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Post by seventeen on Nov 25, 2005 0:12:07 GMT -5
...Guillaume Latendresse, who is not only huge at 6-2/220 pounds, but also freakishly strong. If there's a thread that runs through superstar players, it's strength. One of the few who wasn't 'obviously' strong is Gretzky, but even he seemed to be difficult to catch and hard to knock off the puck. Lafleur always amazed me how he could shrug off checks, even though he wasn't a big guy or heavily built. He was strong, though. Hull, Orr, Howe, Beliveau, Richard, Lemieux, Messier, Potvin, etc. etc. etc., all strong guys. If there's one attribute you 'should have' to reach superstar status...it's strength. |
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Post by clear observer on Nov 25, 2005 8:29:58 GMT -5
...Guillaume Latendresse, who is not only huge at 6-2/220 pounds, but also freakishly strong. If there's a thread that runs through superstar players, it's strength. One of the few who wasn't 'obviously' strong is Gretzky, but even he seemed to be difficult to catch and hard to knock off the puck. Lafleur always amazed me how he could shrug off checks, even though he wasn't a big guy or heavily built. He was strong, though. Hull, Orr, Howe, Beliveau, Richard, Lemieux, Messier, Potvin, etc. etc. etc., all strong guys. If there's one attribute you 'should have' to reach superstar status...it's strength. I've met Lafleur a few times and always found myself impressed by both the size and-strength of his hands following a simple hand-shake. CO |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Nov 25, 2005 12:46:31 GMT -5
If there's a thread that runs through superstar players, it's strength. One of the few who wasn't 'obviously' strong is Gretzky, but even he seemed to be difficult to catch and hard to knock off the puck. Lafleur always amazed me how he could shrug off checks, even though he wasn't a big guy or heavily built. He was strong, though. Hull, Orr, Howe, Beliveau, Richard, Lemieux, Messier, Potvin, etc. etc. etc., all strong guys. If there's one attribute you 'should have' to reach superstar status...it's strength. I've met Lafleur a few times and always found myself impressed by both the size and-strength of his hands following a simple hand-shake. CO John Ferguson was my lacrosse coach at the East End Boys Club. Although he was only 5'11", he had gigantic hands. When he placed them on your shoulders and squeezed, you went wherever he sent you. Incredible strength. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Nov 30, 2005 14:01:27 GMT -5
Gui picked up 2 goals and two assists last night. Guess he's over the let down of not making the Hab's this year.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Dec 1, 2005 0:01:22 GMT -5
He's now 25th in points
12th in goals.
and his performances against Russia were amazing...
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Post by habmeister on Dec 1, 2005 15:46:57 GMT -5
He's now 25th in points 12th in goals. and his performances against Russia were amazing... He is a man among boys down there. Sometimes power forwards score more goals in the show than in juniors. I didn't get to see him play in the exhibition, but against the russians he looked huge and if he has good hands then he will put a burn on the back of belfour's neck next season. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Dec 2, 2005 23:40:17 GMT -5
2 goals tonight for Gui in a 7-3 win...
Gui is now in the top 10 of the league in goals.
GUI-GUI-GUI !
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Post by Cranky on Dec 3, 2005 14:48:29 GMT -5
2 goals tonight for Gui in a 7-3 win... Gui is now in the top 10 of the league in goals. GUI-GUI-GUI ! Imagine what he could do if he was MOTIVATED? This is a man-beast playing with minors. Gainey oh Gainey, where was thy brian? I wonder...... Could he be called to the bigs after the season ends? This COULD make a difference EXACTLY at the time we need him the most. Assuming we don't slide into oblivion..... |
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Post by Bob on Dec 3, 2005 17:17:06 GMT -5
Gainey oh Gainey, where was thy brian? Success in the Q doesn't automatically mean success in the NHL See Pierre Dagenais, Eric Chouinard and others Yes, he could be recalled if Drummondville are eliminated before Montreal. And the same applies to Chipchura... although I can foresee Chips being traded to a contender if Prince Albert doesn't begin to improve. And I am with you on this one... Latendresse could help change the makeup of the Canadiens later this year. But playing 25 minutes a game right now will help him more than the 6 or 7 minutes that he might be getting with the Habs... which is about what Perez is getting. |
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Post by Cranky on Dec 4, 2005 1:08:14 GMT -5
And I am with you on this one... Latendresse could help change the makeup of the Canadiens later this year. But playing 25 minutes a game right now will help him more than the 6 or 7 minutes that he might be getting with the Habs... which is about what Perez is getting. I would be perfectly happy to blow this year if we had a chance to develop another three-four rookies. If we had turned Gui, Hansey, Kosti and Denis into full time NHL'ers then it would be well worth wasting a season. That would make us the youngest team in the NHL and give us a team WAY UNDER the salary cap to buy talent the following year. Very high risk move but it could of turn us into contenders a year or two later. |
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Post by PTH on Dec 4, 2005 2:06:30 GMT -5
And I am with you on this one... Latendresse could help change the makeup of the Canadiens later this year. But playing 25 minutes a game right now will help him more than the 6 or 7 minutes that he might be getting with the Habs... which is about what Perez is getting. I would be perfectly happy to blow this year if we had a chance to develop another three-four rookies. If we had turned Gui, Hansey, Kosti and Denis into full time NHL'ers then it would be well worth wasting a season. That would make us the youngest team in the NHL and give us a team WAY UNDER the salary cap to buy talent the following year. Very high risk move but it could of turn us into contenders a year or two later. That kind of planning never seems to work out. Players know when the situation is hopeless, and UFAs stay away and the players in place don't develop well. The best teams over the past decade - Dallas, Detroit, Colorado, etc, try to be a contending team each and every year, not at the expense of the future, but not by sacrificing the present to improve the future, either. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Dec 5, 2005 0:27:43 GMT -5
And I am with you on this one... Latendresse could help change the makeup of the Canadiens later this year. But playing 25 minutes a game right now will help him more than the 6 or 7 minutes that he might be getting with the Habs... which is about what Perez is getting. I would be perfectly happy to blow this year if we had a chance to develop another three-four rookies. If we had turned Gui, Hansey, Kosti and Denis into full time NHL'ers then it would be well worth wasting a season. That would make us the youngest team in the NHL and give us a team WAY UNDER the salary cap to buy talent the following year. Very high risk move but it could of turn us into contenders a year or two later. I tend to agree that ice time and practice dominating in the QMJHL is more important for Latendresse and his development than sitting on the pines in the NHL or worse, pitting an 18 year old (not named Crosby) against NHL veterans. Guillaume is developing normally and will be an effective contributor next year. Last time I checked, Hamilton didn't go very far in their playoffs. I don't think that injection of youth would get us any further ahead in the NHL, and a very bad year for les boys wouldn't help anyone. Kostitsyn has to EARN his starting role and not expect it to be handed to him on a platter. If he doesn't work for it he won't be rewarded. Even Locke hasn't turned Junior success into AHL success the way Hudler has. Corey is learning the ropes but he isn't there yet. There is no shortcut without hard work (unless your name is Crosby and God loves you) |
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Post by MC Habber on Dec 5, 2005 16:40:57 GMT -5
Gui is now in the top 10 of the league in goals. So I guess those 9 other guys should all be in the NHL this year too.... |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Dec 5, 2005 21:06:18 GMT -5
Gui is now in the top 10 of the league in goals. So I guess those 9 other guys should all be in the NHL this year too.... I don't know. I haven't seen them play the way I've seen Lats played in pre-season for us and I don't know either if their team has a glaring hole in their lineup which these kids could adequately fill and grow into. Stats don't mean much without the big picture. |
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Post by Cranky on Dec 6, 2005 0:41:36 GMT -5
I would be perfectly happy to blow this year if we had a chance to develop another three-four rookies. If we had turned Gui, Hansey, Kosti and Denis into full time NHL'ers then it would be well worth wasting a season. That would make us the youngest team in the NHL and give us a team WAY UNDER the salary cap to buy talent the following year. Very high risk move but it could of turn us into contenders a year or two later. I tend to agree that ice time and practice dominating in the QMJHL is more important for Latendresse and his development than sitting on the pines in the NHL or worse, pitting an 18 year old (not named Crosby) against NHL veterans. Guillaume is developing normally and will be an effective contributor next year. Last time I checked, Hamilton didn't go very far in their playoffs. I don't think that injection of youth would get us any further ahead in the NHL, and a very bad year for les boys wouldn't help anyone. Kostitsyn has to EARN his starting role and not expect it to be handed to him on a platter. If he doesn't work for it he won't be rewarded. Even Locke hasn't turned Junior success into AHL success the way Hudler has. Corey is learning the ropes but he isn't there yet. There is no shortcut without hard work (unless your name is Crosby and God loves you) I don't believe that he can learn to be better at the next level if he plays at his previous level. Raise the bar and raise the expectations. There is no question in ANYONE's mind that he can dominate in Juniors. How will he fare when he meets MEN at the AHL level? We ALREADY know that he CAN play against men so where the leap of faith? This demotion had EVERYTHING to do with the CBA and free agency with the 7/25 rule.....and NOTHING more. |
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Post by seventeen on Dec 6, 2005 2:37:08 GMT -5
I hope Drummondville either misses the playoffs our exits early. We could use the stud ourselves come the end of the season.
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Post by Habit on Dec 6, 2005 6:47:42 GMT -5
I hope Drummondville either misses the playoffs our exits early. We could use the stud ourselves come the end of the season. I believe he can only play in Hamilton, not with the Habs. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Dec 6, 2005 11:34:27 GMT -5
I tend to agree that ice time and practice dominating in the QMJHL is more important for Latendresse and his development than sitting on the pines in the NHL or worse, pitting an 18 year old (not named Crosby) against NHL veterans. Guillaume is developing normally and will be an effective contributor next year. Last time I checked, Hamilton didn't go very far in their playoffs. I don't think that injection of youth would get us any further ahead in the NHL, and a very bad year for les boys wouldn't help anyone. Kostitsyn has to EARN his starting role and not expect it to be handed to him on a platter. If he doesn't work for it he won't be rewarded. Even Locke hasn't turned Junior success into AHL success the way Hudler has. Corey is learning the ropes but he isn't there yet. There is no shortcut without hard work (unless your name is Crosby and God loves you) I don't believe that he can learn to be better at the next level if he plays at his previous level. Raise the bar and raise the expectations. There is no question in ANYONE's mind that he can dominate in Juniors. How will he fare when he meets MEN at the AHL level? We ALREADY know that he CAN play against men so where the leap of faith? This demotion had EVERYTHING to do with the CBA and free agency with the 7/25 rule.....and NOTHING more. In order to improve, a player has to practice. Practice the shot, skating, stickhandling, vision etc. When a young player develops his skills stickhandling, first he stickhandles around cones, then players his own age, then he is ready for the next level. Practice doesn't mean do it once and move on. It means doing something until it becomes second nature, automatic. Gui hasn't had the full outstanding Jr. year that Ribeiro and Locke have. As much as I would love to see him on the Hab's and as much as the Hab's could use a power forward who can score, I think this year in juniors is what's best for Gui's development. He probably could have made it on the team based upon his great camp, but this way may prove better than a 20 game start followed by a demotion as has happened to many can't miss kids. |
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Post by habmeister on Dec 7, 2005 2:32:41 GMT -5
Just wanted to let you know that i'll be at all three training/tryout sessions for the canada world junior team here in vancouver next week. I'll give a full report on all three of the Canadiens players, especially Latendresse. I'll probably sit with my friend who is an nhl player agent and get his feel as to what he thinks of the 3 habs as well.
can't wait to see the big guy live and in person 6-8 times in the next 30 days.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Dec 7, 2005 12:06:25 GMT -5
Just wanted to let you know that i'll be at all three training/tryout sessions for the canada world junior team here in vancouver next week. I'll give a full report on all three of the Canadiens players, especially Latendresse. I'll probably sit with my friend who is an nhl player agent and get his feel as to what he thinks of the 3 habs as well. can't wait to see the big guy live and in person 6-8 times in the next 30 days. That makes me really jealous. When watching a bunch of guys under 21 years of age playing hockey sounds more exciting than watching a bunch of girls under 21 dance at a gentlemans club, I know I'm getting old! |
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Post by clear observer on Dec 7, 2005 12:08:50 GMT -5
Just wanted to let you know that i'll be at all three training/tryout sessions for the canada world junior team here in vancouver next week. I'll give a full report on all three of the Canadiens players, especially Latendresse. I'll probably sit with my friend who is an nhl player agent and get his feel as to what he thinks of the 3 habs as well. can't wait to see the big guy live and in person 6-8 times in the next 30 days. That makes me really jealous. When watching a bunch of guys under 21 years of age playing hockey sounds more exciting than watching a bunch of girls under 21 dance at a gentlemans club, I know I'm getting old! Please tell us you're joking...you are joking right....right??  CO |
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Post by habmeister on Dec 7, 2005 12:20:28 GMT -5
That makes me really jealous. When watching a bunch of guys under 21 years of age playing hockey sounds more exciting than watching a bunch of girls under 21 dance at a gentlemans club, I know I'm getting old! Please tell us you're joking...you are joking right....right?? CO haha...married guy not get out much anymore?! i must admit that i'm excited to see latendresse as well, on the left coast we don't get any q highlights. there is nothing like chez paris, supersexe, brandy's or the cecil though! |
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Post by insomnius on Dec 7, 2005 13:01:46 GMT -5
Gainey oh Gainey, where was thy brian? Next to his Scott? or Allen? (sorry could not resist) This demotion had EVERYTHING to do with the CBA and free agency with the 7/25 rule.....and NOTHING more. May I posit another theory? The possibility of having Gui contend for Rookie of the year? Versus Crosby, Phaneuf, Svatos and Ovechkin, Latendresse might not have had much of a chance even with a 20 goal season...next season Malkin might STILL be playing in Russia making the Calder trophy a great deal more accessible to Gui.... It's a thought.... |
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Post by habmeister on Dec 7, 2005 13:09:22 GMT -5
May I posit another theory? The possibility of having Gui contend for Rookie of the year? Versus Crosby, Phaneuf, Svatos and Ovechkin, Latendresse might not have had much of a chance even with a 20 goal season...next season Malkin might STILL be playing in Russia making the Calder trophy a great deal more accessible to Gui.... It's a thought.... the only trophy that matters goes by the name of stanley. i don't think gainey gave a millisecond of thought to that. it's a theory that has more holes than theodore's glovehand. |
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Post by clear observer on Dec 7, 2005 13:49:13 GMT -5
May I posit another theory? The possibility of having Gui contend for Rookie of the year? Versus Crosby, Phaneuf, Svatos and Ovechkin, Latendresse might not have had much of a chance even with a 20 goal season...next season Malkin might STILL be playing in Russia making the Calder trophy a great deal more accessible to Gui.... It's a thought.... the only trophy that matters goes by the name of stanley. i don't think gainey gave a millisecond of thought to that. it's a theory that has more holes than theodore's glovehand. ...and players with "trophy-in-hand" always seem to have agents with contract "illusions-of-grandeur"... ...having said that, it ain't my money and to have the boy win the Calder would simply be spectacular... ...I'm looking forward to seeing it presented to him in the summer of '07!  CO |
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Post by habmeister on Dec 8, 2005 1:08:27 GMT -5
More good news about my scouting lats next week at canada tryout camp here. I went to the vancouver giants whl game tonight and sat with my buddy who is an nhl agent. He said he was talking to the canadiens whl/bc scout a day or two ago and the scout is just drooling about latendresse. My buddy even seemed to think this kid has huge potential. (i'm not sure if my friend would want me putting his name on here, but trust me this is 100% legit). Anyway, he knows how big of a habs fan i am, as well as how much i like watching junior hockey and doing my own scouting. He says he's going to try to introduce me to the scout and maybe sit with him if he's free one of the nights. How would that be for an inside scoop! He said that he's a good guy and probably wouldn't mind it at all. Obviously my friend must think that i'm not just a schmuck hockey fan, as i can usually pick out the good junior prospects before he even tells me what round they're in or how they're rated.
Anyway, looking forward to next week more than christmas!!! Latendresse and Price baby!!
oh yeah, i told my buddy that chipchura was going to be there and he didn't think he was invited, shows you how much of an impression chips is making. My buddy literally sees about 5 junior games/week when he's in town, has probably seen chips play 5 times this season.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Dec 8, 2005 19:58:27 GMT -5
Early returns indicate that GUI will interface with the Habs next season. Click, click, hooray! Ok I won't ask why you are talking about Graphical User Intefaces (crap you made me think of work ..damn you!)  ....... but even last year wasn't the second best player the guy on Crosby's wing? (name begins with a "P" I believe .... I barely heard of "The Tenderizer" until the draft. Dagenais, Theodore, Begin. Latendresse has parts of all of them. GUI. Giraffic, Usury, In-your-face. |
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Post by lalalatendresse on Dec 9, 2005 13:36:47 GMT -5
Just wanted to let you know that i'll be at all three training/tryout sessions for the canada world junior team here in vancouver next week. I'll give a full report on all three of the Canadiens players, especially Latendresse. I'll probably sit with my friend who is an nhl player agent and get his feel as to what he thinks of the 3 habs as well. can't wait to see the big guy live and in person 6-8 times in the next 30 days. Cool. I'm looking forward to read your report on our three guys. At this point, no one on this team except Cam Barker (given that he's healthy) is a lock for this year's team. However, it's pretty safe to say that Latendresse's spot on this team is his to lose. He has already proved he can step up in key moments in the past. As for Chipchura, judging on what Brent Sutter had to say about his leadership and overall qualities as a player, I'd say he'll be on the team too, perhaps wearing the "C" or an "A". What I'm most intrigued about is the goalthending situation. I don't know how Team Canada feels about Price, but he has really caught fire since November. I know they won't take a decision based on statistics, but a guy like Justin Pogge has been stellar on a very defensive-minded Calgary Hitmen team. Ellis has also been sharp for Shawinigan in the Q. Timmins seems to be confident that Price will get the nod as starter, but that remains to be seen. I guess it will all depend on their performance in camp! |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Dec 11, 2005 10:48:47 GMT -5
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Post by Neo on Dec 11, 2005 10:59:04 GMT -5
Yeah I heard about his photo-op. Not that there's anything wrong with it, but why pose for a gay magazine if you're not gay (unless he is)? And the fact that he's involved in professional sports doesn't help at all....
This makes no sense to me...if it's the spotlight he's looking for, I would think that there are other ways of going about it.
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....... but even last year wasn't the second best player the guy on Crosby's wing? (name begins with a "P" I believe .... I barely heard of "The Tenderizer" until the draft.
