5
Yanks have a combo of young arms and two veteran hitters having resurgent years. The experts didn't expect either.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 10, 2015 18:50:27 GMT -5
Was listening to the game on Sunday while coming home from Sudbury ... it was the Jays' pitching that won the series ... they held the Bronx Bombers to just one run in three games ... Marco Estrada had another strong outing, while each of the bullpen had a strikeout in closing the game ... speaking of closers, 20-year-old, Roberto Osuna (6'2" 230 lbs) had a strong 9th to end the game ... Latroy Hawkins, 42, has been excellent since coming over from Colorado ... I thought they would be battling for a wildcard, but after a sweep in New York, catching the Yankees seems a realistic goal ... just purchased my tickets for Sept 5th/6th against the Orioles ... Sitting a few rows up from the Jays' dugout ...
Cheers.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 10, 2015 20:39:50 GMT -5
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Post by blny on Aug 11, 2015 10:48:30 GMT -5
Dis, I was thinking of heading up for this Friday's home game against the Yanks. Price pitching. Hotel prices, not really a surprise, and the fact that the Jays/resellers up prices for weekend games changed my mind. Fuel, lodging for a couple of nights, food, and the ticket would have pushed $1000.
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Post by franko on Aug 11, 2015 12:47:24 GMT -5
Dis, I was thinking of heading up for this Friday's home game against the Yanks. Price pitching. Hotel prices, not really a surprise, and the fact that the Jays/resellers up prices for weekend games changed my mind. Fuel, lodging for a couple of nights, food, and the ticket would have pushed $1000. StubHub. starting at 60 bucks per. Nosebleeds. Wear a hat for day games.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 11, 2015 12:52:03 GMT -5
Dis, I was thinking of heading up for this Friday's home game against the Yanks. Price pitching. Hotel prices, not really a surprise, and the fact that the Jays/resellers up prices for weekend games changed my mind. Fuel, lodging for a couple of nights, food, and the ticket would have pushed $1000. This is what I'm doing, blny ... I'm driving to Ajax and getting a room at the "Super 8" Hotel (one night for under $100 bucks, maybe less if they honour veteran's or CAA discounts) and taking the go-train into Union Station, which is practically around the corner from the Rogers Centre ... once the game is over I'll be heading over to "Realsports Bar" for some eats, then back on the go-train to Ajax ... the next day will be pretty much the same, though I'll be hightailing it back to Ajax right after the game, then driving home ... that's still going to be around $400/$450 (less if I control what I eat/drink ... (like, where's Harvey's, dude) but, hey, it would probably double if I were to do this with back-to-back Habs games, hotel downtown Montreal, tickets, gas, tall boys aplenty, etc ... Cheers.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 11, 2015 15:58:44 GMT -5
... just might send Drew Hutchison to the bullpen ... never know ...
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 11, 2015 21:22:12 GMT -5
The Jays got a strong performance from Drew Hutchison ... good timing, but the A's lost this game on their second error ... Josh Donaldson and Brett Lawrie non-factors in tonight's game ... Danny Valencia had a double, though ... Jose Bautista homered again and Roberto Osuna (20) with his 10th save of the year ... what a roll ...
Cheers.
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Post by franko on Aug 12, 2015 21:13:13 GMT -5
technically in first place, 10 Ws in a row. Yankees with games in hand.
but first place . . . whodathunkit
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Post by BadCompany on Aug 13, 2015 7:07:25 GMT -5
The 1994 strike that effectively killed the Expos begin August 12th, 1994. Coincidentally enough the Blue Jays moved into first place August 12th, exactly 21 years later.
I'd be excited about this but... the Blue Jays voted to contract the Expos.
Lest we forget.
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Post by jkr on Aug 13, 2015 8:09:23 GMT -5
The 1994 strike that effectively killed the Expos begin August 12th, 1994. Coincidentally enough the Blue Jays moved into first place August 12th, exactly 21 years later. I'd be excited about this but... the Blue Jays voted to contract the Expos. Lest we forget. I didn't realize this until I read Jonah Keri's book - Up, Up and Away. Supporting the Expos would have been a largely symbolic gesture but considering the support that Toronto got from people like John McHale in the early days, that gesture should have been made. That being said, it seems like a lot of people don't know what happened or have decided to move on. When the Jays play their exhibition games in Montreal the fans seem to be cheering for Toronto. And I heard a French language call on TVA from the game in New York when Bautista hit his 10th inning home run. The announcer went nuts. Maybe I should move on too.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 13, 2015 8:46:18 GMT -5
The 1994 strike that effectively killed the Expos begin August 12th, 1994. Coincidentally enough the Blue Jays moved into first place August 12th, exactly 21 years later. I'd be excited about this but... the Blue Jays voted to contract the Expos. Lest we forget. That's very interesting, BC ... the Expos were the victims of a lot of things back then ... I remember you and I talking specifically about Jeff Loria's part in dismantling the Expos, but point-of-no-return really started when the lockout was called ... the Expos lost Kenny Hill, John Wetteland and Marquis Grissom all within the following week ... that was their ace, their best reliever and an all-star CF, all gondi just like that ... I remember the media types all piling on ... Jim Rome, "... get that franchise outta there ... Montreal doesn't deserve a baseball team ...", but like so many other media types, he just pursued one part of the story and not the whole thing ... wouldn't mind seeing the Montreal Royals come back into existance ... but, I'm an Expos original for sure ... wouldn't mind seeing the Expos come back, but I think Loria owns the rights to the name, doesn't he? ... Cheers.
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Post by blny on Aug 13, 2015 9:13:24 GMT -5
Jim Rome, the biggest punk in the media at the time. When I think of him, I think of this.
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Post by jkr on Aug 13, 2015 13:44:08 GMT -5
The 1994 strike that effectively killed the Expos begin August 12th, 1994. Coincidentally enough the Blue Jays moved into first place August 12th, exactly 21 years later. I'd be excited about this but... the Blue Jays voted to contract the Expos. Lest we forget. That's very interesting, BC ... the Expos were the victims of a lot of things back then ... I remember you and I talking specifically about Jeff Loria's part in dismantling the Expos, but point-of-no-return really started when the lockout was called ... the Expos lost Kenny Hill, John Wetteland and Marquis Grissom all within the following week ... that was their ace, their best reliever and an all-star CF, all gondi just like that ... I remember the media types all piling on ... Jim Rome, "... get that franchise outta there ... Montreal doesn't deserve a baseball team ...", but like so many other media types, he just pursued one part of the story and not the whole thing ... wouldn't mind seeing the Montreal Royals come back into existance ... but, I'm an Expos original for sure ... wouldn't mind seeing the Expos come back, but I think Loria owns the rights to the name, doesn't he? ... Cheers. The only media person I can think of that will give you a fair & balanced report of what went on with the Expos is Stephen Brunt.
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