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Post by CentreHice on Jun 27, 2018 16:01:24 GMT -5
Reminds me of "The Late Shift"--the Leno/Letterman battle for the Tonight Show.
CAA's Mike Ovitz became Letterman's agent and set up pitch meetings for several networks at the agency's offices.
Streamlined due diligence. Everybody gets a kick at it in a controlled environment. Then the bidding war begins.
How many other UFAs have used this process?
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Post by jkr on Jun 27, 2018 18:12:32 GMT -5
Didn't Brad Richards do something like this? When that happened it seemed like he was going through the motions because he always intended to sign with the Rangers.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jun 27, 2018 18:24:17 GMT -5
I hope he signs in Nashville with his "real" buddy PK Subban.
EDIT: So apparently Tavares has narrowed his choices to the following 6 teams:
Boston
Dallas
NY Islanders
San Jose
Tampa
Toronto
So there you have it. Oodles of cap space, desperate for a guy like Tavares, and not even an invitation to put in a bid. Sorry, thanks but no thanks. What a fall from grace for Bergevin and the Habs. 3 years ago we were one of the teams to watch in the East and just a player away. Now we can't even get a seat at the table next to a non-playoff team like Dallas. But Tavares sees what we all see. Whatever, I'm sure Berg will spin it like they didn't want a guy like Tavares anyway. Not enough character.
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Post by jkr on Jun 27, 2018 20:57:49 GMT -5
Wasn't Bergevin supposed to parlay his friendship with Brisson into a meeting with Tavares? Ha!
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 27, 2018 21:19:56 GMT -5
He's in the lofty position of being THE MAN in this round of UFAs.
He'll get money and term.....it's the team he feels has the best Cup shot that should swing it.
By the way, I wonder if JT's no-go list is the CLUSTER of teams of which Bergevin envisioned being a member...
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Post by Cranky on Jun 27, 2018 21:49:04 GMT -5
Easy hello to the 100 million dollar man.
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Post by jkr on Jun 30, 2018 6:26:55 GMT -5
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Post by blny on Jul 1, 2018 11:40:50 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Jul 1, 2018 11:49:19 GMT -5
He asked not to be moved at the deadline & now this.
One school of thought that I just saw was that apparently he doesn't feel an allegiance to the new management group. Whatever. The Isles get the shaft by honoring that request & not dealing him at the deadline.
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Post by jkr on Jul 1, 2018 11:59:11 GMT -5
Just had a look at NY Newsday. Still not reporting anything.
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Post by blny on Jul 1, 2018 11:59:35 GMT -5
He asked not to be moved at the deadline & now this. One school of thought that I just saw was that apparently he doesn't feel an allegiance to the new management group. Whatever. The Isles get the shaft by honoring that request & not dealing him at the deadline. They've got to be gutted. 9 years of loyalty goes out the window for fans. I'm sure JT got updates on the new building, where they'd continue to play in the interim, etc. He clearly wasn't enthused by what he was hearing. Who knows, maybe he doesn't like Lou. |
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Post by jkr on Jul 1, 2018 12:05:42 GMT -5
He asked not to be moved at the deadline & now this. One school of thought that I just saw was that apparently he doesn't feel an allegiance to the new management group. Whatever. The Isles get the shaft by honoring that request & not dealing him at the deadline. They've got to be gutted. 9 years of loyalty goes out the window for fans. I'm sure JT got updates on the new building, where they'd continue to play in the interim, etc. He clearly wasn't enthused by what he was hearing. Who knows, maybe he doesn't like Lou. Couldn't read all the Athletic article but from what I saw it looks like ownership was committed. Did they blow it by firing Snow & Weight? I thought those kind of changes were positive. I remember when Roy left. It was like a kick in the nuts. I feel for Isles fans. |
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Post by jkr on Jul 1, 2018 12:16:27 GMT -5
Going to Toronto as per TSN.
worst possible scenario, another kick in the crotch.
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Post by CentreHice on Jul 1, 2018 12:17:58 GMT -5
Going to Toronto as per TSN. worst possible scenario, another kick in the crotch. Look at that....a plan that works! Envious....but that's what happens when you start the rebuild at the top. A no-nonsense POHO with a mandate and a plan. Meanwhile, we remain Geoff's playtoy... |
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Post by jkr on Jul 1, 2018 12:19:31 GMT -5
Going to Toronto as per TSN. worst possible scenario, another kick in the crotch. Look at that....a plan that works! Envious....but that's what happens when you start at the top with a no-nonsense POHO with a mandate and a plan. Meanwhile, we remain Geoff's playtoy.... Meanwhile the Habs GM is busy filling the Laval roster. |
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Post by franko on Jul 1, 2018 12:37:30 GMT -5
Meanwhile the Habs GM is busy filling the Laval roster. rather he do that than over pay more 4th liners |
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Post by The Habitual Fan on Jul 1, 2018 12:39:56 GMT -5
Is it too much if I hope Domi punches him in the face?
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Post by drkcloud on Jul 1, 2018 12:56:26 GMT -5
Going to Toronto as per TSN. worst possible scenario, another kick in the crotch. Look at that....a plan that works! Envious....but that's what happens when you start the rebuild at the top. A no-nonsense POHO with a mandate and a plan. Meanwhile, we remain Geoff's playtoy... Legitimate Stanley Cup threats... how many times fo we play them on Saturday HNIC. Gonna be unwatchable. The strong teams in our division make a bottom 5 finish all the more likely. We'll be rolling 4 lines of interchangeable plugs. This sucks |
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Post by Cranky on Jul 1, 2018 13:18:13 GMT -5
I'm not a religious man and don't believe in hell, but I rather be in hell then hear the endless, unbearable Laffs cup vomiting.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 1, 2018 13:18:53 GMT -5
If the Leafs don't win the Cup now they never will ...
Cheers.
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Post by blny on Jul 1, 2018 13:37:45 GMT -5
Going to Toronto as per TSN. worst possible scenario, another kick in the crotch. Look at that....a plan that works! Envious....but that's what happens when you start the rebuild at the top. A no-nonsense POHO with a mandate and a plan. Meanwhile, we remain Geoff's playtoy... This is part one of the plan, and perhaps the easiest. Phase 2 will be re-signing Matthews, Marner and Nylander. They can go through this coming season with the status quo, but decisions will have to be made. They can't keep Kadri long term as a 3rd liner at $4.5 million. They still have serious defensive issues. Matthews will want 8 years and something approaching McDavid money. Marner and Nylander can likely be locked up for 6-8 years for something in the $7 million range. Bottom line, if they keep that group of 3 and Tavares, you're looking at as much as $40 million spent on 4 guys. That's not sustainable, especially when it's all forwards. I haven't even mentioned Morgan Rielly. |
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Post by CentreHice on Jul 1, 2018 13:47:41 GMT -5
Look at that....a plan that works! Envious....but that's what happens when you start the rebuild at the top. A no-nonsense POHO with a mandate and a plan. Meanwhile, we remain Geoff's playtoy... This is part one of the plan, and perhaps the easiest. Phase 2 will be re-signing Matthews, Marner and Nylander. They can go through this coming season with the status quo, but decisions will have to be made. They can't keep Kadri long term as a 3rd liner at $4.5 million. They still have serious defensive issues. Matthews will want 8 years and something approaching McDavid money. Marner and Nylander can likely be locked up for 6-8 years for something in the $7 million range. Bottom line, if they keep that group of 3 and Tavares, you're looking at as much as $40 million spent on 4 guys. That's not sustainable, especially when it's all forwards. I haven't even mentioned Morgan Rielly. Ah, for the Habs to be in such a position....  |
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Post by blny on Jul 1, 2018 13:51:16 GMT -5
This is part one of the plan, and perhaps the easiest. Phase 2 will be re-signing Matthews, Marner and Nylander. They can go through this coming season with the status quo, but decisions will have to be made. They can't keep Kadri long term as a 3rd liner at $4.5 million. They still have serious defensive issues. Matthews will want 8 years and something approaching McDavid money. Marner and Nylander can likely be locked up for 6-8 years for something in the $7 million range. Bottom line, if they keep that group of 3 and Tavares, you're looking at as much as $40 million spent on 4 guys. That's not sustainable, especially when it's all forwards. I haven't even mentioned Morgan Rielly. Ah, for the Habs to be in such a position.... Their in a position to offer sheet any of those guys if they haven't signed on July 1.  |
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Post by Cranky on Jul 1, 2018 13:54:41 GMT -5
You think that our brilliant Mr Dressup can see an opportunity to move Webber? Does Mr Dressup even have a Plan B when all his Plan A have the viability of Mexican burrito gas?
Face it, we are powerless and it's all up to the ticket holder brothers to walk away.....and make Golden Spooner fear the health of his Golden Goose. .
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Post by CentreHice on Jul 1, 2018 13:59:38 GMT -5
Look at that....a plan that works! Envious....but that's what happens when you start the rebuild at the top. A no-nonsense POHO with a mandate and a plan. Meanwhile, we remain Geoff's playtoy... This is part one of the plan, and perhaps the easiest. Phase 2 will be re-signing Matthews, Marner and Nylander. They can go through this coming season with the status quo, but decisions will have to be made. They can't keep Kadri long term as a 3rd liner at $4.5 million. They still have serious defensive issues. Matthews will want 8 years and something approaching McDavid money. Marner and Nylander can likely be locked up for 6-8 years for something in the $7 million range. Bottom line, if they keep that group of 3 and Tavares, you're looking at as much as $40 million spent on 4 guys. That's not sustainable, especially when it's all forwards. I haven't even mentioned Morgan Rielly. I give MLSE way more credit. They're further along than Part 1, IMO. More like evolutionary steps....chess-thinking. Step 1. MLSE goes to sports' fixer, Tim Leiweke, to turn the Leafs, Raptors, and FC around. Shanahan is hired as POHO. Step 2. Shanahan starts shedding bad contracts.....secures Mike Babcock as head coach. Subpar GM, Nonis, fired. Step 3. Being honest with their fans/media about a rebuild that will proceed in an atmosphere of positivity. Step 4. Tanking for Matthews. (Yes, I know it's a lottery...but they had the best odds at #1.) Step 5. Building back enough credibility to entice and close John Tavares.... Part 6 will include, as you've said, trying to manage the stars and salaries. But it'll also include strong development towards Cup contention. (Not to mention that their farm won the Calder Cup.) There are so many steps in a proper rebuild. Our problem is that we're not even at Step 1. |
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Post by seventeen on Jul 1, 2018 14:05:37 GMT -5
Look at that....a plan that works! Envious....but that's what happens when you start at the top with a no-nonsense POHO with a mandate and a plan. Meanwhile, we remain Geoff's playtoy.... Meanwhile the Habs GM is busy filling the Laval roster. A Tale of Two Cities: Sunday, July 1, 2018: Leafs sign John Tavares. Habs (via Laval) sign Alexandre Grenier. |
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Post by seventeen on Jul 1, 2018 14:06:31 GMT -5
You think that our brilliant Mr Dressup can see an opportunity to move Webber? Does Mr Dressup even have a Plan B when all his Plan A have the viability of Mexican burrito gas? Face it, we are powerless and it's all up to the ticket holder brothers to walk away.....and make Golden Spooner fear the health of his Golden Goose. . Dubas is too smart to give up anything of value. He pitched Tavares on the one thing most UFA's really want...and that is to win the Cup. We didn't even get the courtesy of a phone call, so that tells you how Tavares judges Montreal's chances of winning the Cup anytime soon. To get the elite guys you have to gut the team and suffer for a couple of years or more. We've paid for one year, what's another two? |
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Post by Cranky on Jul 1, 2018 14:23:58 GMT -5
You think that our brilliant Mr Dressup can see an opportunity to move Webber? Does Mr Dressup even have a Plan B when all his Plan A have the viability of Mexican burrito gas? Face it, we are powerless and it's all up to the ticket holder brothers to walk away.....and make Golden Spooner fear the health of his Golden Goose. . Dubas is too smart to give up anything of value. He pitched Tavares on the one thing most UFA's really want...and that is to win the Cup. We didn't even get the courtesy of a phone call, so that tells you how Tavares judges Montreal's chances of winning the Cup anytime soon. To get the elite guys you have to gut the team and suffer for a couple of years or more. We've paid for one year, what's another two? You're kidding yourself if you think its "another two". Oil, sabres and Isles have scrapped bottom for years...and how are they doing on touching the promised land? Face it, we're the leper colony for FAs and dreaming we are going to build a contender from dreaming we are drafting diamonds. Then add that extra special cherry of a worthless GM and Mr Ballard V2. |
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Post by blny on Jul 1, 2018 14:24:56 GMT -5
Too all the teams Tavares turned down ...
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Post by Willie Dog on Jul 1, 2018 14:43:44 GMT -5
You think that our brilliant Mr Dressup can see an opportunity to move Webber? Does Mr Dressup even have a Plan B when all his Plan A have the viability of Mexican burrito gas? Face it, we are powerless and it's all up to the ticket holder brothers to walk away.....and make Golden Spooner fear the health of his Golden Goose. . Dubas is too smart to give up anything of value. He pitched Tavares on the one thing most UFA's really want...and that is to win the Cup. We didn't even get the courtesy of a phone call, so that tells you how Tavares judges Montreal's chances of winning the Cup anytime soon. To get the elite guys you have to gut the team and suffer for a couple of years or more. We've paid for one year, what's another two? I thought the great MB and Tavares agent were buddies?? |
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