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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 20, 2021 21:59:01 GMT -5
I'd like to know when things got normal for your guys. We were always in masks, but normalcy started coming back once most of the city was (then) fully vaccinated ... we're still adhering to social distancing, but other than those two minor inconveniences, there were very few, if any, restrictions to you if you had both of your shots ... our indoor/outdoor limitations have fluctuated with the onset of Omicron ... if you haven't been fully vaccinated, then you weren't/aren't permitted to dine inside a restaurant (patios are fine), attend a cinema, etc ... restaurants were back to full capacity, but have now reverted to half capacity, because of the high tally of positive cases ... as has already been mentioned, the vaccines we have had, provide little-to-no protection against Omicron, so boosters are now much in demand ... the city just got told tonight that the shipment of Pfizer boosters that was supposed to arrive today, has been delayed ... people will now receive the Moderna vaccine in lieu of Pfizer ... what I like from that scenario is how quickly the city was able to secure a supply of Moderna, on such short notice ... I also liked the drive-thru concept the city implemented yesterday when giving out the boosters ... as with their mass testing earlier in the pandemic, they used a local college parking lot and organized a drive-thru setup, where you didn't have to get out of your car ... yesterday, the goal was to administer 5,000 jabs in one day, and they did it ... many people waited 3 hours or more to get the booster, but they got it done ... pretty sure we'll see that process again ... we're still getting creamed by Omicron, and more restrictions are in place, but I feel good about the city's response ... Cheers. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Dec 21, 2021 13:58:27 GMT -5
I dont think Ottawa setup drive to through booster location but my wife and I are scheduled for the 29th...
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Post by jkr on Dec 21, 2021 18:57:32 GMT -5
My wife is considered essential so she just had her shot.
I live about 80K north west of Toronto in a large region. Last summer I drove about a half hour to get my second shot but with winter here I am staying close to home. Earliest I could get was January 19th.
Going to keep looking at places like pharmacies to see if I can bump up that date.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 21, 2021 23:46:42 GMT -5
I dont think Ottawa setup drive to through booster location but my wife and I are scheduled for the 29th... The city just completed another drive-thru today, and they were able to administer ~ 10,000 jabs in just two days ... they have another one scheduled for sometime this week, and another planned for Boxing Day ... I just read that you guys got clobbered today ... 325 new cases for Ottawa ... not looking forward to the local numbers after the holiday season ... it's a bad time of the year to be telling people to stay home ... combine that with people being 'completely fed up' with the virus controlling their lives, and methinks the tally will be substantially higher by Jan 1st ... feeling for the people of Montreal, as well ... they're getting creamed right now ... Cheers. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Dec 22, 2021 9:43:23 GMT -5
I dont think Ottawa setup drive to through booster location but my wife and I are scheduled for the 29th... The city just completed another drive-thru today, and they were able to administer ~ 10,000 jabs in just two days ... they have another one scheduled for sometime this week, and another planned for Boxing Day ... I just read that you guys got clobbered today ... 325 new cases for Ottawa ... not looking forward to the local numbers after the holiday season ... it's a bad time of the year to be telling people to stay home ... combine that with people being 'completely fed up' with the virus controlling their lives, and methinks the tally will be substantially higher by Jan 1st ... feeling for the people of Montreal, as well ... they're getting creamed right now ... Cheers. Social media is the issue, you see people in the US, Australia and elsewhere out having fun and you think WTF? Are these politicians all about control... |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 22, 2021 19:56:37 GMT -5
The city just completed another drive-thru today, and they were able to administer ~ 10,000 jabs in just two days ... they have another one scheduled for sometime this week, and another planned for Boxing Day ... I just read that you guys got clobbered today ... 325 new cases for Ottawa ... not looking forward to the local numbers after the holiday season ... it's a bad time of the year to be telling people to stay home ... combine that with people being 'completely fed up' with the virus controlling their lives, and methinks the tally will be substantially higher by Jan 1st ... feeling for the people of Montreal, as well ... they're getting creamed right now ... Cheers. Social media is the issue, you see people in the US, Australia and elsewhere out having fun and you think WTF? Are these politicians all about control... What we're seeing in the US is a crime ... their media has hurt their country more than any politician has ... the networks are all about profits, and their approach to reporting the news reflects that ... the more controversy, the better, because people will drop what they're doing to check it out ... news has become more about clicks and eyeballs (viewership) and, controversies and conspiracies check both those boxes ... the US, as a country, is now listed as a backsliding democracy, and they have their media, and their politics to blame for that ... Australia is considered a "Nanny State" ... this was a few months ago, but Sydney reimposed working from home with only 25/26 cases ... that's for a city with the population of 5.3 million ... my best friend lives there, and I'll be talking to him over the weekend ... we'll see what's what over there ... as far as Omicron goes, maybe if we'd paid more attention to what was going on overseas (EU), we might have had a booster program in place in September or early October ... as it is now, while I like the response my city has taken, I really think we dropped the ball at the federal level ... I see the Liberals have raised CERB ... that probably makes a lot of recipients happy, but I'm not convinced it was necessary ... the timing makes me think it's more of a federal Christmas gift, but that's just me ... Cheers. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Dec 22, 2021 23:16:30 GMT -5
My wife has been advertising for a couple of positions at the office she manages and she has had zero responses
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Post by Cranky on Dec 23, 2021 3:37:05 GMT -5
My wife has been advertising for a couple of positions at the office she manages and she has had zero responses I was talking about my usual massive rib steak buy with the manager of a grocery chain. He needs 3 butchers immediately at $23 for starting apprentice. I would only accept the job if I could keep 10% of what I cut.  |
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Post by CentreHice on Dec 23, 2021 8:51:59 GMT -5
I see the Liberals have raised CERB ... that probably makes a lot of recipients happy, but I'm not convinced it was necessary ... the timing makes me think it's more of a federal Christmas gift, but that's just me ... Cheers. How much is a monthly CERB payment now? |
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Post by franko on Dec 23, 2021 9:04:20 GMT -5
I see the Liberals have raised CERB ... that probably makes a lot of recipients happy, but I'm not convinced it was necessary ... the timing makes me think it's more of a federal Christmas gift, but that's just me ... Cheers. How much is a monthly CERB payment now? $300, a pittance. there are some that need it. |
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Post by CentreHice on Dec 23, 2021 10:25:12 GMT -5
Of course. I remember at the outset it was $2000/month...and I thought it had gone up from there.
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Post by Willie Dog on Dec 23, 2021 11:02:09 GMT -5
My wife has been advertising for a couple of positions at the office she manages and she has had zero responses I was talking about my usual massive rib steak buy with the manager of a grocery chain. He needs 3 butchers immediately at $23 for starting apprentice. I would only accept the job if I could keep 10% of what I cut. I would do that as well |
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Post by Willie Dog on Dec 23, 2021 11:07:09 GMT -5
How much is a monthly CERB payment now? $300, a pittance. there are some that need it. Canada worker lockdown benefit is $300 per week but only if your area us locked down Canada recovery sickness benefit give 500 per week up to 6 weeks if you have covid |
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Post by franko on Dec 23, 2021 11:33:37 GMT -5
Canada recovery sickness benefit give 500 per week up to 6 weeks if you have covid $450 (after taxes) isn't a lot (unless you are working part time). but I kinda don't get this one. you are supposed to isolate for 10 days but you can collect for 6 weeks. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Dec 23, 2021 15:24:19 GMT -5
Canada recovery sickness benefit give 500 per week up to 6 weeks if you have covid $450 (after taxes) isn't a lot (unless you are working part time). but I kinda don't get this one. you are supposed to isolate for 10 days but you can collect for 6 weeks. If you have a choice between working 40 hours per week making $14 an hour ($560 before tax, cpp, ei) or $450 to sit on your ass... what's the difference? |
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Post by Cranky on Dec 23, 2021 16:01:43 GMT -5
$450 (after taxes) isn't a lot (unless you are working part time). but I kinda don't get this one. you are supposed to isolate for 10 days but you can collect for 6 weeks. If you have a choice between working 40 hours per week making $14 an hour ($560 before tax, cpp, ei) or $450 to sit on your ass... what's the difference? NOBODY would rather sit on their butt then work for the same money. That would just be un-Canadian. Nope. Not us. Ama right? BTW.....I got this bridge in London....great price.... |
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Post by Cranky on Dec 27, 2021 18:42:25 GMT -5
If anyone is concerned about the delay in getting boosters in the GTA, let me know via pm.
It's not a top secret, just a process that also needs personal responsibility and no abuse. I trust our community but not who can read an open forum.
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Post by Tankdriver on Dec 31, 2021 17:28:53 GMT -5
So a question to those that have been following the numbers. Is the original covid 19 staring still out there? Or the Delta version? All I hear is the Omicron version.
Plus all I see on t.v. is 80k people in a football stadium or outside without masks, while up in Canada I am locked in my house, not allowed to go out past 10 pm or go to a restaurant or a friend's house. Is QC, or Canada over reacting, the US Deciding to move on and treat it like a regular cold, or because our medical system is so poor?
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Post by Cranky on Jan 1, 2022 15:45:03 GMT -5
So a question to those that have been following the numbers. Is the original covid 19 staring still out there? Or the Delta version? All I hear is the Omicron version. Plus all I see on t.v. is 80k people in a football stadium or outside without masks, while up in Canada I am locked in my house, not allowed to go out past 10 pm or go to a restaurant or a friend's house. Is QC, or Canada over reacting, the US Deciding to move on and treat it like a regular cold, or because our medical system is so poor? Omicron cases mean very little other then pushing fear porn, but Delta is still out there and so are the anti-vaxxers. The anti-vaxxers were 80% of the cases and probably still are. We have to wait for data. As for US vs Canada, the CBC is completely out of control and selling fear porn like nobodies business. CTV is right behind them. Reality appears to be that the vast majority who are vaxxed and get Omicron feel at worse, a bad cold. We have to see the numbers on exactly how many Omicron hospitalised or ICU. I suspect those will be the most elderly and rare under 60. In Canada, there is a LOT of deliberate obfuscation by the "authorities" and i suspect it's more about protecting the medical system, their God adjacent powers and reputation then caring if you don't see your family or live your life. To them it seems that they rather keep 100,000 in lockdown then one case in the ICU. Then can spew the fear rhetoric but they can't hide the numbers. Within a few weeks we shall see how "deadly" Omicron is. I just hope they don't play footsie and mix in Delta with Omicron to justify all these lockdowns. I'm really keeping an eye on that because you know what they say about stats and fabricating an outcome. If they really pouched it with lockdowns, this is the end of their social liscence to play lockdown Gods. Let's see the numbers... |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 2, 2022 9:44:10 GMT -5
My friend around the corner got the omicron and it was flu like for her and she had the booster
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Post by Cranky on Jan 2, 2022 16:45:46 GMT -5
Absolutely IGNORE the putrid, crappy garbage media and it's panic. And factlessbook and twettydom. Here is a link to reality. You know, that unsexy thing called SCIENCE... covid19-sciencetable.ca/ontario-dashboard/Read the amount that is now caused by Omicron. Read who is at risk. I know it's not as sexy as those doom and gloom headline$ but they are facts. Meanwhile our policies will be shaped by that garbage media....so expect more restrictions. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 4, 2022 11:12:08 GMT -5
Well, Omicron is in the family now ... Mrs Dis's brother, this son, and his son's wife, all came down with it ... in each case, it never amounted to anything more than the sniffles, and a bit of a temperature ... Dis Jr's wife also tested positive, which meant we had to get tested too ... she's still displaying symptoms, so she has to isolate until those symptoms subside ... in each case, everyone was fully vaccinated, so if it's only the sniffles and a slight fever, then I'd like to think the vaccines are working ... as for us, we both tested negative, and that's our second time being tested since the pandemic broke ... as for Kingston, the virus is sweeping through the city like a brush fire ... their testing process is very well set up, and we were in/out of there in about 15 minutes ... as I was saying earlier, the city also made it easy for people to get their boosters ... the last of the 'drive thru' inoculation setups is happening sometime this week, and they were able to administer tens-of-thousands of jabs where you didn't even have to get out of your car ... as for the pandemic, itself, I remember the city resembling a something out of a movie when our first lockdown occurred about 2 years ago ... everything was closed, and city looked totally devoid of life ... that was with 'maybe' 20 cases ... right now, there's no lockdown in effect, and we've soared past 2,000 active cases ... the streets aren't deserted, as they were two years ago, and there are plenty of cars on the road ... that said, the rules have changed, too ... if test positive now, you'll have to self-isolate for 5 days in lieu of the 10-day period required before ... there is also no requirement for a follow-up test ... anyway, we're not out of it yet, but there is light at the end of the tunnel ... it's still a pretty long tunnel, though ...
Cheers.
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Post by Cranky on Jan 4, 2022 16:10:31 GMT -5
Dis, Glad everybody is ok. The good news is that just as predicted, it's not a killer. The bad news is, just as predictable the garbage human trash that passes as media $old fear porn and now we have lockdowns. These mean squat and will do squat against this virus but politicians don't want to be attacked by the fear porn media industry so we get restrictions and lockdowns. Another big lie is Ontario hospitilizations and ICU on covid. If someone breaks a leg or has a heart attack and comes in, if he has Omicron it's now "covid hospitalization". Pure steaming pile of bullcrap. It's feeding the ignorants anti-vaxxers and fear porn industry with terrible stats and narrative. This lie is probably the hospitals way of getting more funding from the province. This is a horrible way to control the dollar narrative by creating a crisis where there is none. Worse, now we have delays AGAIN to important surgeries and procedures which can hurt or even kill people. These lies have deadly consequences. But of course, nobody is going to jail over them. Another victim to this lie is that it's taken the pressure off the unvaxxed. THEY are still feeding the virus and severe consequences which take up our medical resources, but now by spreading this garbage narrative that even the vaxxed are getting hospitalized, they are skating away from their responsibility. It's really sad that the truth, which we need now more then ever is fear porn pawn to these people. BTW...Here is an article with what I'm talking about... www.google.ca/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/local/toronto/2021/12/29/1_5722699.html |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 5, 2022 0:12:53 GMT -5
Dis, Glad everybody is ok. Thanks, mate ... it all came within 72 hours of each other ... relatives are in Sudbury and Penetanguishene, while the daughter-in-law is a 10-minute drive away ... Omicron hits people in different ways, but it does come as advertised, you're right ... our hospital ICUs are maxed out, and we just had another outbreak at the Kingston General Hospital (KGH), of all places ... hospitalizations are mostly the Delta variant ... still, the city doesn't seem to be losing any momentum ... that may change a bit now that restaurants are take-out only, gyms close, etc ... and, I dare say, there may be a few more small businesses going under ... This is how you win elections ... tell people what's wrong, make them afraid of it, then tell them who is to blame for it ... We experienced this firsthand ... delays in surgeries are unacceptable ... Keeping the story going generates revenues ... there's an 'info-demic' out there, where misinformation is used to instill fear and doubt ... we have friends who just left for South Carolina, and we've heard from them already ... they were surprised to see people wearing masks, and adhering to social distancing ... even with the majority of people adhering to recommendations and doing things right, the media would rather focus on anti-vaxxers, as if they're victims ... it's hard to bring people back once they start believing that, and the media knows that, too ... Cheers. |
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Post by Cranky on Jan 5, 2022 0:59:46 GMT -5
My wife insisted on watching the CBC for ten minutes. Wall to wall fear porn. Right now, I'm not sure i will wake up to civilization as we know it. Possibly covid mutants are next. (I'm considering a divorce with cause.)
GARBAGE MEDIA.
What I suggest is to stock up on necessary items like eggs, bread and milk. No, there won't be a made in CBC apocalypse but there is a very high possibility of disruptions. Omicron is spreading rapidly and will be for at least 3 weeks.
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Post by Polarice on Jan 7, 2022 7:14:04 GMT -5
My wife insisted on watching the CBC for ten minutes. Wall to wall fear porn. Right now, I'm not sure i will wake up to civilization as we know it. Possibly covid mutants are next. (I'm considering a divorce with cause.) GARBAGE MEDIA. What I suggest is to stock up on necessary items like eggs, bread and milk. No, there won't be a made in CBC apocalypse but there is a very high possibility of disruptions. Omicron is spreading rapidly and will be for at least 3 weeks. You should watch or listen to Joe Rogan interview Dr. Robert Malone. Dr. Malone invented the mRNA technology that is being used in the experimental COVID vaccines. Youtube and Twitter took down most of the videos because it is explaining all the issues with the Vaccine etc. Pretty interesting interview, it's a bit long, around 3 hours. |
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Post by Andrew on Jan 7, 2022 17:47:44 GMT -5
My wife insisted on watching the CBC for ten minutes. Wall to wall fear porn. Right now, I'm not sure i will wake up to civilization as we know it. Possibly covid mutants are next. (I'm considering a divorce with cause.) GARBAGE MEDIA. What I suggest is to stock up on necessary items like eggs, bread and milk. No, there won't be a made in CBC apocalypse but there is a very high possibility of disruptions. Omicron is spreading rapidly and will be for at least 3 weeks. You should watch or listen to Joe Rogan interview Dr. Robert Malone. Dr. Malone invented the mRNA technology that is being used in the experimental COVID vaccines. Youtube and Twitter took down most of the videos because it is explaining all the issues with the Vaccine etc. Pretty interesting interview, it's a bit long, around 3 hours. Here's a much shorter watch, calling into question or debunking many of the claims made by Dr. Malone on Rogan's podcast. www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjszVOfG_wo&t=630s&ab_channel=DebunktheFunkwithDr.Wilson |
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Post by Cranky on Jan 7, 2022 21:12:33 GMT -5
In another board, internet fist fights have broken out over Rogan and company. Let's not do that here.
For the record, I do NOT care or read twitter, no-factbook or obviously the extra special garbage media. If I post something, it's based on my opinion derived from Lancet or American Journal of Medicine studies. I use them to make decisions for my family and I share them. That's it.
Example.....I was not going to get the booster until I had proof it's necessary. I went through two massive Israeli studies (1.8 million people) submitted to the above journals and came to the conclusion that it was necessary for us based on our age. I also passed along my opinion on the subject. Note, it's an opinion and nothing more.
So let's not hash out who said what were and who is more trustworthy. Ultimately it's YOUR decision and YOU need to do what makes you safer. You and your doctor.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 9, 2022 10:13:50 GMT -5
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Post by PTH on Jan 10, 2022 1:34:55 GMT -5
The French one died out and Deltacron seems to have been a lab screwup. Omicron is going to be bad enough on its own, though. And we now know vaccines aren't going to be the hoped for complete solution |
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