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Post by Cranky on Mar 16, 2020 1:27:18 GMT -5
I am....but my own health is on the bottom
Stressed about my 102 year old father in Europe.
Stressed about the economy collapsing. Retired so there is no "earning more money".
Stressed about the worse scenario were we need Italian level confinement. Or worse. Every day will be an adventure in health and mental fortitude.
Stressed about my loved ones.
And finally, stressed about me. I don't like the "targetting age" of this virus.
This f virus wasn't on my retirement bucket list...
Are you stressed? About what?
(I'll move this in a week.)
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Mar 16, 2020 6:17:28 GMT -5
I am....but my own health is on the bottom Stressed about my 102 year old father in Europe. Stressed about the economy collapsing. Retired so there is no "earning more money". Stressed about the worse scenario were we need Italian level confinement. Or worse. Every day will be an adventure in health and mental fortitude. Stressed about my loved ones. And finally, stressed about me. I don't like the "targetting age" of this virus. This f virus wasn't on my retirement bucket list... Are you stressed? About what? (I'll move this in a week.) Me too but let’s put it into perspective. There are two columns. Things I can do something about and things I can do nothing about. Corona virus makes Molson and Bergevin look like small problems. I can’t buy the Canadiens and effect changes. I can’t discover a vaccine or a cure for coved19. I can wash my hands, be careful and hope for the best. I’m retired so I won’t miss a paycheck, need daycare or absolutely need to fly or cruise. We are in the grouping where the impact of the disease is serious (8% fatality). Can’t change that. Hab’s have 6.5% chance of Lafreniere Keep up the good fight. |
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Post by jkr on Mar 16, 2020 6:43:01 GMT -5
My anxiety levels are high at the best of times. I've avoided crowded places & carried hand sanitizer with me for years. I was doing social distancing before it became a thing.😀 My biggest worry is my mother, she is 91 & in a retirement home. They just shut their doors to non essential visitors. In other words, unless the residentis extremely ill you cannot come in. I did get in Saturday for a visit after unsuccessfuly hunting for toilet paper. The hoarders got it all.  It will be phone calls only for a while. One of my children works in the restaurant industry. He is already seeing a slowdown. Eventually they will probably close & leave the staff without a pay cheque. I'm retired but I have been doing volunteering for about 2 years. They shut that down for several weeks at least, because we are in that target age group. That leaves me with more time on my hands to think of the worst case scenarios.I can't go to the libraries, they just closed. I guess it's Netflix & an e-reader for me. I live about 80k NW of Toronto. No cases here yet. Maybe I will just keep going north. |
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Post by franko on Mar 16, 2020 7:28:43 GMT -5
I'm retired but I have been doing volunteering for about 2 years. They shut that down for several weeks at least, because we are in that target age group. That leaves me with more time on my hands to think of the worst case scenarios.I can't go to the libraries, they just closed. I guess it's Netflix & an e-reader for me. I live about 80k NW of Toronto. No cases here yet. Maybe I will just keep going north. I'd say that we should all get together for coffee, but . . . you know . . . |
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Post by GNick99 on Mar 16, 2020 8:11:13 GMT -5
Bored with no sports at all.
Disappointed as Markets I know will tumble more yet.
Worried as Canada's hospitals are pushed to brink during normal times, doubt they can handle a pandemic in this country.
But stressed?...no....it will pass
Fortunate I don't have to check scoreboard on Habs awful season.
Forrtunate for the extra time off to go for walks and get to the cottage.
Fortunate for when virus slows down be tons of buying opportunities on both Wall and Bay Street.
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Post by mikeg on Mar 16, 2020 17:29:44 GMT -5
I wouldn't be as stressed if the Americans had their sh.. together, but the insane focus on the stock market and a leader who is not much smarter than an embryo are not the types of things that lend to feeling confident about the containment of this virus.
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Post by jkr on Mar 16, 2020 19:47:57 GMT -5
Maybe they should closer border with the U.S. I live in a small town north of Toronto & we have our first confirmed case today, someone coming back from Atlanta.
Of course if Canada does that then there will be retaliation by Trump. Perhaps his bungling of this crisis will finally convince Americans that he needs to go.
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Post by franko on Mar 16, 2020 20:04:05 GMT -5
Maybe they should closer border with the U.S. I live in a small town north of Toronto & we have our first confirmed case today, someone coming back from Atlanta. you want to keep Canadians in the States? There are many more to yet return -- are you (as in the Canadian government) willing to pay all expenses, including hospital or food and lodging? you can hope. got a replacement in mind? and "anyone" doesn't cut it.  |
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Post by PTH on Mar 16, 2020 21:27:06 GMT -5
I'm stressed, but more about climate change... it's got all the same hallmarks as the current pandemic, only over decades rather than weeks, so the world's been able to ignore it and not make the deep, structural changes that are needed.
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Post by PTH on Mar 16, 2020 21:30:18 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Mar 16, 2020 21:58:17 GMT -5
Maybe they should closer border with the U.S. I live in a small town north of Toronto & we have our first confirmed case today, someone coming back from Atlanta. you want to keep Canadians in the States? There are many more to yet return -- are you (as in the Canadian government) willing to pay all expenses, including hospital or food and lodging? you can hope. got a replacement in mind? and "anyone" doesn't cut it. There's only 2 left & IMO, Biden is more electable. |
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Post by franko on Mar 16, 2020 22:19:56 GMT -5
here's only 2 left & IMO, Biden is more electable. agree that he's the last great hope but unfortunately for the Dems he comes with enough baggage that Trump can obfuscate, deny deflect and discredit . . . and win another close one. |
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Post by Cranky on Mar 17, 2020 5:17:38 GMT -5
Wait...Biden is better then Trump? You do realize that he's getting senile. Those pauses are not drama lessons from our Dear Leaderless. Nor are the gaffes. He was always prone to them, but those use to be excused as mid-spun lies, these are straight up memory lapses and confusion.
But hey, just because he's showing this now, he's very special, he will invert the normally rapid increase in senility as he ages......
Whatever you think of Trump, Biden is not the answer. Nor was Hillary, which so many of you thought she was and were surprised when she lost.
Which begs the question, out of 330,000,000 people why can't they find a reasonably smart leader.
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Post by franko on Mar 17, 2020 8:35:30 GMT -5
Whatever you think of Trump, Biden is not the answer. Nor was Hillary, which so many of you thought she was and were surprised when she lost. unfortunately for the Dems, they haven't let go of swamp thinking. new and bold isn't acceptable; they offer mots with Biden, just a slightly different mots. I know that is a rhetorical question. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 17, 2020 12:08:40 GMT -5
Which begs the question, out of 330,000,000 people why can't they find a reasonably smart leader. 330,000,000 people and they're given the choice of either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump ... not sure how you can try and guilt people into voting when they're literally given no options at all ... that's the biggest problem south of the border ... Cheers. |
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Post by Cranky on Mar 17, 2020 12:22:58 GMT -5
I started the thread to share our pain and concerns. Even though i want to reflexivly participate I rather not talk about US politics.
I'm on another hockey board and finding out that some people have existing compromised immunity, well, i fear for their lives. Some are living on the economic edge and fear losing everything and living on the street. Some are just are the usual aholes.
Right now, i don't know why anyone would care about hockey. It's a fn game versus health and economic hell.
Yes, this is a hockey board but we are a community of humans....and I care about our community as i am sure you all are. I love to see all of you checking in and posting, even if it's to post a bad joke or a nudie of your pet bird.
I hope everyone is careful and safe. And please, check in and post.
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Post by jkr on Mar 17, 2020 12:58:51 GMT -5
Just spoke to my son & found out that the restaurant in Toronto that employs him has to close. Right now it's a month but after that, who knows. His partner is still working, so that's a positive but I don't know how long they can go on one income.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 17, 2020 13:07:51 GMT -5
I certainly wasn't thinking, old friend ... I liken it to having every hockey thread infected with the 'MolsonBerg' virus, so I completely understand where you're coming from ... my posture has changed drastically from only a week or so ago ... as of yesterday, all of the bowling leagues in Kingston have postponed their play until a later date ... right now I have to get out to the store to buy some items and then it's right back home ... I won't get into personal circumstances because everyone is probably in the same boat ... here are the first confirmed cases of COVID-19 in my city ... considering the circumstances I think Kingston has been pretty lucky ... |
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Post by Cranky on Mar 17, 2020 13:09:05 GMT -5
Just spoke to my son & found out that the restaurant in Toronto that employs him has to close. Right now it's a month but after that, who knows. His partner is still working, so that's a positive but I don't know how long they can go on one income. This is when families needs to close rank. It's the first line of defense. |
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Post by Cranky on Mar 17, 2020 13:22:35 GMT -5
I certainly wasn't thinking, old friend ... Dis, nothing there. You posted just before i did and there was no direction just because of posting order. I took a political shot too but rethought the unintended direction. Moving on.... This virus is fsr worse then 9-11. Then, it was simply a single or even multiple acts that were more noise then total war on our health and economy. This is far short of the great wars....as long as this virus doesn't mutate to a ten percenter...or worse. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 17, 2020 14:09:30 GMT -5
For my family, there are no members within the age range or immune deficiency that the Covid-19 virus has had the worst impact on.
I too am concerned about the economy and its impact on everyone... it's all connected... spending, taxes, investments/pensions etc. My RSP has taken a 10 percent hit and will get worse. The key is not to panic, hold on to what you have is what I've been reading. And if your able to, buy when things start to improve and the market has bottomed out.
My wife manages a dental office and they've been ordered shut for at least 2 weeks... that means no pay. We're fortunate in that we have put away a little bit and can weather the storm but a couple of her employees are living paycheque to paycheque. The feds really need to open up EI and waive the waiting period. Employers issue RoE to all affected staff and they submit their EI claim.
On the positive side, in Ottawa at least, it looks like the hoarding has subsided... it was really impacting the supply chain. When there is no flour, lysol, TP, chicken and other things on the shelf it's quite an eye opening experience in how some of the world live on a regular basis.
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Post by jkr on Mar 17, 2020 14:36:54 GMT -5
For my family, there are no members within the age range or immune deficiency that the Covid-19 virus has had the worst impact on. I too am concerned about the economy and its impact on everyone... it's all connected... spending, taxes, investments/pensions etc. My RSP has taken a 10 percent hit and will get worse. The key is not to panic, hold on to what you have is what I've been reading. And if your able to, buy when things start to improve and the market has bottomed out. My wife manages a dental office and they've been ordered shut for at least 2 weeks... that means no pay. We're fortunate in that we have put away a little bit and can weather the storm but a couple of her employees are living paycheque to paycheque. The feds really need to open up EI and waive the waiting period. Employers issue RoE to all affected staff and they submit their EI claim. On the positive side, in Ottawa at least, it looks like the hoarding has subsided... it was really impacting the supply chain. When there is no flour, lysol, TP, chicken and other things on the shelf it's quite an eye opening experience in how some of the world live on a regular basis. The lack of TP is driving me nuts. My mother lives in a nice retirement home but the residents are responsible for there own toiletries etc. She is starting to get low on toilet paper & over the last 3-4 days I have been to various stores about ten times. Sobey's had some on Thursday but they wanted $13.00 for a small package that usual goes for 5-6 bucks. Refused to buy it. Walmart, No Frills Shopper's, Zehr's - nothing. I'm sure the home will pitch in if needed but it's getting ridiculous. My mother had to tell me to stop stressing about it.  |
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Post by Cranky on Mar 17, 2020 14:44:34 GMT -5
For my family, there are no members within the age range or immune deficiency that the Covid-19 virus has had the worst impact on. I too am concerned about the economy and its impact on everyone... it's all connected... spending, taxes, investments/pensions etc. My RSP has taken a 10 percent hit and will get worse. The key is not to panic, hold on to what you have is what I've been reading. And if your able to, buy when things start to improve and the market has bottomed out. My wife manages a dental office and they've been ordered shut for at least 2 weeks... that means no pay. We're fortunate in that we have put away a little bit and can weather the storm but a couple of her employees are living paycheque to paycheque. The feds really need to open up EI and waive the waiting period. Employers issue RoE to all affected staff and they submit their EI claim. On the positive side, in Ottawa at least, it looks like the hoarding has subsided... it was really impacting the supply chain. When there is no flour, lysol, TP, chicken and other things on the shelf it's quite an eye opening experience in how some of the world live on a regular basis. You mentioned dentist.....in our semi annual check-up, the dentist found a small cavity in my wifes expensive teeth. *looks behind for wife* My wifes first reaction is to wait, my first reaction was....wait for what? This is going to get worse and the probability of infection for the dentist or his staff, or even going downtown is going to get worse. In she went two days later. The hoarding thing is getting under my skin. First off, confession...we are bulk buyers because we want to take advantage of every sale, doing that for 45 years and my parents before that. On something like toilet paper, we would buy from a few to several months supply simply because of the sale price. But....butt....this deliberate hoarding of toilet paper blows my mind. The product is made in Canada or USA in extremely automated factories. From US and Canadian forest raw material. All of a sudden the trees are getting a virus? Or machines? Plus there is the issue by hoarding needlessly, they are forcing other people to expose themselves by forcing them to go store to store. It's not like not having toilet paper is the end of the world, but nobody wants to tell their 7 year old not to use toilet paper. or their elderly parents. Then there is the hoarding of bottle water. Really? Of all the utilities, water is on the top for importance with a mile separating the next most important thing. To begin with, these are not personnel heavy utilities, a water works supplying millions probably has less people then a small COSTCO, plus it's not a complex operation. I actually looked up the qualifications for an operator and it's...grade 12. I'm sure that there are thousands of people outside their certified personal that can support the infrastructure. On top of this, even in the uber extreme reason our water supply gets contaminated, there is that secret process known to all.....BOIL THE DAMN WATER IN A POT. Bacteria and virus do not survive past 160F so boiling brings it up to 212F and a few minutes kill EVERYTHING. Back in the old country where findings dead animals in a the river/lake water supply was not unheard off, people learned to boil water on a routine basis. Both the above are annoyances, what is going to get serious is that people hoarding medical and hygiene supplies. Or going stupid on food stuff. Of any country on the planet, we in Ontario and Quebec have thousands and thousands farms producing dairy, poultry adn hog products*. Plus corn/beans/etc. In fact, the dairy and poultry industry is regulated to keep DOWN supplies. Then there is the overlap of companies that process these supplies. So the idea that we are going to run our of eggs/milk/bread is just as ludicrous as running out of toilet paper. This virus has a hidden symptom.....reducing human IQ to cave dwellers. (*When I was hunting around southern Ontario to put up a wind project, I met a few dozen families that had 40-50-60 cow dairy farms. I was amazed that ma and pa operations were automated enough that it could be run by two people. Also amazed at the amount of them all over the place. We have a massive network of back roads all across Ontario servicing thousands upon thousands of farms. It's a hidden world to city dwellers, including me, until I spend a few months travelling around them.) |
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 17, 2020 14:49:59 GMT -5
For my family, there are no members within the age range or immune deficiency that the Covid-19 virus has had the worst impact on. I too am concerned about the economy and its impact on everyone... it's all connected... spending, taxes, investments/pensions etc. My RSP has taken a 10 percent hit and will get worse. The key is not to panic, hold on to what you have is what I've been reading. And if your able to, buy when things start to improve and the market has bottomed out. My wife manages a dental office and they've been ordered shut for at least 2 weeks... that means no pay. We're fortunate in that we have put away a little bit and can weather the storm but a couple of her employees are living paycheque to paycheque. The feds really need to open up EI and waive the waiting period. Employers issue RoE to all affected staff and they submit their EI claim. On the positive side, in Ottawa at least, it looks like the hoarding has subsided... it was really impacting the supply chain. When there is no flour, lysol, TP, chicken and other things on the shelf it's quite an eye opening experience in how some of the world live on a regular basis. The lack of TP is driving me nuts. My mother lives in a nice retirement home but the residents are responsible for there own toiletries etc. She is starting to get low on toilet paper & over the last 3-4 days I have been to various stores about ten times. Sobey's had some on Thursday but they wanted $13.00 for a small package that usual goes for 5-6 bucks. Refused to buy it. Walmart, No Frills Shopper's, Zehr's - nothing. I'm sure the home will pitch in if needed but it's getting ridiculous. My mother had to tell me to stop stressing about it. Shoppers have been pretty good regarding TP |
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Post by Cranky on Mar 17, 2020 15:06:11 GMT -5
Martial Law.....it's on the horizon.
Canadians and Americans are "special". If we need China level of restrictions, I'm concerned that we are not going to get the cooperation for certain sectors of our society. Mainly young people and "freedom lovers". Despite my gut level hate of it....I can see the need.
Discuss.....
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 17, 2020 15:55:22 GMT -5
Martial Law.....it's on the horizon. Canadians and Americans are "special". If we need China level of restrictions, I'm concerned that we are not going to get the cooperation for certain sectors of our society. Mainly young people and "freedom lovers". Despite my gut level hate of it....I can see the need. Discuss..... It's the 'Me' part of society... the ones who hoard, the ones who gouge, the ones who dont care about others... they will be the problem. I think we need to shut our border to American citizens/residents, any canadian coming across the border has to be tested and isolated... simple as that. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 17, 2020 16:24:45 GMT -5
I certainly wasn't thinking, old friend ... Dis, nothing there. You posted just before i did and there was no direction just because of posting order. I took a political shot too but rethought the unintended direction. Moving on.... This virus is fsr worse then 9-11. Then, it was simply a single or even multiple acts that were more noise then total war on our health and economy. This is far short of the great wars....as long as this virus doesn't mutate to a ten percenter...or worse. Watching the oil plummet is good for those who have to drive to work every day, but it's also an indicator as to just how bad things are right now and how bad they could get ... the station down the road from us is at 78.9/ltr and I can see it dropping more ... like I was saying, I won't cite how things are going for us, personally, but I've already talked with Mrs. Dis about going back to work ... it makes it easier when I have a company asking me to put a resume in, but we'll see ... all the best, man ... Cheers. |
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Post by folatre on Mar 17, 2020 16:54:34 GMT -5
For the last couple of years, I have averaged about 180 days at the traditional office and 50 days working from home, so I feel okay in that regard, though with kids running around the house the situation seems destined to be chaotic at times.
I feel worried for family back in Chile because one million people use the Metro each morning in Santiago, and businesses and schools are not yet in shut down mode so people are not self-isolating.
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Post by HFTO on Mar 17, 2020 20:49:31 GMT -5
Surprisingly not....Only thing I can think of is that the Habs abysmal season has made me shut down mentality again!! ...but given everyone’s circumstances I’m more worried these days about friends and family hope everyone we know and in the Habsrus community and their extended family remain well and continues to be so ....as far as our Habs I’m at a loss if the current management is kept in place ...I can not believe how apathetic I have become over that past 3 years despite watching breathing every game ...aside from not participating here everyday ...it just seems mute to keep re hashing the same old complaints
Give us a clear strategy build a team of kids I can watch and get excited about ...then I and many will get reengaged
Be safe be well ....cling to a 24 team playoff ...lol
HFTO
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 17, 2020 22:02:41 GMT -5
... as of 2 minutes ago ...
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It will be phone calls only for a while.
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