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Post by Skilly on Jun 20, 2018 7:33:01 GMT -5
John Tavares is UFA and rumours are he is back talking to NY Isles.
Bob MacKenzie and Darren Dreger are reporting that Toronto is putting together a promotional video and players were called to the ice this week for that video purpose.
Dreger is also stating that he believes if contract talks stall past this weekend with the Islanders, that Johnny T will meet three NHL clubs in LA.
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Post by jkr on Jun 20, 2018 9:05:37 GMT -5
With Matthews & Kadri as their one & two centres why would they need Tavares & where would they play? Plus what about signing Nylander & Marner.
Tavares is from the Toronto area so the video idea is amusing.
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Post by madhabber on Jun 20, 2018 9:23:08 GMT -5
Is Toronto going to pay him $14-$15 million to play second banana to Matthews. They will have to re-sign Matthews next year. How much will he want then. Tavares just doesn't make any sense for them.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 23, 2018 12:08:19 GMT -5
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Post by Polarice on Jun 23, 2018 12:13:52 GMT -5
I wonder who the 5 teams are? |
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Post by Polarice on Jun 23, 2018 12:18:31 GMT -5
Actually hearing that 3 of the teams are Montreal, Toronto and Vegas.
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Post by blny on Jun 23, 2018 12:49:10 GMT -5
Actually hearing that 3 of the teams are Montreal, Toronto and Vegas. Friedmann threw out everyone but those 3. He included Tampa, which is asinine. They've got Stamkos, Point, and Johnson. They don't have the roster spot or the cap space. |
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Post by Polarice on Jun 23, 2018 13:33:39 GMT -5
Actually hearing that 3 of the teams are Montreal, Toronto and Vegas. Friedmann threw out everyone but those 3. He included Tampa, which is asinine. They've got Stamkos, Point, and Johnson. They don't have the roster spot or the cap space. He had no clue lol, I saw the segment. Twitter verse mentioned those 3 teams. But really who knows. |
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Post by jkr on Jun 23, 2018 13:57:14 GMT -5
Still don't see Toronto. Matthews & Kadri are their 1/2. Plus they have Matthews etc to sign. They need to upgrade the D.
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Post by blny on Jun 23, 2018 14:14:51 GMT -5
Still don't see Toronto. Matthews & Kadri are their 1/2. Plus they have Matthews etc to sign. They need to upgrade the D. They need big cash for Matthews, Nylander and Marner. Tavares would have to take a hometown discount and bank on huge endorsements. |
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Post by folatre on Jun 23, 2018 18:11:12 GMT -5
I have no read on this, but I think the Islanders have done some positive things for their franchise this month. In my view, if certain aspects of the NYI reality still do not quite measure up, then I anticipate that Tavares heads West, maybe San Jose, perhaps Vegas, or even the Blues.
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Post by Cranky on Jun 23, 2018 18:37:04 GMT -5
Taveras to TO and we get Kadri, Marner, Reilley and Anderrson for Webber and Price plus salary retainers.
Full rebuild....with only a little bit of crying when laffs hoist the cup.
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Post by jkr on Jun 25, 2018 8:19:05 GMT -5
It's odd what you think of in a bout of insomnia. AT 2:30 am I was thinking about this: I couldn't see why the Leafs would be interested. They have Matthews & Kadri as their centres & big contracts to dole out to Matthews, Marner and Nylander. As well, there is their D to improve. Then I thought, what if they are following the Pittsburgh model. Two top class centres in Crosby & Malkin, very good scoring wingers in Kessel & Guentzel, an average D & strong goaltending. If the Leafs could swing the money their 1&2 centres are Matthews & Tavares with Marner & Nylander on the wings. Maybe they move Kadri to 3C or to a wing spot. They could simply outscore teams. This approach got the Penguins 2 straight Cups. Maybe it would work in TO & I'm just in denial. Please tell me I'm wrong guys.  |
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Post by Andrew on Jun 25, 2018 11:29:59 GMT -5
I couldn't see why the Leafs would be interested. They have Matthews & Kadri as their centres & big contracts to dole out to Matthews, Marner and Nylander. As well, there is their D to improve. Then I thought, what if they are following the Pittsburgh model. Two top class centres in Crosby & Malkin, very good scoring wingers in Kessel & Guentzel, an average D & strong goaltending. It would be tough to manage cap-wise, but from this angle it seems like a pretty good problem to have with all of that talent in your org. Find a taker for Horton's cap hit via trade. JVR and Bozak are off the books already. Bridge Nylander, and have 1 more year of entry level for Marner and Matthews. After next year find a new home for Marleau's last year at $6.25 when Matthews and Marner re-up. If need be, part with one of their star wingers for help on D. Smart management and they could make it work. Also, with him wanting to speak with Boston, Tampa and Nashville it seems as though money might not be the #1 priority, and possibly there's a discount to be had. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 25, 2018 13:26:42 GMT -5
Well he isn't coming to montreal that is for sure. I expect a david perron only kind of signing this summer.
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Post by Cranky on Jun 25, 2018 13:27:55 GMT -5
It's odd what you think of in a bout of insomnia. AT 2:30 am I was thinking about this: I couldn't see why the Leafs would be interested. They have Matthews & Kadri as their centres & big contracts to dole out to Matthews, Marner and Nylander. As well, there is their D to improve. Then I thought, what if they are following the Pittsburgh model. Two top class centres in Crosby & Malkin, very good scoring wingers in Kessel & Guentzel, an average D & strong goaltending. If the Leafs could swing the money their 1&2 centres are Matthews & Tavares with Marner & Nylander on the wings. Maybe they move Kadri to 3C or to a wing spot. They could simply outscore teams. This approach got the Penguins 2 straight Cups. Maybe it would work in TO & I'm just in denial. Please tell me I'm wrong guys. Not with the defense and goaltending they have. We got their perfect solution..... |
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Post by jkr on Jun 25, 2018 17:00:27 GMT -5
Just saw something on the TSN ticker. SJ, Boston, TB, Toronto & Dallas get in person meetings. 2-3 other unnamed teams will get a phone meeting that could lead to an in person meeting. So unless Montreal is one of those other teams I guess they are out of this?
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Post by Skilly on Jun 25, 2018 17:26:04 GMT -5
Montreal is out in the cold, and we are left to wonder why all the cap space once again ,...
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Post by Andrew on Jun 25, 2018 17:56:45 GMT -5
No surprise there. Montreal has never landed the big fish in free agency. Why would this be any different? We've seldom been a contender in the last 25 years. Taxes and winters suck. Fans and media range from annoying to insufferable. Lousy management under current regime. What are the selling points?
Original 6 city with rich tradition. Hockey mad market. A couple of team Canada buddies. All of these are waaaaay down the list after things like: opportunity to win a cup, get paid, and live somewhere that his wife will be happy.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 25, 2018 18:38:46 GMT -5
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Post by blny on Jun 25, 2018 19:26:09 GMT -5
Well he isn't coming to montreal that is for sure. I expect a david perron only kind of signing this summer. Seen rumours that Montreal has reached out to Stastny. |
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Post by Cranky on Jun 25, 2018 19:37:05 GMT -5
The chances that Taveras signing here is about as likely as Molson tweeting......"who cares about a cup. #SUCKERS"
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Post by Cranky on Jun 25, 2018 19:41:07 GMT -5
Well he isn't coming to montreal that is for sure. I expect a david perron only kind of signing this summer. Seen rumours that Montreal has reached out to Stastny. Beergy: 7-7/49 should do it. He's got karakter |
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Post by Skilly on Jun 25, 2018 19:46:33 GMT -5
Statsny is 32, will turn 33 on December 27th, ... Bergevin can't go more than 4 years, preferably only 3 years
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Post by blny on Jun 25, 2018 20:30:37 GMT -5
Statsny is 32, will turn 33 on December 27th, ... Bergevin can't go more than 4 years, preferably only 3 years 2x6 or 3x5 would be my limit. He's a capable 2nd line center. Not flashy. Smart, but not necessarily capable of driving offense. IIRC, he's capable in the face off circle. If they circled back on ROR - who I also think is more a #2 than a #1 - despite Andrew Berkshire's statistical manipulations - we'd be better off down the middle than we have been in a long time. ROR seems unlikely now, given the way his contract is structured. Buffalo asked for the moon, didn't get it, and will be forking out a HUGE bonus cheque on July 1. www.capfriendly.com/players/ryan-oreillyIn theory, you'd give Kotka a couple of years to develop further, then bring him into the fold. He could play third fiddle behind ROR who'd have 3 years left at that point and be 29, and Stastny would be 34/35 with one year left. Drouin O'Reilly Gallagher 5.5 7.5 3.75 67.5233 Domi Stastny Scherbak 3.15 6 0.863 Byron Danault Hudon 1.167 2 0.65 Deslaurier DLR McCarron 0.95 1 0.75 Mete Weber 0.7483 7.857 Alzner Petry 4.625 5.5 Schlemko Juulsen 2.1 0.863 Benn 1.1 Price 10.5 Niemi 0.95 That's $12.5 million under the cap, and contingent on what you get back for Max. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 26, 2018 8:09:33 GMT -5
If he does come on board I'd look at Paul Statsny being a pretty decent mentor at the position for a lot of the youngsters coming up over the next few years ... like blny, I'd look at a 2-yr gig ... mind you, if he re-signs Tomas Plekanec ...
Cheers.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 26, 2018 12:28:31 GMT -5
Stastny would help the team get another 10 points. That would put us at 80 or so. A rebound from Price and Weber and we're up to 90. Just enough to miss the playoffs and collect the 15 or 16th draft pick in 2019. Oh boy. Perfect. Bergevin would be able to say he improved the team 25% and Molson would lap it up.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 26, 2018 21:29:09 GMT -5
Stastny would help the team get another 10 points. That would put us at 80 or so. A rebound from Price and Weber and we're up to 90. Just enough to miss the playoffs and collect the 15 or 16th draft pick in 2019. Oh boy. Perfect. Bergevin would be able to say he improved the team 25% and Molson would lap it up. Why would this not surprise me... 25 years in the wilderness with no end in sight... yippee... |
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Post by seventeen on Sept 19, 2018 11:29:49 GMT -5
The hype in Leafland is on full blast, of course. Tavares scores his first goal, in a pre season game and it's the lead story on TSN. Not a single mention of why all the Ottawa players were above the hash marks when Tavares is wide open below them. With that much space, even Plekanec could have scored there.
Ok, maybe that's stretching things.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Sept 19, 2018 12:19:26 GMT -5
The hype in Leafland is on full blast, of course. Tavares scores his first goal, in a pre season game and it's the lead story on TSN. Not a single mention of why all the Ottawa players were above the hash marks when Tavares is wide open below them. With that much space, even Plekanec could have scored there. Ok, maybe that's stretching things. One Tavares goal in a small Hockeyville community arena was enough fodder for a week's worth of TSN highlights, just imagine two goals. This hype train is going nowhere but up this season. I am just gearing up to be in semi-permanent ignore mode for our national networks. |
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