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Post by Cranky on Mar 3, 2016 17:35:02 GMT -5
Talked to my US friends earlier on today. Really depressed. They want no part of the clowns America, nor Clintons. What they really want is their version of Harper. Something that at one point, so did the vting plurality of Canadians.
Soooo evil.....
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 3, 2016 20:09:02 GMT -5
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Post by BadCompany on Mar 4, 2016 7:44:57 GMT -5
It's not that I dislike him, HA, but I haven't heard his name nearly as often as I have Hitlery Clinton or Donald-lacking-Trump ... heck, I've heard more of Bernie Saunders than I have of Rubio ... you sure he's got enough money to win ... just askin' ... Cheers. Billions. Democracy is dead, welcome to big money, special interests and manufactured outrage. I'm afraid you are right. The Supreme Court decision to eliminate campaign funding restrictions was perhaps the biggest mistake in the history of democracy, if you ask me. Perhaps it's death-knell. You cannot have a political system that requires that special interests pump billions of dollars into it. Politicians become too tied to their highest donor. Even if you have a President who is "above it" (and I don't see how that is possible) every Congressman and Senator that votes on his or her initiatives was elected using somebody else's money. And thus "owe" that money their loyalty. Perhaps they can betray their donors and vote their conscience... but they can only do it for one term before that money picks somebody a little more loyal. And this says nothing about the masses who are bombarded with ads; eventually the more you see things, the more you come to believe them. Even if they aren't true, because how the heck do you find truth now?? You may see one commercial that says one thing, but if you see 200 that say the exact opposite, well who you going to believe? And the sad thing is, there is no coming back from this. Because even if you recognize the need to limit spending any initiative to do just that will be swamped with special-interest money that has very selfish reasons for opposing it. The game is now rigged. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 4, 2016 9:08:28 GMT -5
And this says nothing about the masses who are bombarded with ads; eventually the more you see things, the more you come to believe them. Even if they aren't true, because how the heck do you find truth now?? You may see one commercial that says one thing, but if you see 200 that say the exact opposite, well who you going to believe? Conditioning of the masses through advertising is nothing new, but it's been taken to new levels over the years ... I look at our last federal election here at home and the Liberals took full advantage of that ... the Grits probably ran the best campaign of all the partys ... content was mostly positive throughout and he always had a rebuttal for Harper's mud-slinging ... but I found their timing to be more effective ... we saw more and more Liberal campaign ads the closer we got to the election, so much so that I remember saying to Mrs Dis that we saw more of Justin Trudeau on the tube in the last two weeks of the election than we had at any other time in the election ... he dominated prime time TV and that's what I remember the most from that election run ... didn't stop me from voting for the local Libertarian though (even though the kid was nothing more than a plug filler for the party in Kingston) ... I didn't like Harper's Americanization of Canadian politics and I couldn't bring myself to vote for a rock star ... the NDP would have gotten my vote under Jack Layton, but ... BC, I apologize for sounding like a broken record but it gives me hope when I look at someone like Ruth Ellen Brosseau ... her office was the result of a protest vote, sure, but she's proof-positive that ordinary citizens can make a difference if given the chance ... it was well worth the risk for the people of Berthier—Maskinongé, so much so that they re-elected her a second time around ... This is why I asked HA if Rubio had the money to run ... it's not about merit any longer ... as an aside, I truly do feel bad for our American brethren ... we're only talking about the GOP nomination here on our discussion blog, but it would be interesting to know what people think of this process outside of the US ... Cheers. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 4, 2016 10:47:58 GMT -5
... and the world is seeing this ... I don't know who Tim Mak (the writer) is, but I like the opinion ... edit: contains sexual references The Debate That Made America DumberLittle Marco. Lyin’ Ted. Yoga. And, of course, the frontrunner’s manhood.
On Thursday, an already insane GOP primary devolved into insult-driven nonsense.DETROIT — Thursday’s Republican presidential debate made us all dumber. It was a disgrace. As people wake up in capitals around the world Friday morning, in London and Addis Ababa and Riyadh and Beijing and Seoul, newscasters will be forced to find a way to discuss, in their local euphemisms, Donald Trump’s d*ck size. The exchanges on the stage at the Fox Theater in Motown centered around erstwhile reality television star Donald Trump, who found, as usual, a way to be even more outrageous than he has been in previous debates. Sen. Marco Rubio—a 44-year-old U.S. senator! A grown man! With children!—had made fun of Trump’s hand size, implying that his manhood was not so large. “I have to say this. He hit my hands. Nobody has ever hit my hands. I have never heard of this. Look at those hands. Are they small hands?” Trump responded, on a nationally televised debate to become leader of the free world. “And he referred to my hands, if they are small, something else must be small,” Trump deadpanned. “I guarantee you there’s no problem. I guarantee you.” There was shouting inside the debate hall and out. As a light snow fell on Woodward Avenue across from Ford Field, progressive protesters growled about their issues of the day: their objections to “racist” Trump; their demand for a higher minimum wage; calls for an immediate solution for the lead-poisoned people of Flint. But the shouting and chanting was statesmanlike compared to the childish theatrics indoors. You could practically hear your brain cells crying out in pain as they died out, answer after answer The rest of the story ... |
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Post by Cranky on Mar 4, 2016 14:39:35 GMT -5
The hand joke from Rubio was not a sex joke, but rather something way further back and a bit of an inside thing. Of course, the biased end of the media took it and ran it against Rubio...anything to discredit the Republicans and further their own political agenda. What the joke was about....which of course you will NEVER read in most of the biased media.... abcnews.go.com/Politics/history-donald-trump-small-hands-insult/story?id=37395515Credit ABC news for taking the time to actually looking at it one step closer then the puddle headline depth and manufactured outrage of most of the other biased media. Journalism even at the lowest level is dead. Welcome to bias media. Welcome to manufactured outrage. Welcome to propaganda. 24/7. |
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 4, 2016 16:08:04 GMT -5
The flawed system is nothing new.
Washington turned a blind eye (while maintaining an outstretched hand) back in the 1800s as America's blue-blooded business oligarchs amassed even greater wealth peddling opium around the world with their British colleagues….most notably in China.
What's changed?
It's now covered on 24-hr. media outlets and web sites….and even the mainstream messengers are bought and muzzled….nice, expensive, comfortable muzzles, though, I'm sure...
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Post by Cranky on Mar 4, 2016 16:24:50 GMT -5
A friend once asked me, what do you think of our political class....
"Well, when I was growing up, I p****d toward the left, then as I got older, I p****d toward the right, now I just wear a diaper".
*sic*
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Post by Cranky on Mar 4, 2016 18:09:06 GMT -5
From reasonable to insane.....from a slam dunk to questionable AND scary outcome. Do NOT bet against Trump being President. Notice, whatever he throws up on a daily basis, it still hasn't sunk him. Attachments:
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Post by Cranky on Mar 11, 2016 14:16:06 GMT -5
Carson endorsed Trump.
I guess he wants to get the thrill ride on a train wreck....or hoping to be named vp.
Sad.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Mar 11, 2016 18:53:09 GMT -5
Carson endorsed Trump. I guess he wants to get the thrill ride on a train wreck....or hoping to be named vp. Sad. 300 million to choose from and we end up with these 5. Very disappointing. Instead of a favorite candidate here are my least favorite choices in order. WORST Bernie Sanders (Tommy Douglas reincarnated) Pillory Clinton (she wasn't even Bills first choice in the White House) Donald Trump (starting to accept that we may have a game show host in the white house) Ted Cruze (a better Canadian choice than Trudeau) Marco Rubio (originally my first choice until he opens his mouth) I WANTED RubiO from the beginning and he has done nothing to improve my opinion of him. It looks like Trump may win and my only consolation is four years of Trump is an improvement on eight years of Obama. Very sad. In California my vote means nothing against a solid Democratic block. The day after the inauguration we start the 2020 campaign fundraising and primaries. |
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Post by Cranky on Mar 12, 2016 1:41:48 GMT -5
Carson endorsed Trump. I guess he wants to get the thrill ride on a train wreck....or hoping to be named vp. Sad. 300 million to choose from and we end up with these 5. Very disappointing. Instead of a favorite candidate here are my least favorite choices in order. WORST Bernie Sanders (Tommy Douglas reincarnated) Pillory Clinton (she wasn't even Bills first choice in the White House) Donald Trump (starting to accept that we may have a game show host in the white house) Ted Cruze (a better Canadian choice than Trudeau) Marco Rubio (originally my first choice until he opens his mouth) I WANTED RubiO from the beginning and he has done nothing to improve my opinion of him. It looks like Trump may win and my only consolation is four years of Trump is an improvement on eight years of Obama. Very sad. In California my vote means nothing against a solid Democratic block. The day after the inauguration we start the 2020 campaign fundraising and primaries. Other then Rubio, the other 4 are a joke. Special mention......Sanders is crazier then Trump but the heavily biased press wont look into his whackiness. 10 trillion, jailing dissenters, planet dying, open borders, international Kumbaya, bankers evil, the 1% did it, free money and ice cream......just normal far left wackiness. Good luck to you if he wins. Unfortunately, the most sane one was Romney and probably would of won by a landslide, but refused to run. There is still some hope they pull the rug from Trumps head and go with Romney is a write in. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 16, 2016 7:45:02 GMT -5
I thought he had a better chance than this, HA ... I guess it's like any other election insomuch as, voters listening to the most convincing BS ... 'It is not God's plan that I be president in 2016, or maybe ever,' - Marco Rubio Link Cheers. |
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Post by Cranky on Mar 17, 2016 15:39:37 GMT -5
Gods plan.....Rubio is a bit prone to bs the appropriate jargon of his audience. Like all politicians, he tends to chameleon into the bend of whatever masses he's addressing.
Trump is torturing the Republican party. Their dismissal of his chances as nothing more then a fringe lunatic that would flame out was an epic miscalculation. Unlike the Democratic party, they don't have a block of superdelegates that can direct the results. The Republican nominations is true majority democracy...and a failing.
Now we have the threat of violence from Trump if he is not crowned. So be it. Better to suffer some wounds and banish this vile then bend the knee.
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Post by franko on Mar 17, 2016 16:06:54 GMT -5
unfortunately, some of the Republicans caucus States allow anyone and everyone to vote in the primaries, which have allowed the Trump forces to carry the day . . . even if they aren't card-carrying members. iat would be like having TML fans have a say in the on-going affairs of HabsRusers, trying to foist their blue thongs of the less-endowed Leafers on the members here.
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Post by Cranky on Mar 17, 2016 17:39:10 GMT -5
unfortunately, some of the Republicans caucus States allow anyone and everyone to vote in the primaries, which have allowed the Trump forces to carry the day . . . even if they aren't card-carrying members. iat would be like having TML fans have a say in the on-going affairs of HabsRusers, trying to foist their blue thongs of the less-endowed Leafers on the members here. Fortunately, the HabsRus caretakers are know to carry very large, very sharp, very rusted axes....and not afraid to yield them. I wish the Republican brain trust did the same. The putrid clown is doing so much damage that if he's not dealt with a vengeance bent, he will do lasting damage. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 17, 2016 17:41:22 GMT -5
I can't believe how much of a circus it is ... Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton ... Clinton's controversial emails are now on Wikileaks via Twitter (only a few minutes ago) ... just Google Wikileaks Clinton emails and you should get something ... these two look to be the front-runners now and they're both pretty bad actors ...
Cheers.
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Post by franko on Mar 17, 2016 17:41:41 GMT -5
unfortunately, some of the Republicans caucus States allow anyone and everyone to vote in the primaries, which have allowed the Trump forces to carry the day . . . even if they aren't card-carrying members. iat would be like having TML fans have a say in the on-going affairs of HabsRusers, trying to foist their blue thongs of the less-endowed Leafers on the members here. Fortunately, the HabsRus caretakers are know to carry very large, very sharp, very rusted axes....and not afraid to yield them. I wish the Republican brain trust did the same. The putrid clown is doing so much damage that if he's not dealt with a vengeance bent, he will do lasting damage. And silly me, I thought someone running for the Republican Party would/should actually have the values of say . . . a Republican. |
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Post by Cranky on Mar 17, 2016 17:57:55 GMT -5
And silly me, I thought someone running for the Republican Party would/should actually have the values of say . . . a Republican. Be careful there... According the wooly Andes haters, that would include book burning and delicious baby back ribs bbq's. (Taste like chicken) |
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Post by Cranky on Mar 17, 2016 18:07:16 GMT -5
I can't believe how much of a circus it is ... Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton ... Clinton's controversial emails are now on Wikileaks via Twitter (only a few minutes ago) ... just Google Wikileaks Clinton emails and you should get something ... these two look to be the front-runners now and they're both pretty bad actors ... Cheers. This was a slam dunk win for Republicans if Rubio or Romney carried the day. There is still hope. If the Republican brain trust decapitated Trump, any loss of voters, which is at best 8% of the voting public, will be more then made up by centrist and Democratic voters staying away. The US has 20 to 25% committed to either end of the spectrum and 50 to 60% centrist. If 10% of Democrats sit on their hands, offsetting the Trump troglodyte and 5% of centrist swing right, Reps have three houses. It's worth the risk. For the sake of America. |
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Post by Cranky on Mar 17, 2016 18:20:42 GMT -5
BTW....Rubio "suspended" his presidential bid. Which he can "unsuspend" at the convention floor. And Romney can be a write in.
Given how Carson suspended his morals to support garbage, a Romney-Rubio ticket would make my political heart sing. (That is, if I had a heart)
Ohh...the webs we weave.....
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Post by Skilly on Mar 17, 2016 18:55:21 GMT -5
Gods plan.....Rubio is a bit prone to bs the appropriate jargon of his audience. Like all politicians, he tends to chameleon into the bend of whatever masses he's addressing. Trump is torturing the Republican party. Their dismissal of his chances as nothing more then a fringe lunatic that would flame out was an epic miscalculation. Unlike the Democratic party, they don't have a block of superdelegates that can direct the results. The Republican nominations is true majority democracy...and a failing. Now we have the threat of violence from Trump if he is not crowned. So be it. Better to suffer some wounds and banish this vile then bend the knee. The Republicans have their own version of super delegates; they have unbound delegates. They are the delegates of the drop outs, and in some states you need to get a certain percentage of the vote or those delegates are unbound too. Currently, there are over 300 republican unbound delegates waiting to be bribed ... Wait, did I say that?? The Repulicans will also have to re-write Romney's Ran Paul rule ... Last election they decided you had to win the majority of votes in 8 states to even get to the convention floor for the first ballot. Currently only Trump would qualify, and Cruz has 4. So you can bet they rule will be removed. So it isn't exactly a true majority democracy. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 18, 2016 19:46:07 GMT -5
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Post by Cranky on Mar 22, 2016 0:49:17 GMT -5
As much as i despise Trump, there wont be a dull moment, particularly with the politically correct, self appointed "we are the ones we are waitng for" pseudo elite. I can see the jokes about our Prince being his favorite with....."he may be a twirp, but he's got nice hair like me". I would fall off my chair with laughter....but not laughing at a shut down auto sector. |
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Post by Cranky on Mar 22, 2016 0:50:26 GMT -5
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 22, 2016 8:57:32 GMT -5
Trump is a clown….but is he the ONLY leader speaking out against Islamic supremacism backed by terrorist tactics?
TODAY: 34 dead and 170+ injured in bombings at Brussels Airport and Metro.
Do we want that NONSENSE here? It's already here…but to that magnitude? At that frequency?
Pay attention, Justin! With that ideology comes those doctrines, comes that diabolical brainwashing and behaviour….
What a mess in Europe. Angela Merkel….what a legacy….
The time for political correctness in this case is OVER.
Integral in maintaining a free society is that all ideas MUST BE open to criticism and denounced/stopped if necessary….and not allowed to hide under the security blanket of "religion should be respected"….
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Post by franko on Mar 22, 2016 9:46:15 GMT -5
Integral in maintaining a free society is that all ideas MUST BE open to criticism and denounced/stopped if necessary….and not allowed to hide under the security blanket of "religion should be respected"…. there is a big difference between tolerance and acceptance, then between acceptance and respect, then between respect and capitulation. question me, please. question what I believe and why I believe it. disagree with me even. but then we shake hands, walk away, and go on with our lives. this "my way or else" philosophy -- from all religious (and might I say political) perspectives -- is abhorrent. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 22, 2016 11:07:58 GMT -5
... this "my way or else" philosophy -- from all religious (and might I say political) perspectives -- is abhorrent. This is the tag on the Republicans ... Barry Soetoro Barack Obama's philosophy is more, "it's my way and I don't care" which I find to be just as damaging ... his administration has done some great things over the past (7-8) years; however, as a politician, I find him just as full of crap as the rest of him ... I guess the American public is okay with his $70 million (and counting) in getaway expenses ... imagine Donald Trump having access to this kind of money ... electing Trump would be a travesty ... it would divide the US and, if I'm Trump, I'd be concerned not only for the country, but for his well being too ... Cheers. |
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Post by franko on Mar 22, 2016 11:23:43 GMT -5
well, it started with Hillary (this time) and has now moved on to Trump:
One night when Donald Trump was sleeping he had a dream where he was visited by the ghost of George Washington. He asked him, "George, what can I do to best serve the United States?"
The ghost of George Washington responded, "Never tell a lie."
He said, "Oh, I don't think I can do that."
The next night as he was sleeping he dreamt that he was visited by the ghost of Thomas Jefferson. He asked him, "Thomas, what can I do to best serve the United States?"
The ghost of Thomas Jefferson responded "Listen to the people."
He said, "Oh, I don't think I can do that."
On the third night, he dreamt that he was visited by the ghost of Abraham Lincoln. He asked him, "Abraham, what can I do to best serve the United States?"
The ghost of Abraham Lincoln responded, "Go see a play."
I actually worry that someone might act in such a manner . . .
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Post by seventeen on Mar 22, 2016 12:24:06 GMT -5
I was in the US last week, the northwestern part, and several Americans I spoke to upon realizing I was Canadian, asked what we thought of Trump, "up there". They were embarrassed about him and wondering if the world community had the same idea they did. I was in a middle class area, with better than average education, and that's not an area of support for Drumpf. I had to confirm their fears, but also that we were not only amused, but also fearful, because he seemed to have a lot more support than any irrational wannabee deserves. These people just shook their heads at the situation and two of them, half joking yet somewhat serious, asked us to keep open a couple of spots as they planned to move north if Drumpf won. I would guess that's a common sentiment. The main hope is that there are only so many disgruntled, poorly educated, lower income Americans who'll get sucked in by the propoganda.
I understand there is a group of about 60% of the population who are strongly against Drumpf and this has not changed over the months. What a mess the Republican's have made of their party. And they used to be a good option for voters, decades ago, before their own extreme religious members took over. Sad.
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