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Post by Tankdriver on Feb 14, 2022 12:50:37 GMT -5
To Calgary For Emil Heineman, 1st round pick and a 2024 5th round pick and Tyler Pitlick
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 14, 2022 12:54:12 GMT -5
Lots of assets. All of the Pitlicks now.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 14, 2022 13:01:22 GMT -5
Heineman was part of the deal that moved Bennett to FLA. A high energy fast two way forward. Played on the WJC team in 2021 and plays in the SHL. An interesting second tier prospect.
With Pitlick (signed) and Heineman (unsigned), the team is currently at 48 contracts. I know that won’t be an issue for long as there will be guys moving out.
Oh, and I am a fan of another 2022 first round pick. There is very good depth in the second round of this upcoming first round despite all the narrative that this is a “weak draft”. I say baloney.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 14, 2022 13:06:02 GMT -5
Some details of the return if Calgary protects their top ten pick this year (very unlikely given they are pushing for the playoffs).
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Post by Andrew on Feb 14, 2022 13:12:58 GMT -5
Some details of the return if Calgary protects their top ten pick this year (very unlikely given they are pushing for the playoffs). So there's a non-zero chance that the 1st from Calgary lands us Bedard, so I like it. Hear me out. The wheels fall off this year and Calgary needs to use the top 10 protection, leaving us with their unprotected 2023 pick. The Flames follow up with a nightmare 2022-23 season and win the draft lottery for us. Ok, I'll stop now. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 14, 2022 13:18:41 GMT -5
Some details of the return if Calgary protects their top ten pick this year (very unlikely given they are pushing for the playoffs). So there's a non-zero chance that the 1st from Calgary lands us Bedard, so I like it. Hear me out. The wheels fall off this year and Calgary needs to use the top 10 protection, leaving us with their unprotected 2023 pick. The Flames follow up with a nightmare 2022-23 season and win the draft lottery for us. Ok, I'll stop now. I have even more reasons to cheer against Calgary now! 😆 It’s not just an Edmonton thing. |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 14, 2022 13:20:01 GMT -5
Decent return and it signals that a full blown tear down is in effect. While TT is a good guy and would be a good role model for the kids, his age works against him and as we see, the return is good. Im focused in the first rounder and Heineman. I like his progression from last year to this. From 7-6-13 in 43 to 11-5-16 in 36 games so far in the SHL, where points are at a premium. At 20 and 6-1, 185 lbs. good size too.
Mr Hughes did ok for his first trade. Wonder what Petry will bring?
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 14, 2022 13:20:13 GMT -5
Some Heineman highlights from recent SHL games. A bigger Lehkonen who can pot the odd goal? We can dream!
He was Florida’s pick at 43 in 2020. The Habs have his rights for two more years. Playing already in the SHL at age 20.
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Post by drkcloud on Feb 14, 2022 13:22:02 GMT -5
Sorry to see Toffoli go. Thought he might be part of future plans. Looks like this will be a full teardown and rebuild.
Seems like a decent return although I know nothing about Heineman.
And less scoring potential this year can only help us keeping the 1st overall this year
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 14, 2022 13:29:29 GMT -5
Oh, and Tyler Pitlick is a UFA at the end of the season. A salary cap move for the Flames but also a roster spot that the Habs can free up at the end of the season.
Three Pitlicks, eh!?
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 14, 2022 13:40:48 GMT -5
Some details of the return if Calgary protects their top ten pick this year (very unlikely given they are pushing for the playoffs). So there's a non-zero chance that the 1st from Calgary lands us Bedard, so I like it. Hear me out. The wheels fall off this year and Calgary needs to use the top 10 protection, leaving us with their unprotected 2023 pick. The Flames follow up with a nightmare 2022-23 season and win the draft lottery for us. Ok, I'll stop now. I like the way you think. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 14, 2022 14:08:46 GMT -5
Good luck in Calgary Tyler... liked you in a habs jersey, now I need to say goodbye to all of our D (except Romy) and some of our forwards Armia, Drouin, Hoffman, Paquette, Byron and bGal if possible
We now have 8.6 in cap space... time to use it
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Post by franko on Feb 14, 2022 14:23:57 GMT -5
I have even more reasons to cheer against Calgary now! 😆 It’s not just an Edmonton thing. oh we are going to have some interesting discussions in the days ahead!!! |
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Post by Habit on Feb 14, 2022 14:40:40 GMT -5
Oh, and Tyler Pitlick is a UFA at the end of the season. A salary cap move for the Flames but also a roster spot that the Habs can free up at the end of the season. Three Pitlicks, eh!? Yep, Tyler is cousins to Rem and his brother Rhett (Habs 5th round pick in 2019). Alas it's not the Stastny brothers  Maybe we can get both the Tuch's now? |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 14, 2022 14:44:19 GMT -5
I have even more reasons to cheer against Calgary now! 😆 It’s not just an Edmonton thing. oh we are going to have some interesting discussions in the days ahead!!! You will quickly adapt to the Edmonton mentality: ABC. Anybody but Calgary. |
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Post by jkr on Feb 14, 2022 14:55:26 GMT -5
oh we are going to have some interesting discussions in the days ahead!!! You will quickly adapt to the Edmonton mentality: ABC. Anybody but Calgary. For me it's Anybody but Toronto.  A bit surprised as Toffoli seemed ok with sticking around. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 14, 2022 15:03:24 GMT -5
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 14, 2022 15:27:33 GMT -5
Tyler has got class, I hope we can bring him back in 2 years... |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 14, 2022 16:01:39 GMT -5
Calgary currently has the third best win % in the Western conference. I am pretty sure the first is going to be a 2022 pick. We can still cheer for a total collapse though lol!
Good luck Toff. You wore the jersey with pride and stayed committed when others checked out. Class act and all the best in Cowtown.
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Post by franko on Feb 14, 2022 16:33:36 GMT -5
oh we are going to have some interesting discussions in the days ahead!!! You will quickly adapt to the Edmonton mentality: ABC. Anybody but Calgary. ya that ain't gonna happen. too much anti-E history. one of the good things about the new digs is it ain't Edmonton |
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Post by Cranky on Feb 14, 2022 16:50:50 GMT -5
We just got rid of our top 3 forward.
He wanted to sign with us, he wanted to play for the Habs, he took a lower contract by about a million to wear the CH.....he's gone.
CONGRATS!
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Post by habsask on Feb 14, 2022 17:01:50 GMT -5
We just got rid of our top 3 forward. He wanted to sign with us, he wanted to play for the Habs, he took a lower contract by about a million to wear the CH.....he's gone. CONGRATS! Yea, this signals a complete rebuild which is no surprise. Many comments saying the Habs didn't get enough in return. All will depend on Heineman (whom Hughes really wanted according to Lebrune) becoming a good top 6 forward and whether the extra 1st rounder pans out. So we won't know for a couple or more years. Hang in there HA. Cheers |
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Post by Boston_Habs on Feb 14, 2022 17:03:52 GMT -5
We just got rid of our top 3 forward. He wanted to sign with us, he wanted to play for the Habs, he took a lower contract by about a million to wear the CH.....he's gone. CONGRATS! He was the guy that most fans wanted to hang onto, but he's also the guy with the most trade value. I would have liked to keep him around as a much needed stabilizer/bridge but management must have felt that they needed to start accumulating assets. It could also mean that there isn't a very strong bid for a guy like Ben Chiarot. A few weeks ago the consensus was that he's worth a 1st round pick but I wouldn't be shocked if it's more like a 2nd. And they don't want to sell too low on a guy like Petry. So it's Toffoli for a good prospect (hopefully), a 1st, and some cheap filler. Nobody else on the Habs will fetch close to that. |
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Post by Skilly on Feb 14, 2022 17:27:53 GMT -5
Tyler has got class, I hope we can bring him back in 2 years... They really should have given him the C . He was the only one worthy of it |
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Post by HFTO on Feb 14, 2022 17:43:27 GMT -5
Don’t like they got rid of a guy who has For one a contract he out produces loves it here wanted to be here and from all accounts his wife did too. …get rid of the overpaid guys who don’t want to be here.
Can’t dismiss the return if they hit on the first and Hienemin keeps progressing.
Trading Tyffoli looks like it trending to a big breakdown guess we’ll see once all the dust settles and we see what they have left on the books and they if they spend it
Good luck to him…..a first round exit for Calgary is what I’ll be cheering for …lol
HFTO
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Post by seventeen on Feb 14, 2022 17:52:42 GMT -5
We just got rid of our top 3 forward. He wanted to sign with us, he wanted to play for the Habs, he took a lower contract by about a million to wear the CH.....he's gone. CONGRATS! He was the guy that most fans wanted to hang onto, but he's also the guy with the most trade value. I would have liked to keep him around as a much needed stabilizer/bridge but management must have felt that they needed to start accumulating assets. It could also mean that there isn't a very strong bid for a guy like Ben Chiarot. A few weeks ago the consensus was that he's worth a 1st round pick but I wouldn't be shocked if it's more like a 2nd. And they don't want to sell too low on a guy like Petry. So it's Toffoli for a good prospect (hopefully), a 1st, and some cheap filler. Nobody else on the Habs will fetch close to that. Petry might, if Habs retain, between 1 and 2 mil. An experienced RHD at $5mm a year is a bargain. And he’s under control for the next 3 years after this one (double edged sword). Gallagher won’t get as much, but Anderson would if they were willing to trade him. Anderson might get more. Another aspect of this trade is that some space was opened on RW. The team make up was skewed on the wing so now Caufield can move to Suzuki’s right, & Lehkonen can move up. Armia can be RW on the 4th line. |
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Post by Cranky on Feb 14, 2022 17:52:51 GMT -5
We just got rid of our top 3 forward. He wanted to sign with us, he wanted to play for the Habs, he took a lower contract by about a million to wear the CH.....he's gone. CONGRATS! Yea, this signals a complete rebuild which is no surprise. Many comments saying the Habs didn't get enough in return. All will depend on Heineman (whom Hughes really wanted according to Lebrune) becoming a good top 6 forward and whether the extra 1st rounder pans out. So we won't know for a couple or more years. Hang in there HA. Cheers I'm good but certainly not hanging in there on the pathetic versio it has become...and will be for a while. The real problem is the guy selling "darkness" and on extended vacation, not Toffoli who actually WANTED to be here. So the guy who is deeply hurting the team gets a pass and another who wants to be here gets shipped out. Congratulations to the new management... |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 14, 2022 18:14:31 GMT -5
Yea, this signals a complete rebuild which is no surprise. Many comments saying the Habs didn't get enough in return. All will depend on Heineman (whom Hughes really wanted according to Lebrune) becoming a good top 6 forward and whether the extra 1st rounder pans out. So we won't know for a couple or more years. Hang in there HA. Cheers I'm good but certainly not hanging in there on the pathetic versio it has become...and will be for a while. The real problem is the guy selling "darkness" and on extended vacation, not Toffoli who actually WANTED to be here. So the guy who is deeply hurting the team gets a pass and another who wants to be here gets shipped out. Congratulations to the new management... So if you were GM what would you do with Price? He's got a NMC and the new GM has no power thanks to burgerbrain and the ridiculous contract he gave him. Gorton and Hughes and all of us are stuck with Carey as long as he wants to be here and until he decides he wants to go... |
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Post by halihab on Feb 14, 2022 19:03:27 GMT -5
I'm good but certainly not hanging in there on the pathetic versio it has become...and will be for a while. The real problem is the guy selling "darkness" and on extended vacation, not Toffoli who actually WANTED to be here. So the guy who is deeply hurting the team gets a pass and another who wants to be here gets shipped out. Congratulations to the new management... So if you were GM what would you do with Price? He's got a NMC and the new GM has no power thanks to burgerbrain and the ridiculous contract he gave him. Gorton and Hughes and all of us are stuck with Carey as long as he wants to be here and until he decides he wants to go... Carey will want to go by the time summer comes around. The rebuild will be in FULL effect. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 14, 2022 19:12:22 GMT -5
So if you were GM what would you do with Price? He's got a NMC and the new GM has no power thanks to burgerbrain and the ridiculous contract he gave him. Gorton and Hughes and all of us are stuck with Carey as long as he wants to be here and until he decides he wants to go... Carey will want to go by the time summer comes around. The rebuild will be in FULL effect. I hope so, carey will need to come back like 2014 Price before any GM thinks of taking him. |
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