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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 16, 2020 12:24:49 GMT -5
I thought it was hyperbole when I read that, but then I watched the little video clip on sportsnet website and the tears were there, jeje. I'm sure Pollock cried about a number of players he had signed....
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Post by GNick99 on Oct 16, 2020 13:32:27 GMT -5
Sounds like Bergs has this year or two or he be out of here. Bergs certainly has had change in philosophy. Throwing money around like a drunken sailor. He's not even trying to cut himself a deal. Paying full blown retail in trades. If this goes bad many of these contracts will be unmovable.
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Post by UberCranky on Oct 16, 2020 14:05:11 GMT -5
There is no crying allowed in senior management. At worse, you take two extra drinks and beat up the pet hamster....
Seriously, if Bbinz was crying, then that is a bad thing. Really bad. Too much emotion, too personal, too much invested in certain outcomes when what you really want is a cold, calculating, heartless GM looking at every conceivable option that benefits the focused result.
And just as i was thinking that he turned a corner....
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 16, 2020 15:01:08 GMT -5
There is no crying allowed in senior management. At worse, you take two extra drinks and beat up the pet hamster.... Seriously, if Bbinz was crying, then that is a bad thing. Really bad. Too much emotion, too personal, too much invested in certain outcomes when what you really want is a cold, calculating, heartless GM looking at every conceivable option that benefits the focused result. And just as i was thinking that he turned a corner.... Start to wonder who approached who after talks broke off. MB had a sleepless night and called to apologize and up the offer? Was Gally really breaking off talks over $6.5 for 6 years? I'm guessing MB blinked.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 17, 2020 1:42:13 GMT -5
There is no crying allowed in senior management. At worse, you take two extra drinks and beat up the pet hamster.... Seriously, if Bbinz was crying, then that is a bad thing. Really bad. Too much emotion, too personal, too much invested in certain outcomes when what you really want is a cold, calculating, heartless GM looking at every conceivable option that benefits the focused result. And just as i was thinking that he turned a corner.... Rather than heartless, I think you just have to be rational and logical. Not quite to the Spock stage, because it helps to place some value on loyalty or 'some' intangibles, but in and ideal world ( ) you have to let your head rule your heart.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 17, 2020 1:47:42 GMT -5
There is no crying allowed in senior management. At worse, you take two extra drinks and beat up the pet hamster.... Seriously, if Bbinz was crying, then that is a bad thing. Really bad. Too much emotion, too personal, too much invested in certain outcomes when what you really want is a cold, calculating, heartless GM looking at every conceivable option that benefits the focused result. And just as i was thinking that he turned a corner.... Start to wonder who approached who after talks broke off. MB had a sleepless night and called to apologize and up the offer? Was Gally really breaking off talks over $6.5 for 6 years? I'm guessing MB blinked. There are some situations I'd give my eye teeth to have had a hidden microphone stashed away. The Aho offer sheet was one, and these Gally negotiations are another. Especially given the tears afterward (crocodile tears? Didn't look like that to me), what the heck happened that caused talks to break off? Gally's agent seemed quite serious about it, when asked by a journalist. He was surprised and I concur. If Gallagher is such a key part of the Habs (he is), what kind of approach was taken? Gally settled for a reasonable amount and term so it doesn't feel like he was asking too much. As the saying goes, WTF? That was just weird.
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 17, 2020 2:40:47 GMT -5
Wow! This story, if true, tells you all you need to know about our boy Geoffy. Aside from revealing terrible values, it also shows a lack of respect for the history of this great franchise. It may just be Serge with some sour grapes and pushing his new book with some headline grabbers. But we know Serge did help Molson find his GM and we haven't seen much of Serge since. (Of course, if I was Serge, I don't know if I'd be playing up my role in hiring MB ) It will be very interesting to see how this plays out in the French media and the fan base. Maybe Molson is now on the clock? montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/canadiens-icon-serge-savard-says-he-feels-let-down-by-organization
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 17, 2020 8:15:28 GMT -5
Wow! This story, if true, tells you all you need to know about our boy Geoffy. Aside from revealing terrible values, it also shows a lack of respect for the history of this great franchise. It may just be Serge with some sour grapes and pushing his new book with some headline grabbers. But we know Serge did help Molson find his GM and we haven't seen much of Serge since. (Of course, if I was Serge, I don't know if I'd be playing up my role in hiring MB ) It will be very interesting to see how this plays out in the French media and the fan base. Maybe Molson is now on the clock? montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/canadiens-icon-serge-savard-says-he-feels-let-down-by-organizationGood for Serge... the Alumni needs to start crapping on the organization when they doing stupid things... Imo, alot of the things he mentions sounds like MBs doing... why would Geoffey change how you get to the alumni room... might go back to the MT days... he struck me as the paranoid type...
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Post by seventeen on Oct 17, 2020 12:42:50 GMT -5
The article was written by Brendan Kelly, so you know it will have a certain slant to it. Having said that, unless the quotes are badly distorted or made up, it's not a good look. Some of Serge's complaints go back to Ronald Corey, but there are enough recent ones to question aspects of the organization. One also has to remember that at the time Serge recommended Bergevin, he was basically given a choice of a bunch of 3rd quartile candidates so no wonder Berg looked the best of the bunch. He had indeed had experience with the Black Hawks, but sometimes, like Jim Rutherford, you can be inept and still look like a success. Kevin Chevaldayoff was a key guy with the Black Hawks during that period and could very well have been instrumental in much of the success. Dale Tallon hasn't proved to be so hot, Stan Bowman has a lot of critics in Chicago. Someone had to be doing some good grunt work and given how well Chevy has performed under difficult circumstances in Winnipeg, it sure looks like he was the guy (probably with a few others) doing the good work. Bergevin may have reaped the benefit of that. Chripes, he was up against Pierre McGuire!
Anyway, my opinion of both Molson and Bergevin hasn't changed. The sooner they are no longer part of Canadiens history, the better.
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