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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 19, 2015 9:36:55 GMT -5
For the Canadian members of our community ... going to be a tough one ... had questions for each of the candidates and the only one to get back to me was the Libertarian ... guess the others felt they had enough votes ... good luck today ...
Cheers.
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Post by blny on Oct 19, 2015 10:23:46 GMT -5
As only one of 2 bridges was open, causing the commute to be 2-3 hours, so I turned around and voted first thing. First to vote in my riding.
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Post by jkr on Oct 19, 2015 11:56:51 GMT -5
Voted at the advance poll on the 1st day it opened. Took then a while to find my name but overall, it only took about 10 minutes. I had my mind made up so there was no point waiting.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 19, 2015 12:19:17 GMT -5
The Libertarian candidate in my riding is a university student ... he was the only one of the candidates to answer my emails ... not a hard choice now ...
Cheers.
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Post by blny on Oct 19, 2015 13:17:25 GMT -5
I was in and out in 5. I'll be interested to see what the overall voter turnout is. Last time around was one of the lowest ever, if not the lowest.
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Post by franko on Oct 19, 2015 13:31:11 GMT -5
I think it will be higher this year. First, the anti-Harper vote is strong. And second, the anti-Harper vote is strong. A lot more push for people to vote this time, too. Social media, and all that. Guess we'll see, though. May be down because small c conservatives are sick of Harper but can't see themselves voting for anyone else. They'll be kicking themselves, though, if Trudeau wins a majority.
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Post by franko on Oct 19, 2015 13:32:39 GMT -5
On another matter, heard someone suggest that Trudeau is "Obama Lite": no substance, no policy, but change sounds good to people.
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Post by Cranky on Oct 19, 2015 13:36:48 GMT -5
I'm voting for communist. They've provided no end to economic destruction to Greece while being clowns....and I think we need that in Canada.
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Post by Cranky on Oct 19, 2015 13:40:12 GMT -5
On another matter, heard someone suggest that Trudeau is "Obama Lite": no substance, no policy, but change sounds good to people. We need to spend more on things that makes us feel better. That evil Harper guy took all the fun out of spending. Besides, nobody has to pay for them! |
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Post by seventeen on Oct 19, 2015 14:07:08 GMT -5
I voted at the advance polls as well. It seemed disorganized and took about 15 minutes overall. Not bad, really. Three polling booths and two were busy, the other dead because it was serving a certain list of people, none of whom were there at that time. I also think more and more people are voting at the advance polls to avoid the normally busier election day. One can't judge turnout by how many attend the advance polls.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 19, 2015 14:12:13 GMT -5
On another matter, heard someone suggest that Trudeau is "Obama Lite": no substance, no policy, but change sounds good to people. I'm not convinced Trudeau has no policy. Two pretty clear ones that they've promoted that I think are good ideas are legalizing pot and spending on infrastructure. The latter is the most cost effective way to boost the economy (especially with the low bond rates today) and taxes on the former will probably pay for the latter. The bigger question with all politicians is whether or not they follow through on their promises. |
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Post by Cranky on Oct 19, 2015 14:29:35 GMT -5
I voted at the advance polls as well. It seemed disorganized and took about 15 minutes overall. Not bad, really. Three polling booths and two were busy, the other dead because it was serving a certain list of people, none of whom were there at that time. I also think more and more people are voting at the advance polls to avoid the normally busier election day. One can't judge turnout by how many attend the advance polls. Five minutes in and out total. |
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Post by blny on Oct 19, 2015 14:41:39 GMT -5
I'm with you 17. He was coy with his platform, but momentum really turned for him when they started airing the ad with him on the escalator. Genius ad.
As for Obama, he'll have a lot fewer obstacles to pushing through policy.
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Post by Cranky on Oct 19, 2015 14:42:01 GMT -5
On another matter, heard someone suggest that Trudeau is "Obama Lite": no substance, no policy, but change sounds good to people. I'm not convinced Trudeau has no policy. Two pretty clear ones that they've promoted that I think are good ideas are legalizing pot and spending on infrastructure. The latter is the most cost effective way to boost the economy (especially with the low bond rates today) and taxes on the former will probably pay for the latter. The bigger question with all politicians is whether or not they follow through on their promises. Infrustructure spending? Really? So when exactly did roads in Head-Smashed-In Buffalo Jump, AB. become a national spending agenda issue? How about downtown Toronto? How much of YOUR tax dollars do you want to give directly to Toronto to spend on their electricity grid? Because they hardly bother to do so, while whinning about it. On the other hand, one city over, I'm certainly spending too much on all the local utilities who never stop spending on upgrades. I can use some relief, if you don't mind. I alwsys thought that infrustructure spending was the responsibility of those using said infrustructure. You use it, you pay. Not someone elses 2,000 kilometers and 5 provinces away. Wait! What am I thinking? What better way to buy local votes then with national tax dollars. My bad. |
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Post by BadCompany on Oct 19, 2015 14:46:07 GMT -5
Five minutes in and out total. Sounds like my last date!  |
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Post by Cranky on Oct 19, 2015 14:50:30 GMT -5
Five minutes in and out total. Sounds like my last date! Bait...meet fish!  |
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Post by seventeen on Oct 19, 2015 15:14:52 GMT -5
I'm not convinced Trudeau has no policy. Two pretty clear ones that they've promoted that I think are good ideas are legalizing pot and spending on infrastructure. The latter is the most cost effective way to boost the economy (especially with the low bond rates today) and taxes on the former will probably pay for the latter. The bigger question with all politicians is whether or not they follow through on their promises. Infrustructure spending? Really? So when exactly did roads in Head-Smashed-In Buffalo Jump, AB. become a national spending agenda issue? How about downtown Toronto? How much of YOUR tax dollars do you want to give directly to Toronto to spend on their electricity grid? Because they hardly bother to do so, while whinning about it. On the other hand, one city over, I'm certainly spending too much on all the local utilities who never stop spending on upgrades. I can use some relief, if you don't mind. I alwsys thought that infrustructure spending was the responsibility of those using said infrustructure. You use it, you pay. Not someone elses 2,000 kilometers and 5 provinces away. Wait! What am I thinking? What better way to buy local votes then with national tax dollars. My bad. I was thinking of sewer pipes (my mind's always in the gutter). I understand a number of bridges in Montreal are failing and I know there's at least one in New Westminster that definitely needs replacing. We used to do that out of tax dollars and it never seemed to hurt us. These things need replacing. I understand your philosophy of user pay, but some things belong to everyone IMO. I might not like paying for a bridge I don't use, but if I'm a parent, I appreciate some people who don't have children, helping to pay for schools. I'm rarely if ever, on a boat in the ocean, so why should I want to pay for Coast Guard? I believe it tends to even out in the end. The key point is getting value for the money (which I understand is a problem in Montreal especially. Arpon Basu complains bitterly about the potholes in the city. One outside his house had a pylon beside it for months, but no repair). Anyway, that's important to me, not wasting our tax $, but we need some services and they have to be paid for. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Oct 19, 2015 15:56:01 GMT -5
I voted today at noon. No lineups for me. I was in the booth for a good minute deciding on who to vote for. Never have I been conflicted with who to vote for. The guy I wanted, would not win. There was one person I will never vote for. The other two are going up against the one I wouldn't vote for. So in the end it came down to two. I went with the incumbent for the region in hopes that the rest of the people do the same.
I'm with Cranky though. You shouldn't spend what you don't have, but that option wasn't really available in my area, hence I went with the lesser evil of the two.
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Post by Cranky on Oct 19, 2015 16:51:53 GMT -5
Infrustructure spending? Really? So when exactly did roads in Head-Smashed-In Buffalo Jump, AB. become a national spending agenda issue? How about downtown Toronto? How much of YOUR tax dollars do you want to give directly to Toronto to spend on their electricity grid? Because they hardly bother to do so, while whinning about it. On the other hand, one city over, I'm certainly spending too much on all the local utilities who never stop spending on upgrades. I can use some relief, if you don't mind. I alwsys thought that infrustructure spending was the responsibility of those using said infrustructure. You use it, you pay. Not someone elses 2,000 kilometers and 5 provinces away. Wait! What am I thinking? What better way to buy local votes then with national tax dollars. My bad. I was thinking of sewer pipes (my mind's always in the gutter). I understand a number of bridges in Montreal are failing and I know there's at least one in New Westminster that definitely needs replacing. We used to do that out of tax dollars and it never seemed to hurt us. These things need replacing. I understand your philosophy of user pay, but some things belong to everyone IMO. I might not like paying for a bridge I don't use, but if I'm a parent, I appreciate some people who don't have children, helping to pay for schools. I'm rarely if ever, on a boat in the ocean, so why should I want to pay for Coast Guard? I believe it tends to even out in the end. The key point is getting value for the money (which I understand is a problem in Montreal especially. Arpon Basu complains bitterly about the potholes in the city. One outside his house had a pylon beside it for months, but no repair). Anyway, that's important to me, not wasting our tax $, but we need some services and they have to be paid for. The coast gaurd is not a direct use cost. Just like the military. It's a national srrvice. Why exactly should I pay for a bridge in Montreal? They certainly take enough tolls and I certainly do not use it. On the other hand, it's going to cost me another several thousand dollars for a brand spanking new tax on buildings for storm drains. SEVERAL THOUSAND a year. Directly. From my pocket. New tax and I'm going to pay for it, like it or not. Why can't the bridge users pay for THEIR bridge? Or the cities that adjoin it? Or the province it's in? Certainly it's not the lack of ability to pay, but rather, a desire to do so. More taxes for yhe. Boohoo. So someone 500 kilometers away should pay it? Or 5000 kilometers away? Sorry, but other then isolated impoverished communities, infrustructure is a user pay item. If they don't want to pay, not my problem. But like I said, it's a wonderful opportunity for local and federal politicians to buy local votes. Heck, if Trudeau came to my house and said that you will pay for my storm drain tax, I'd vote for him too.....maybe. After all, why should I pay it if I can vote for someone else to do so. Fair? Right? Besides, born Greek, I have a God/Allah/SpaghettiMonster genetic right to borrow and spend........and spend.....and spend. It's working great for Greece. |
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Post by Cranky on Oct 19, 2015 17:01:36 GMT -5
I voted today at noon. No lineups for me. I was in the booth for a good minute deciding on who to vote for. Never have I been conflicted with who to vote for. The guy I wanted, would not win. There was one person I will never vote for. The other two are going up against the one I wouldn't vote for. So in the end it came down to two. I went with the incumbent for the region in hopes that the rest of the people do the same. I'm with Cranky though. You shouldn't spend what you don't have, but that option wasn't really available in my area, hence I went with the lesser evil of the two. I call myself "right winger" but in reality, it's based on economic conservative principle. Certainly "left" on social issues. For someone born dirt poor, I know nothing else but personal responsibility, hard work, living within ones means. So anything that remotely speaks as spending by borrowing or taxing others bothers me. A lot. I have seen it on a grand scale in Greece and now it's total economic ruins. I'm seeing it a smaller but certainly same path by Ontario Liberals....and now what? On a Federal level? Because "free money" buys votes? I would never vote for anyone who advocates it. Period. And I don't care what political stripe they are. |
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Post by blny on Oct 19, 2015 17:07:19 GMT -5
Five minutes in and out total. Sounds like my last date! Not sure that's one to be proud of lol.  |
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Post by franko on Oct 19, 2015 17:09:38 GMT -5
On another matter, heard someone suggest that Trudeau is "Obama Lite": no substance, no policy, but change sounds good to people. I'm not convinced Trudeau has no policy. Two pretty clear ones that they've promoted that I think are good ideas are legalizing pot and spending on infrastructure. The latter is the most cost effective way to boost the economy (especially with the low bond rates today) and taxes on the former will probably pay for the latter. The bigger question with all politicians is whether or not they follow through on their promises. funny how Trudeau was on the Conservatives about the deficit and was going to balance the budget until he needed to differentiate himself from the NDP and embraced deficit spending for three years. |
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Post by blny on Oct 19, 2015 17:20:26 GMT -5
Considering where no spending has gotten us, I'm prepared for another approach - if he wins. Spending money on projects that hire people and put people to work is a good thing. Just has to be done right.
There's swearing here, so be ready. But, it speaks volumes imo.
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Post by franko on Oct 19, 2015 17:24:29 GMT -5
momentum really turned for him when they started airing the ad with him on the escalator. Genius ad. truly was. and targeting the wonderful middle class, whoever they are. funny thing . . . I don't make enough to receive his promised tax cuts (the ones that HA is going to pay for ). I miss out on all of the boutique tax credits that Harper has promised. I'm just a sucker trying to get by . . . (woe is me). I greatly fear Wynne's influence on JT. it was all CPP . . . conveniently ignoring OAS and GIS. and with Wynne, it was only those who didn't have "pensions" that would pay for her infrastructure spending the pension plan . . . so government workers and a lot of union members would have been excluded, while I would lose that grand from my salary and my employer would have to pony up a grand, which would mean that the raise that I might have received next year is gone because the money went for said infrastructure spending pension -- which I won't get because I'm too close to retirement (if I can afford to retire). 40 years. 40 years for it to be self-funding. although how can it be self funding when it isn't invested for pensions? and half of it goes for bureaucratic costs. but I digress. Wynne . . JT . . . and the rest of us suckers. but we'll see. if there is indeed a Liberal minority JT will have lots of time and space to do what he wants while two leadership races take place. |
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Post by franko on Oct 19, 2015 17:25:26 GMT -5
Sounds like my last date! Not sure that's one to be proud of lol. guess it's OK if he had another one following |
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Post by franko on Oct 19, 2015 17:26:15 GMT -5
oops, forgot his other revenue stream . . . carbon tax of some sort.
ya, I'm not a fan.
of any of them, really.
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Post by blny on Oct 19, 2015 18:13:31 GMT -5
Global saying only 300 seats in hall for PC-booked banquet space (presumably in Calgary). ALso saying that there's a lot of finger pointing going on within the party. Many being pointed at Harper directly for the tactics and campaign strategy. Harper is reported resigned to defeat.
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Post by franko on Oct 19, 2015 18:30:34 GMT -5
I'd say he was about a week ago.
his congratulation and resignation speech is ready and practiced. Lauren is happy to leave Ottawa. Harper is ready to find a real job (I'm waiting for the "back to the mail room where he belongs" taunts).
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Post by franko on Oct 19, 2015 19:11:51 GMT -5
orange crush meet red wave
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Post by Tankdriver on Oct 19, 2015 19:21:24 GMT -5
If Quebec goes red, we're talking majority I think.
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