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Post by NWTHabsFan on May 27, 2022 11:21:27 GMT -5
So the semifinals are set. A few surprises like the USA shutting out the top seed and top scoring Swiss and Canada’s late, late comeback against the defensively stingy Swedes.
On Saturday, the two semi final matchups are:
FIN vs USA (Armia vs Farrell)
CAN vs CZE (Anderson)
The US brought Harris along with the team, but never activated him on the roster. He did get a pre tourney game in against Canada though. Instead, Hockey USA used up its final roster spots on adding forwards that were eliminated from the NHL playoffs. Now they have two defenders injured and are playing with only five healthy defencemen. Oops. Hindsight though.
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Post by seventeen on May 27, 2022 15:03:18 GMT -5
They have obviously never learned the cardinal rule, "You can never have enough defensemen". I can't help hoping they get another dman injured and the remaining 4 get fatigued and cause mistakes galore.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on May 28, 2022 0:07:14 GMT -5
They have obviously never learned the cardinal rule, "You can never have enough defensemen". I can't help hoping they get another dman injured and the remaining 4 get fatigued and cause mistakes galore. You have some seriously good voodoo mojo. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on May 28, 2022 9:22:51 GMT -5
Finland edges USA to advance to the gold medal game tomorrow. Farrell with a goal today and Armia with the GWG and an assist.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on May 28, 2022 13:14:42 GMT -5
Canada cruised to a 6-1 win over Czechia to earn a spot against host Finland in tomorrow’s gold medal game. Anderson did have an assist on Sillinger’s goal. Familiar foes in the gold medal game of late as this will be three in a row.
Czechia will play the USA and its four healthy defenders tomorrow for bronze.
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Post by seventeen on May 29, 2022 0:56:11 GMT -5
Czechia will play the USA and its four healthy defenders tomorrow for bronze. If only they had a healthy defender they could have added to their roster instead of a forward from an eliminated NHL team. |
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Post by Skilly on May 29, 2022 12:24:47 GMT -5
Big surprise to me. On paper Canada looked terrible in my opinion. The hockey gods shone down on them against SWE.
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Post by habsorbed on May 29, 2022 12:45:15 GMT -5
Anyone know where one can watch the Josh v Joel match without subscribing?
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Post by NWTHabsFan on May 29, 2022 13:22:11 GMT -5
Decent tournament for Sean Farrell. Combine his good Olympics and debut season with Harvard with over a point per game, and you have to think this season checked a lot of good boxes for Farrell.
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Post by jkr on May 29, 2022 14:10:33 GMT -5
Anyone know where one can watch the Josh v Joel match without subscribing? I'm watching on TSN |
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Post by jkr on May 29, 2022 14:12:37 GMT -5
Granlund ties it on a 5 on 3 & Driedger is hurt trying to reach it. The new goalie is someone I've never heard of from the Swedish league.
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Post by jkr on May 29, 2022 14:13:49 GMT -5
Granlund scored again on what was left of the PP . 2-1 Finland with 13 minutes to go.
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Post by Skilly on May 29, 2022 14:16:22 GMT -5
Granlund ties it on a 5 on 3 & Driedger is hurt trying to reach it. The new goalie is someone I've never heard of from the Swedish league. Finnish player high sticked himself and Canada gets a penalty to give them that 5 on 3. |
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Post by Skilly on May 29, 2022 14:38:43 GMT -5
I really don’t understand the review of Canada’s second goal …
The ref called it a good goal. If Finland asked for a review, then why weren’t they penalized for delay of game?
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Post by Skilly on May 29, 2022 14:39:10 GMT -5
And just like that it is 3-3
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Post by jkr on May 29, 2022 15:13:10 GMT -5
I thought Chris Lee was bad but he looks like a HOF official compared to these tools. Chabot hooked the guy, yes. But the guy grabbed Chabot on the way down but wasnt called.
The terrible calls turned the game around for Finland - 3 PP goals including the winner.
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Post by habsorbed on May 29, 2022 17:00:29 GMT -5
Anyone know where one can watch the Josh v Joel match without subscribing? I'm watching on TSN Tx JKR. Sort of figured we'd win this with Barzal, the best player in the tourney. He got 3 assists but couldn't quite carry the team. The biggest shocker for me is how unimpressive Chabot was/is. Sens fans must be a little nervous. |
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Post by folatre on May 29, 2022 17:44:33 GMT -5
It is certainly sad to see such shoddy reffing in a gold medal game.
After 2022-23, Chabot's contract starts getting very expensive in real dollars. So knowing how the Sens ownership rolls, I would imagine he could be traded in the not so distant future.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on May 29, 2022 19:27:29 GMT -5
Tx JKR. Sort of figured we'd win this with Barzal, the best player in the tourney. He got 3 assists but couldn't quite carry the team. The biggest shocker for me is how unimpressive Chabot was/is. Sens fans must be a little nervous. I feel the same way about Chabot. A very underwhelming competition for a supposed #1 defender. As for that reffing, it was bush league and a bad look for such an important game. |
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Post by Willie Dog on May 29, 2022 19:54:09 GMT -5
It is certainly sad to see such shoddy reffing in a gold medal game. After 2022-23, Chabot's contract starts getting very expensive in real dollars. So knowing how the Sens ownership rolls, I would imagine he could be traded in the not so distant future. 6 year @ 8 mill per... if he doesnt get any better what an anchor that will be... almost 10% of their cap |
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Post by folatre on May 29, 2022 20:36:37 GMT -5
For sure, the cap hit itself is significant, though I think with Chabot's age and offensive attributes there are plenty of teams who could live with it. My thought is that, given how revenue-weak Ottawa continues to be (with a subpar arena, small season ticket base, cheap tickets), those 2024-27 seasons where Chabot is paid $10 million USD per will likely give ownership pause.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 29, 2022 21:48:25 GMT -5
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Post by NWTHabsFan on May 30, 2022 10:42:45 GMT -5
Armia’s goal in the gold medal game. Hopefully he can carry some of the momentum from his good tournament into training camp in the fall. He definitely needs a much better season than last year, especially if HuGo has any plans to move him in the next season or so.
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Post by seventeen on May 30, 2022 12:09:31 GMT -5
I thought Chris Lee was bad but he looks like a HOF official compared to these tools. Chabot hooked the guy, yes. But the guy grabbed Chabot on the way down but wasnt called. The terrible calls turned the game around for Finland - 3 PP goals including the winner. I've mentioned this before, but this game seems to confirm the findings of a study done on NBA games years ago. The matter the study was checking was whether or not there was a home court advantage. The study found that there was, but it related to officiating. Home teams were getting the benefit of the doubt from officials. That is understandable, given the pressure referees are under and when all that pressure is in one direction only ("ref you suck"), it is only human to err in that direction. |
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Post by seventeen on May 30, 2022 12:19:42 GMT -5
Tx JKR. Sort of figured we'd win this with Barzal, the best player in the tourney. He got 3 assists but couldn't quite carry the team. The biggest shocker for me is how unimpressive Chabot was/is. Sens fans must be a little nervous. I feel the same way about Chabot. A very underwhelming competition for a supposed #1 defender. After these WC's, does anyone share my opinion that Josh Anderson should be traded? To be fair, I didn't see much of the games, but the parts I did see, he was completely useless. He fell a lot, he didn't win any board battles, and his assists seemed to be ones where he passed to a guy who made a great play all on his own and scored (Cole Sillinger's goal being an example). All this on an ice surface that is a bit bigger than the NHL size, which should have helped him given his speed. He finished with 8 points in 10 games on 1 goal and 7 helpers. I'd love to see all those helpers as two I can recall were exactly as I described above. He simply happened to have passed (remarkable all on its own) to a guy who scores, which any winger can do. |
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Post by Tankdriver on May 30, 2022 12:30:05 GMT -5
I feel the same way about Chabot. A very underwhelming competition for a supposed #1 defender. After these WC's, does anyone share my opinion that Josh Anderson should be traded? To be fair, I didn't see much of the games, but the parts I did see, he was completely useless. He fell a lot, he didn't win any board battles, and his assists seemed to be ones where he passed to a guy who made a great play all on his own and scored (Cole Sillinger's goal being an example). All this on an ice surface that is a bit bigger than the NHL size, which should have helped him given his speed. He finished with 8 points in 10 games on 1 goal and 7 helpers. I'd love to see all those helpers as two I can recall were exactly as I described above. He simply happened to have passed (remarkable all on its own) to a guy who scores, which any winger can do. Not necessarily looking to trade him but I wonder if him and the Calgary first plus something else could get the 2nd overall pick from N.J. |
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Post by seventeen on May 30, 2022 15:11:42 GMT -5
Interesting question. No doubt you'd have to add something to that package...and it would have to hurt a little. Gallagher, Drouin, or Petry aren't going to cut it. Gally and Petry have age and contract issues (Devils are also happy enough with their RHD's). Drouin's contract is ok but the compete level is questionable. I actually think he'll be pretty good for us this year, but he doesn't carry enough value yet.
Dvorak? I'm not sure how badly NJ needs a #3 centre, but he'd be a very viable option. Most of the guys listed as centres also played wing much of the time. Michael McLeod is definitely a centre and if he's your #3, you have a problem. He makes a fine 4th line centre. Dvorak would fit in well with NJ. He could move up if one of Hughes and Hischier suffered an injury (something that's happened often), and along with those two, if everyone is healthy, would make for a difficult match-up situation.
So...our 27th or whatever, Anderson and Dvorak for #2. Would we have to add something else...our #33? Getting an overall #2 pick is not cheap.
Are the Devils ready to start competing? They might be. They have some good kids (Hughes, Hischier, Sharangovich, Bratt and Mercer) but a lot of the supporting cast is in their prime years, so they might be willing to forego more futures, for talent right now. I'd offer them Anderson, Dvorak and Allen for their #2. We keep our #27. They need someone steady in goal and a better #3 centre. Anderson would give them more depth at wing. Dvorak and Allen have good contracts. If HuGo is torn between 2 guys, it might be worthwhile paying the price to get both. I'd also add the #33 if Fitzgerald wasn't quite ready to pull the trigger. Looking at New Jersey's roster, it's pretty good. There's quality there and they need a bit more talent and depth. Those 3 guys would give them that.
It doesn't help our line-up of course, but Montembeault and Primeau can share duties until a goalie either develops or falls into our laps. Ylonen can replace Anderson and Wright/Cooley can handle the centre spot, in due course if not immediately. There are various combinations at that 2 spot...Cooley, Slavkovsky, Jiricek/Nemec. It also ensures we're going to have another 'development year' so that we have a shot at Bedard or Michkov.
Ah, to doze, perchance to dream.
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Post by Tankdriver on May 30, 2022 19:23:09 GMT -5
Well it is a dream. It's just the Devils and the Sens are the only pucks in the top 8 that are rumored to be available for NHL ready talent.
I don't know if Dvorak, Anderson, Calgary pick, Mailloux? would be enough to get the 2nd and even if I want to do that for an unproven pick.
As a GM, I am tearing this down to the ground and tanking again this year while clearing up cap space in 2 years time. I don't think we need more picks, just some high end talent. My end goal would be to have no one older than Suzuki on the team by the 2024 or 2025 season. Maybe by then Dubois will be a free agent and we could add him or Scheiffle.
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Post by habsorbed on May 30, 2022 23:22:31 GMT -5
Too bad the WCs have concluded. Former Habs KK and Domi would have been able to join the tourney. Hard to believe how far these two have fallen. They had the fewest TOI of all the Canes forwards and their offensive production in the playoffs was pitiful.
Domi is a UFA and just finished getting $5.3 million. He'll be lucky to get more than $3 next year.
KK was a joke at $6 million this year and will be paid almost $5 for the next 8 years.
Anyone up for trolling the Canes?
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Post by Tankdriver on May 31, 2022 7:53:14 GMT -5
Domi will be fine. He'll be playing with the Leafs next year.
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