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Stamkos
May 12, 2016 12:50:17 GMT -5
Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 12, 2016 12:50:17 GMT -5
Went to the driving range with my "friends". We were talking about the playoffs and the Leafs and Habs etc and one of them mentioned that he heard from one of the camps that Stamkos is not interested in going to Toronto. However, wants to stay in the East. He figured New York or Montreal probably has the best shot at signing him "if" he decides to go. Well, you never know, Reap ... it could very well be just that ... some of our long-in-the-tooth veterans might remember this one ... I first learned of Doug Gilmour signing with the Habs from an older guy in the pub I was at back in the day ... his nickname was " Smokey" and he knew the Gilmour family, so I didn't have anything to lose by burying it in a post ... sure enough, a few weeks later Gilmour signs with Montreal ... so, could very well be that what you were told does have some legs ... are the Habs in the mix ... don't know, but it might be a tight fit financially for them with both the Pacioretty and Price contracts coming due over the next few years ... Cheers. |
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Stamkos
May 12, 2016 12:54:33 GMT -5
Post by GNick99 on May 12, 2016 12:54:33 GMT -5
Went to the driving range with my "friends". We were talking about the playoffs and the Leafs and Habs etc and one of them mentioned that he heard from one of the camps that Stamkos is not interested in going to Toronto. However, wants to stay in the East. He figured New York or Montreal probably has the best shot at signing him "if" he decides to go. That's a big deal for Bergs, he's usually conservative. |
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Stamkos
May 12, 2016 13:19:32 GMT -5
Post by blny on May 12, 2016 13:19:32 GMT -5
Went to the driving range with my "friends". We were talking about the playoffs and the Leafs and Habs etc and one of them mentioned that he heard from one of the camps that Stamkos is not interested in going to Toronto. However, wants to stay in the East. He figured New York or Montreal probably has the best shot at signing him "if" he decides to go. That's a big deal for Bergs, he's usually conservative. He'll have to be aggressive to make room, and aggressive to sign him. It will require flash that he usually reserves for his suits.  |
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Stamkos
May 12, 2016 13:49:02 GMT -5
Post by Polarice on May 12, 2016 13:49:02 GMT -5
The team that jumps out to me as having the space, the cash, and the weather is Carolina. It's not an enticing lineup though. I doubt they would be on his radar, from what I've been told he wants to go to a contender....I wouldn't be surprised to see Detroit take a run at him. |
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Stamkos
May 12, 2016 13:52:10 GMT -5
Post by Polarice on May 12, 2016 13:52:10 GMT -5
Went to the driving range with my "friends". We were talking about the playoffs and the Leafs and Habs etc and one of them mentioned that he heard from one of the camps that Stamkos is not interested in going to Toronto. However, wants to stay in the East. He figured New York or Montreal probably has the best shot at signing him "if" he decides to go. Well, you never know, Reap ... it could very well be just that ... some of our long-in-the-tooth veterans might remember this one ... I first learned of Doug Gilmour signing with the Habs from an older guy in the pub I was at back in the day ... his nickname was " Smokey" and he knew the Gilmour family, so I didn't have anything to lose by burying it in a post ... sure enough, a few weeks later Gilmour signs with Montreal ... so, could very well be that what you were told does have some legs ... are the Habs in the mix ... don't know, but it might be a tight fit financially for them with both the Pacioretty and Price contracts coming due over the next few years ... Cheers. No smoke yet Dis, no real info on him even wanting to come to Montreal, just that he knew where he didn't want to go. So they were looking at possible fits. |
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Stamkos
May 12, 2016 18:03:26 GMT -5
Post by blny on May 12, 2016 18:03:26 GMT -5
The team that jumps out to me as having the space, the cash, and the weather is Carolina. It's not an enticing lineup though. I doubt they would be on his radar, from what I've been told he wants to go to a contender....I wouldn't be surprised to see Detroit take a run at him. I wouldn't think the Wings would entice either. Their best are way past expiration. The rest are only average at best. |
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Stamkos
May 13, 2016 5:57:33 GMT -5
Post by GNick99 on May 13, 2016 5:57:33 GMT -5
That's a big deal for Bergs, he's usually conservative. He'll have to be aggressive to make room, and aggressive to sign him. It will require flash that he usually reserves for his suits. Stamkos is a big move where Bergs is generally low key. He usually keeps improving what he has. I think Bergs may add veteran goalie as knee injury can be a wildcard in hockey. Maybe take a run at secondary scoring...like a Mike Hoffman. If he signs Stamkos he needs to trade 2 or 3 other players to make salary room. That's a lot of turn over |
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Stamkos
May 13, 2016 6:50:53 GMT -5
Post by blny on May 13, 2016 6:50:53 GMT -5
He'll have to be aggressive to make room, and aggressive to sign him. It will require flash that he usually reserves for his suits. Stamkos is a big move where Bergs is generally low key. He usually keeps improving what he has. I think Bergs may add veteran goalie as knee injury can be a wildcard in hockey. Maybe take a run at secondary scoring...like a Mike Hoffman. If he signs Stamkos he needs to trade 2 or 3 other players to make salary room. That's a lot of turn over While I understand the desire to have a more secure back up situation, the cost is somewhat prohibitive. The options that would make the most sense are likely to be too expensive. Lindgren and Fucale will be in St John's. Condon is signed. I think we're locked in there. Hoffman is an interesting piece, but he's listed as a center. He's an RFA you could throw an offer sheet at, but the issue of where he slots in comes up. Does he play the wing effectively? I don't know. |
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Stamkos
May 13, 2016 7:38:39 GMT -5
Post by Polarice on May 13, 2016 7:38:39 GMT -5
Stamkos is a big move where Bergs is generally low key. He usually keeps improving what he has. I think Bergs may add veteran goalie as knee injury can be a wildcard in hockey. Maybe take a run at secondary scoring...like a Mike Hoffman. If he signs Stamkos he needs to trade 2 or 3 other players to make salary room. That's a lot of turn over While I understand the desire to have a more secure back up situation, the cost is somewhat prohibitive. The options that would make the most sense are likely to be too expensive. Lindgren and Fucale will be in St John's. Condon is signed. I think we're locked in there. Hoffman is an interesting piece, but he's listed as a center. He's an RFA you could throw an offer sheet at, but the issue of where he slots in comes up. Does he play the wing effectively? I don't know. All we have is secondary scoring....we need that elite forward to push us over the hump. |
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Stamkos
May 15, 2016 13:45:12 GMT -5
Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 15, 2016 13:45:12 GMT -5
Stamkos is a big move where Bergs is generally low key. He usually keeps improving what he has. I think Bergs may add veteran goalie as knee injury can be a wildcard in hockey. Maybe take a run at secondary scoring...like a Mike Hoffman. If he signs Stamkos he needs to trade 2 or 3 other players to make salary room. That's a lot of turn over While I understand the desire to have a more secure back up situation, the cost is somewhat prohibitive. The options that would make the most sense are likely to be too expensive. Lindgren and Fucale will be in St John's. Condon is signed. I think we're locked in there. I'm hoping Lindgren pushes Fucale to get better ... Lindgren, himself, had a very impressive debut ... Not sure what the settle-out-of-court value would be for a RFA like Hoffman ... I found a list of compensation, but I'm not sure I'm reading it right ... if the compensation is only a 2nd-round pick for a player making $2 million (2015), I'd be surprised if he didn't receive any offers ... also, what is the average salary for a 29-goal player (other than piecing it together, is there a site that details stuff like this) ... Cheers. |
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Stamkos
May 15, 2016 18:14:49 GMT -5
Post by blny on May 15, 2016 18:14:49 GMT -5
Not sure what the settle-out-of-court value would be for a RFA like Hoffman ... I found a list of compensation, but I'm not sure I'm reading it right ... if the compensation is only a 2nd-round pick for a player making $2 million (2015), I'd be surprised if he didn't receive any offers ... also, what is the average salary for a 29-goal player (other than piecing it together, is there a site that details stuff like this) ... Cheers. Simply put, the offer would have to be in range of $3.6-$5.5 million. NHL rules for compensations, if the Sens declined to match, would be a first and third round pick. |
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Stamkos
May 15, 2016 18:23:32 GMT -5
Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 15, 2016 18:23:32 GMT -5
Not sure what the settle-out-of-court value would be for a RFA like Hoffman ... I found a list of compensation, but I'm not sure I'm reading it right ... if the compensation is only a 2nd-round pick for a player making $2 million (2015), I'd be surprised if he didn't receive any offers ... also, what is the average salary for a 29-goal player (other than piecing it together, is there a site that details stuff like this) ... Cheers. Simply put, the offer would have to be in range of $3.6-$5.5 million. NHL rules for compensations, if the Sens declined to match, would be a first and third round pick. This is better, danke ... not sure I'd make an offer to Mike Hoffman given the price ... the Senators just got harder to beat last week ... giving Pierre Dorion another 1st and 3rd would help him out immensely ... Cheers, man. |
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Stamkos
May 15, 2016 19:15:56 GMT -5
Post by folatre on May 15, 2016 19:15:56 GMT -5
Good value for less than $3.6 million USD per (Senators would match) and the picks compensation issue makes it too risky treading into the territory above.
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Stamkos
May 18, 2016 15:31:42 GMT -5
Post by blny on May 18, 2016 15:31:42 GMT -5
Where Stamkos goes, it likely won't be Toronto. Babcock recently said that "you don't add big pieces when you are growing."
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Stamkos
Jun 27, 2016 15:13:23 GMT -5
Post by Polarice on Jun 27, 2016 15:13:23 GMT -5
It's official, sportsnet is reporting that the Habs are going all in on Stamkos!
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Stamkos
Jun 27, 2016 15:51:31 GMT -5
Post by blny on Jun 27, 2016 15:51:31 GMT -5
It's official, sportsnet is reporting that the Habs are going all in on Stamkos! Pacioretty-Galchenyuk-Gallagher Lehkonen?-Stamkos-Shaw Carr-Plekanec-Andrighetto Byron-Mitchell-Flynn Markov-Subban Emelin-Petry Beaulieu-Pateryn Barberio 4.5-2.8-3.75 3.5(including bonuses)-10(?)-4 1-6-.65 1.167-1.2-.950 5.75-9 4.1-5.5 1-.8 .75 7.075 goalies -------------------------------- With Lehkonen's bonuses included, to payroll is $73.492 million. That's not gonna fly. Gotta get a contract off the books somewhere. Whether it's finding a taker for Plekanec before the ntc kicks in, or Emelin. Dallas is desperate. Sell him off for picks. Either move gets you under the cap. It also means plenty of room to extend Galchenyuk and potentially address a Markov replacement. If Pleks stays, his deal is up before you have to renew Pacioretty. |
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Stamkos
Jun 27, 2016 17:27:11 GMT -5
Post by Skilly on Jun 27, 2016 17:27:11 GMT -5
It's official, sportsnet is reporting that the Habs are going all in on Stamkos! Just to be clear ... All in is 7 yrs and 11 million per year Sometimes I think Sportsnet and TSN say things like this so the Habs do not get a player. It would be dumb as rocks for someone in Montreal to leak this now, it drives up the price and could conceivably be tampering. Stamkos camp could be leaking it too I guess to drive the price up. We will see if Yzerman trades his rights prior to Friday |
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Stamkos
Jun 27, 2016 17:42:35 GMT -5
Post by Skilly on Jun 27, 2016 17:42:35 GMT -5
The Sportsnet article says Buffalo is likely to offer 7yrs at 12 million a year. All Montreal has to offer, is they are Stamkos' best chance to win. But maybe he wants to build a winner with Toronto and not win now ...
I don't agree with the article that Montreal has to shed salary prior to Friday to sign Stamkos. They got all summer to get under the cap. But I guess other teams would have us under the gun if they do that ...
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Stamkos
Jun 27, 2016 17:56:04 GMT -5
Post by GNick99 on Jun 27, 2016 17:56:04 GMT -5
The Sportsnet article says Buffalo is likely to offer 7yrs at 12 million a year. All Montreal has to offer, is they are Stamkos' best chance to win. But maybe he wants to build a winner with Toronto and not win now ... I don't agree with the article that Montreal has to shed salary prior to Friday to sign Stamkos. They got all summer to get under the cap. But I guess other teams would have us under the gun if they do that ... 12m too much for Stamkos |
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Stamkos
Jun 27, 2016 20:39:37 GMT -5
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Post by drkcloud on Jun 27, 2016 20:39:37 GMT -5
My crystal ball guess is Detroit. Not Montreal
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Stamkos
Jun 27, 2016 20:42:00 GMT -5
Post by blny on Jun 27, 2016 20:42:00 GMT -5
Pegula in Buffalo will offer the largest sum of cash. It's a matter of whether SS wants to win, where he thinks he stands the best chance, versus the money. I still think he wants to win more, but if the Sabres come to the table with a 7 year $84 million deal it will be hard to pass up.
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Stamkos
Jun 27, 2016 20:49:41 GMT -5
Post by jkr on Jun 27, 2016 20:49:41 GMT -5
Pegula in Buffalo will offer the largest sum of cash. It's a matter of whether SS wants to win, where he thinks he stands the best chance, versus the money. I still think he wants to win more, but if the Sabres come to the table with a 7 year $84 million deal it will be hard to pass up. Last year Murray missed out on Babcock & McDavid. I think he will go hard after Stamkos with the backing of Pegula. They have some nice talent - Eichel, Reinhart, O'Reilley and a good coach. They may not be that far away from the playoffs. |
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Stamkos
Jun 28, 2016 1:01:02 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Jun 28, 2016 1:01:02 GMT -5
I hope if we don't get Stamkos that he signs with Detroit, a team that doesn't have enough, even with Stamkos, to win the Cup. If he truly wants to win, Stamkos' best chance is with Montreal or Tampa. Toronto and Buffalo aren't there yet. Montreal's weakness is the coach but Muller will help out there. Most other clubs won't have the Cap space.
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Stamkos
Jun 28, 2016 6:23:51 GMT -5
Post by Polarice on Jun 28, 2016 6:23:51 GMT -5
We have lots of cap room and can move players as well, to me it don't matter if we sign him for $11 or $12 million if he helps us get a cup.
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Stamkos
Jun 28, 2016 11:29:08 GMT -5
Post by Polarice on Jun 28, 2016 11:29:08 GMT -5
Been hearing that whoever signs Stamkos it could be a sign and trade type deal, that way a team could shed some salary by trading a player to Tampa, and tampa doesn't lose him for nothing.
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Stamkos
Jun 28, 2016 13:08:32 GMT -5
Post by jkr on Jun 28, 2016 13:08:32 GMT -5
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Stamkos
Jun 28, 2016 13:21:13 GMT -5
Post by blny on Jun 28, 2016 13:21:13 GMT -5
Desharnais and Emelin. peas and carrots lol.
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Stamkos
Jun 28, 2016 13:28:20 GMT -5
Post by jkr on Jun 28, 2016 13:28:20 GMT -5
Desharnais and Emelin. peas and carrots lol. A couple of weeks into the season Yzerman will be wishing he gave him away.  |
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Stamkos
Jun 28, 2016 13:42:00 GMT -5
Post by blny on Jun 28, 2016 13:42:00 GMT -5
Desharnais and Emelin. peas and carrots lol. A couple of weeks into the season Yzerman will be wishing he gave him away. They don't have room for them anyway.  |
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Stamkos
Jun 28, 2016 16:16:13 GMT -5
Post by jkr on Jun 28, 2016 16:16:13 GMT -5
Anyone here McCown on the FAN590 this afternoon? He was talking about Stamkos & related a conversation he had with a source.
The person he spoke with said he felt the Leafs had the inside track because of some marketing contract ( value around 3.5 mill) that they were going to offer. I assume that's in addition to the regular deal. This contract has been vetted by the NHL and the NHLPA apparently. The frustrating thing about the segment was McCown. He had no details & could not offer any more info.
If it's just a marketing deal couldn't any team offer the same thing? And doesn't this go against the Leafs' plan? First trading a 1st and a 2nd for Andersen & now this.
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